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Locutus

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Lol.

Now boys and girls, this goes beyond and is bigger than tinfoil or I toada so. Because really, we fukking told you and we're telling you again. We know, you know and quit dog-fukking the issue and just admit what it is. :smile:








Jason C. ‏@CounterMoonbat

Weird. Hillary had an off the record dinner w/ a bunch of journalists prior to her campaign launch to "frame the HRC message"

https://twitter.com/CounterMoonbat/status/786232817101467648






anyway...:lol:
 

Locutus

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one of the obvious comments was obvious but spot-on:


No one watches CNN anymore. It's like the punchline to a bad joke at this point.

I want Trump to be counted out by the media and their polls. I want the liberal scum to feel complaicent and assured...

I think you'll see a big surprise on November 8th.

 

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one of the obvious comments was obvious but spot-on:


No one watches CNN anymore. It's like the punchline to a bad joke at this point.

I want Trump to be counted out by the media and their polls. I want the liberal scum to feel complaicent and assured...

I think you'll see a big surprise on November 8th.

I haven't watched CNN since their Dr Gupta was caught re-handed as a shill for big pharma.

Nov 8 won't be a big surprise. America and the world is screwed no matter which one wins.


I oppose Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton for some of the same reasons:

I am a socialist and they are both part of the financial elite; they support the neo-liberal economic agenda; they have both supported radically pro-corporate trade policies (Trump acts as though he hasn't but he has for years), they both defend a capitalist, racist, imperialist nation that has, for generations supported dictators and undermined democracy and socialist efforts worldwide.

I think these are pretty good reasons to resist the US and its politicians. You don't have to be that radical to say politics in the US is demoralizing at best with few alternatives from the capitalist agenda that has been helping to destroy the environment, suppressed democracy, and enshrined poverty in the very system itself.

But even as a socialist, you don't have to be wildly pragmatic to make an important distinction between Trump and Clinton. They both have records of corruption.

Electing either Trump or Clinton as president will more or less continue the neo-liberal economic agenda, neither will do much for democracy, for poverty (at home or abroad), nor will they make the radical changes to environmental policy that are necessary. But as president, Trump will legitimize racism and misogyny through his beliefs and behavior.

While they will both continue the same kinds of capitalist agendas, Trump threatens to open up a floodgate of violence and hate against women and racialized people aka Roy Cohn.

But there is another factor here that should be talked about. Clinton may have a dubious record concerning certain aspects of corruption during her time as a public figure, but if you compare that record to, say, the last Republican presidency, she's a paragon of purity. George W. Bush and Dick Cheney orchestrated illegal wars that killed hundreds of thousands of people. Hundreds of millions of dollars (if not billions) went totally unaccounted for as wads of cash were reportedly given out to terrorist group as bribes to stop them from undertaking violence. And Bush and Cheney benefited personally from all this through their oil interests, and through corporations such as Halliburton and Blackwater.

To compare any contemporary US political corruption to what Bush and Cheney have been responsible for, de facto robs the very notion of corruption meaningless. If Trump supporters were interested in sending anyone to jail, they would never stop calling for the incarceration of Bush and Cheney, two men who destabilized the whole globe, made fortunes doing it, and, arguably, permanently undermined the status and legitimacy of the US as a democracy.

As a socialist with little or no faith in the political/economic system, it is understandable to be dubious about Clinton and Trump for the simple reason that they are both corrupt in various ways and they both represent the capitalist status quo. But if you believe in American capitalism and its supposed democracy, if you believe that, despite its blemishes, the US basically represents what is good in economics and human rights, then to portray Hillary Clinton as some kind of outlier of corruption is just hypocritical because as corruption and dubious behavior goes, is disingenuous.

I continue to believe that the angry, vociferous opposition to Clinton by many Americans is little more than simple sexism. A majority of Americans arte easily directed at the shiny thing and seem not interested in the issues which most affect them so to have candidates, or at least one starting the mudslinging make it's easy for them to not debate hard subjects as the infantile media is concentrating on the titillating drivel.

She is not an atypical Democratic nominee in policy matters or in her dubious record. But she is atypical in her qualifications, in as much as she is unquestionably along with Trump the most deplorable candidates to run for president in living memory.

But the distractions caused by Trump may not be by accident as neither candidate is talking about the issues and their resolutions, and the MSM is played right into their hands.........

Even as it continued to post new batches of emails from Clinton campaign chairman John Podesta, Wikileaks on Friday also published new draft chapters of the Trade in Services Agreement (TISA) which shed new light on the pending deal that critics say puts global economies at further risk from powerful banks, financial institutions, and corporate greed

Along with the TPP and the TTIP, TISA is actually the largest of the "Three Big T's" of pending international agreements that seek to further shape the global economic and legal systems in favor of major corporations and elite interests. TISA is the largest of the three deals, and according to World Bank figures cited by Wikileaks, services that would be covered by the massive agreement comprise around 75% of the EU economy, 80% of the US economy and the majority of economies of most countries.

However, notes Wikileaks, "despite its importance both the US Presidential candidates Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump have thus far given no position on the TISA Agreement."

oh yes, there's more...

Posting New Secret Trade Docs, Wikileaks Further Exposes Corporate Plot | Common Dreams | Breaking News & Views for the Progressive Community
 

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Not only that but the Republicans are proving just the opposite.

BTW, it's not just CNN. Cable news is on the decline. Most people under 70 don't care for it.

I rarely watch TV. Pretty much TVO Docs and South Park.......

In the few weeks after Canada declares war on Adolf Hitler's Third Reich, more than 60,000 Canadians volunteer to fight for King and Country. In the Battle of Britain 100 Canadian fighter pilots - including Robert Barton - play a key role against swarms of German fighters and bombers. Seaman Peter Cock takes us through the fight to save "Slow Convoy" SC-42, attacked by a wolf pack of German U-boats in the Battle of the Atlantic.

Passing the Torch: Canadians Go to War: 1939-1941 - Ep. 1 | TVo_Org
 

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Hillary is proving to be a good tactician.

Listen, Kreskin,buddy, you do remember the disagreement we had about the value of the present elected shjthead in the offal office why would you step in dung again to suggest that the Hillary a syndicated criminal has any good qualitys whatever. You should not be allowed to vote.
 

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he's a bungtriloquist
highlary is the warden

infowars beats CNN viewer wise
 

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CNN is still allowing people to shoot the supposed messenger and not the message. They are allowing these people to say that the Russians hacked Hillary's email. They generally go along with that claim, even though it hasn't been proven, and they ignore the e mails content.

I see Wolf, who is one of the lamest interviewers they have actually did some good yesterday but it will fall on deaf ears......


BLITZER: In one of the emails you called Bernie Sanders a "doofus," did you?

PODESTA: Well, I have great respect for Bernie Sanders, there was a moment where he opposed the Paris Deal... I was frustrated with him, but he and I have a very good relationship... and I have great affection for him, but I do think when he criticized the Paris agreement, I didn't think it was the right position.

BLITZER: I'll take that as a yes.

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CNN's Wolf Blitzer Grills John Podesta About Clinton Wall Street Speeches, Calling Sanders A "Doofus" | Video | RealClearPolitics