Top Republicans Propose Carbon Tax Plan To Stop Climate Change

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Top Republicans Propose Carbon Tax Plan To Stop Climate Change

There’s a new climate change prevention plan in town, and unbelievably, it’s coming from some rather senior Republicans, the de facto party of science denial.

Two former Secretaries of State – James Baker III and George Shultz – along with former Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson Jr., met with Vice President Mike Pence, Trump’s son-in-law Jared Kushner, Ivanka Trump and Gary Cohn, director of the National Economic Council this week in Washington D.C.

During the meeting, they proposed a carbon tax, describing it as a “conservative climate solution” grounded in free-market ideology.

In a transcript of the meeting sent to IFLScience, the three explain that, instead of going along with the beleaguered Environmental Protection Agency’s (EPA) greenhouse gas emission caps and focus on renewable energy, they favor a “gradually rising carbon tax,” where “100 percent of the proceeds would be given back to the American people in the form of dividends.”

“America could meet the commitments that it made in Paris without any other policies. That is how effective the power of a marketplace solution can be.

“223 million Americans stand to benefit financially from solving climate change,” they add.

Rather remarkably, Baker himself is a “moderate” denier of climate change. Although he accepts it is happening, he is entirely unconvinced of the overwhelming scientific evidence that links human activity to the phenomenon – and yet, he strongly supports a carbon tax.

It is, however, difficult to verify the efficacy of their plan and the reliability of the associated numbers that come along with it.

The point worth noting is that they are pitching the plan to combat climate change as an economic incentive. This is in fact something scientists and companies have already tried to do – they’ve repeatedly pitched increasingly cheap, job-creating renewable energy to Trump, framing it (accurately) as an economic boon.

Top Republicans Propose Carbon Tax Plan To Stop Climate Change | IFLScience
 

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"One cannot rule out significant global warming due to increasing greenhouse gases. Indeed, it is logically impossible to prove anything to be absolutely impossible. It nonetheless seems peculiar to base policy on something for which there appears to be no evidence".

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"The great tragedy of science-the slaying of a beautiful hypothesis by an ugly fact".
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Dear mentalfloss, Your delight in belittling those who disagree with you notwithstanding. Your inability or unwillingness to get beyond stage one and do more than scratch the surface of any topic you choose to opine on is truly astounding.

Were you less gullible and easily manipulated you would realize that it is you and your ever shrinking cadre of true believers plus third and fourth rate advocacy psuedoscientists who are the real science deniers. You see mentalfloss the "greenhouse gas idea while certainly convenient for the science denying set is a poor metaphor for what actually happens. Both it and the concept that increases in atmospheric CO2 concentrations cause temperatures to rise are still unproven hypotheses. The reality is that no one has ever been able to show with actual, duplicate-able, empirical and observational data that that is how it works. So....you're demanding that mitigation policies be imposed to correct a problem that is nothing more than a hypothesis. But wait, there's more! We currently have more than 1.6 million years of empirical observational data proving that rising CO2 levels in our atmosphere follow increases in temperature. For your brand of science to be correct you would have to believe that effect precedes cause.Surely you're not that addled.

"One cannot rule out significant global warming due to increasing greenhouse gases. Indeed, it is logically impossible to prove anything to be absolutely impossible. It nonetheless seems peculiar to base policy on something for which there appears to be no evidence".

MIT Atmospheric Physicist Richard Lindzen

And finally,

"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves but wiser people so full of doubts".

Bertrand Russell

One of the finest bits of reason I have seen here.
 

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Dear mentalfloss, Your delight in belittling those who disagree with you notwithstanding. Your inability or unwillingness to get beyond stage one and do more than scratch the surface of any topic you choose to opine on is truly astounding.

Were you less gullible and easily manipulated you would realize that it is you and your ever shrinking cadre of true believers plus third and fourth rate advocacy psuedoscientists who are the real science deniers. You see mentalfloss the "greenhouse gas idea while certainly convenient for the science denying set is a poor metaphor for what actually happens. Both it and the concept that increases in atmospheric CO2 concentrations cause temperatures to rise are still unproven hypotheses. The reality is that no one has ever been able to show with actual, duplicate-able, empirical and observational data that that is how it works. So....you're demanding that mitigation policies be imposed to correct a problem that is nothing more than a hypothesis. But wait, there's more! We currently have more than 1.6 million years of empirical observational data proving that rising CO2 levels in our atmosphere follow increases in temperature. For your brand of science to be correct you would have to believe that effect precedes cause.Surely you're not that addled.

"One cannot rule out significant global warming due to increasing greenhouse gases. Indeed, it is logically impossible to prove anything to be absolutely impossible. It nonetheless seems peculiar to base policy on something for which there appears to be no evidence".

MIT Atmospheric Physicist Richard Lindzen

And finally,

"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves but wiser people so full of doubts".

Bertrand Russell
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