Yes, Trump will have broad power to crack down on immigration

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So how big will Donald Trump's wall really be?

The wall along the southwest border with Mexico was one of the president-elect's signature campaign promises, as he railed against illegal immigration and vowed to seal the borders against criminals, terrorists and millions of people trying to enter the United States legally. Now, immigration experts are trying to figure out exactly how those policies will work in a Trump administration.

And so far, it looks like he will be able to follow through on many of his pledges — with or without help from Congress.

"Generally speaking, any president has wide discretion when it comes to enforcing our immigration laws because immigration touches on national sovereignty," said Stephen Yale-Loehr, a professor at Cornell Law School and author of a 21-volume treatise, Immigration Law and Procedure.

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Yes, Trump will have broad power to crack down on immigration



related riff raff stuff:

Mexico scrambles...

Sanctuary city showdown...

Border Agents Could Ignore Obama Directives...

CLAIM: 3 Million Votes in Presidential Election Cast by Illegals...
 
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Thank you for this new thread.

It verifies everything I have been saying about the cost not including the new wall........

They are already paying billions to gather up and deport 400,00 a year. I guess it all depends on if Trumps team is willing to hire more people to round them up, build more holding cells, hire more judges and other government workers to process them all.

But maybe they are willing to do that and spend all kinds of money while cutting taxes on the 1%.

At the end of the day, Trumps promised step up from the record Obama has set likely won't happen......

http://forums.canadiancontent.net/news/147575-who-his-her-right-mind.html
 
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round up?
he is just going to cut off the freebies
no free beer - no drunks, they all go home when the trough is empty...
like politicians do too
simple

no wire transfers of USD dough to mexico till they put up a wall like the one mexico is already building on their southern border...
also simple

geez, the predictive fear mongering is hilliaryious....
like the pre election polls were
lol
there already was a border closure by a president
it only took ten percent of the man power they have on staff now
who have all been told not to enforce the current border laws

if anyone thinks the check points in the "copyright enforcement zone" are about illegal immigrants
hah hah, lol
good luck with that

Since coming to office in 2009, Obama’s government has deported more than 2.5 million people—up 23% from the George W. Bush years. More shockingly, Obama is now on pace to deport more people than the sum of all 19 presidents who governed the United States from 1892-2000, according to government data.
http://fusion.net/story/252637/obam...other-president-now-hes-running-up-the-score/

"1986: One-time amnesty for illegal aliens

In 1986 I voted for the Simpson-Mazzoli immigration bill because we were told it would solve the problem of massive illegal immigration. In his diaries, President Ronald Reagan said he was going to sign the bill because we had to regain control of our borders. The Simpson-Mazzoli bill contained three promises:

The government would make a concerted effort to control the borders.
An effective employer verification program would ensure that only legal workers were hired.
One-time amnesty would be granted for people illegally in the United States.

All three promises were broken. The government has made no serious effort to control our borders.
Employers continue knowingly to hire illegal immigrants without any real fear of punishment.
http://www.ontheissues.org/celeb/Ronald_Reagan_Immigration.htm

1.4 million Obama amnesty applicants on deportation hit list...
...the programs are dead under a Trump administration and those who signed up "created a list of prime candidates for deportation with names, addresses, and an admission of illegal alien status."
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/1...cants-on-deportation-hit-list/article/2607171

bipartsan illegal immigration amnesty is a non partisan clusterfreak of an income and employee Tax and obamacare avoidance scheme, designed to decimate the american middle class, using weaponize refugees created by freetrade, that destroys other countries middle classes and poor as well.
 
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somebody's left....the lights off-^
please: start brain before engaging keyboard
 
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Agents Brace for Pre-Trump Border Surge
Border patrol union president predicts career-level supervisors will now resist Obama directives to stem rush

With Donald Trump’s presidency now only a matter of time instead of a hypothetical, border agents are bracing for a surge in illegal immigration at the southwest border as people race to get into the United States before the door shuts.

At the same time, according to the head of the union representing 16,5000 U.S. Customs and Border Protection agents, career-level managers of the agency are likely to push back against the directives of outgoing political appointees of President Obama.

“They have a new boss. They know it. They need to endear themselves to him.”
“You can expect to see CBP pushing back and holding those people,” said Brandon Judd, president of the National Border Patrol Council. “They’re going want to make it look like they’re in lockstep with [Trump] … We’re already seeing it now.”

Judd said the processing center at Nogales, Arizona, is set to open soon, and he added that he expects other processing centers to open, as well, in order to increase detention capacity.Agents Brace for Pre-Trump Border Surge | LifeZette

Cannuck said:
Yes, let's make it about me. I'm sure that's much easier for you than explaining your support of left-wing policies
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yes, we are talking about complete bs
so of course it is all about you dear...
now get your little butt back out there and get back to yelling at a building
let the grown ups talk

earn that craigslist minimum wage color revolution paycheck
 
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Andrew Jackson (March 15, 1767 – June 8, 1845) was an American soldier and statesman who served as the seventh President of the United States from 1829 to 1837 and is considered the founder of the Democratic Party.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Jackson

President Andrew Jackson's military command and almost certainly his life were saved thanks to the aid of 500 Cherokee allies at the Battle of Horseshoe Bend in 1814. Unbelievably, it was Jackson who authorized the Indian Removal Act of 1830 following the recommendation of President James Monroe in his final address to Congress in 1825. Jackson, as president, sanctioned an attitude that had persisted for many years among many white immigrants. Even Thomas Jefferson, who often cited the Great Law of Peace of the Iroquois Confederacy as the model for the U.S. Constitution, supported Indian Removal as early as 1802.

Under orders from President Jackson the U.S. Army began enforcement of the Removal Act. The Cherokee were rounded up in the summer of 1838 and loaded onto boats that traveled the Tennessee, Ohio, Mississippi and Arkansas Rivers into Indian Territory. Many were held in prison camps awaiting their fate.
A Brief History of the Trail of Tears

oh, so tromp is bad for wanting to enforce the law against illegals?
geeez...the lulz
 
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Machjo said:
Why's everyone so hell-bent on left and right? My own views are all over the spectrum.
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Because defining the world based on the seating arrangement in the 1798 French Assembly allows them to divide the world into us and them and get on with hating without the need to engage in thought.
 
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With respect to Immigration there are two things Trump will NOT do.

He will not build a Wall.. although he's likely to put up some fencing.
He will not deport 11 million Illegal Aliens in the country.. which would be catastrophic to the agricultural, building and hospitality industries.

Any circumspect analysis of the influx of illegals at the level they have been for the last 30 years shows it has 2 causes.

1. NAFTA, which destroyed rural Mexican agriculture and built the shanty towns of the Maquilladoras for millions of labourers, working for subsistence wages, without any job security or the ability to support their families on the U.S. border. That essentially drained off all potential of developing a nationally based industrial economy for Mexico, which could anchor their population.

2. The ideological wars against 'Communism; of Nixon, Reagan, G.H.W. Bush in Central and South American which killed hundreds of the thousands and displaced millions of others and left economic ruin in their wake.

Simply rescinding NAFTA and reorienting American Foreign Policy to national goals will do immeasurably more than a Wall could ever do.

There seems to be some kind of consensus developing for handling Illegal Immigrants. That will allow them the legal status similar to that of 'Guest Worker'.. without threat of deportation providing they obeyed the law... BUT importantly.. with NO clear path the Citizenship.

The only route to that would remain that of the Landed Immigrant.. which would could only be applied for by foreign residents. This system would not reward illegal immigrants at the expense of those who had followed the law and hadn't jumped the cue in entering the country.

You have to understand the the BIGGEST difference between Trump and that mediocre NeoCon dumbbell Ronald Reagan is that Trump is NOT a petty ideologue and intellectually inept. He is above all a Pragmatist.. and someone not interested in vindictive and futile action. (The same reason he won't prosecute Hillary Clinton)
 
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Machjo said:
Why's everyone so hell-bent on left and right? My own views are all over the spectrum.
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A lot of people either forget or just do not know that left wing policies were once right wing and vice versa. The republicans and democrats have swapped sides multiple times over the course of history. When Lincoln started the GOP it was the left-wing party for the working class and the democrats were for the rich elite. The labels can be very detrimental to any intelligent discourse as they are now taken as offensive. I am center-right on the political spectrum overall but have some views considered radical right and some considered leftist. In the end I don't care what they are pinned as I will always choose to support what benefits me in the way I believe best.
 
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Machjo said:
Why's everyone so hell-bent on left and right? My own views are all over the spectrum.
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Trump has very left-wing policies and the Trumpitess are having a difficult time trying to justify their support since most of them pretend to be conservative. It's either that or they are actually conservative and don't really care about economics they're just racist and misogynists
 
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