How U.S. gun ownership became a ‘right,’ and why it isn’t

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How U.S. gun ownership became a ‘right,’ and why it isn’t

"That,” we tell ourselves, “is just the way the Americans are.” We say it every time some firearms horror strikes a movie theatre or school or workplace. We say it when the U.S. President, reduced to tears, tries to use his limited powers to make minimal changes to laws that allow almost anyone to purchase and use an assault rifle.

After all, hasn’t it always been this way? Americans have always believed that they have a right to own and carry guns, we think. Strict gun control has never been an American option. That’s just the way they are.

Except that it isn’t. The American gun crisis, and the attitudes and laws that make it possible, are very new. The broad idea of a right to own firearms, along with the phenomenon of mass shootings, did not exist a generation ago; the legal basis for this right did not exist a decade ago.

Until 2002, every U.S. president and government had declared that the Constitution’s Second Amendment did not provide any individual right for ordinary citizens to own firearms. Rather, it meant what its text clearly states: that firearms shall be held by “the People” – a collective, not individual right – insofar as they are in the service of “a well-regulated militia.”

There had not, up to that point, been much ambiguity about this. “For 218 years,” legal scholar Michael Waldman writes in his book The Second Amendment: A Biography, “judges overwhelmingly concluded that the amendment authorized states to form militias, what we now call the National Guard,” and did not contain any individual right to own firearms.

The U.S. Supreme Court had never, until 2008, suggested even once that there was any such right. Warren Burger, the arch-conservative Supreme Court justice appointed by Richard Nixon, in an interview in 1991 described the then-new idea of an individual right to bear arms as “one of the greatest pieces of fraud, I repeat the word fraud, on the American public by special interest groups that I have ever seen in my lifetime.”

The individual right to bear arms is only a few years old, and based on nothing; its fall could be as quick as its rise. Once the Supreme Court has two more appointments by Democratic presidents, it will eventually provide a correct interpretation of the amendment, the interpretation Americans knew and respected for 217 years.

The attitude behind it will take longer to erase, but it too can fade. Americans who are horrified outnumber those who want weapons. This era will be remembered, in a generation, as one of those periodic explosions of irrationality in the United States, one with especially tragic results.

How U.S. gun ownership became a ‘right,’ and why it isn’t - The Globe and Mail
 

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The Second Amendment was based partially on the right to keep and bear arms in English common-law and was influenced by the English Bill of Rights of 1689. Sir William Blackstone described this right as an auxiliary right, supporting the natural rights of self-defense, resistance to oppression, and the civic duty to act in concert in defense of the state.


In United States v. Cruikshank (1876), the Supreme Court of the United States ruled that, "The right to bear arms is not granted by the Constitution; neither is it in any manner dependent upon that instrument for its existence.


In United States v. Miller (1939), the Supreme Court ruled that the federal government and the states could limit any weapon types not having a "reasonable relationship to the preservation or efficiency of a well regulated militia


218 years huh?
 

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The climate of fear is the prime factor here we see America as
the scared kittens of the globe. There was a time when the US
stood its ground and at the same time was willing to negotiate.
The real builders of the nation were progressives not conservatives.

 

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The climate of fear is the prime factor here we see America as
the scared kittens of the globe. There was a time when the US
stood its ground and at the same time was willing to negotiate.
The real builders of the nation were progressives not conservatives.

Any firearms on your farm grumpy ?
 

Liberalman

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gun makers should pay the victims and their families when one of their guns kill them and the government should put more tax on amunition and set up a victims fund
 

Walter

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gun makers should pay the victims and their families when one of their guns kill them and the government should put more tax on amunition and set up a victims fund
Cell-phone makers should pay the victims of car crashes caused by texters while they are driving.
 

CDNBear

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... along with the phenomenon of mass shootings, did not exist a generation ago; the legal basis for this right did not exist a decade ago.
Because a decade ago, people with mental illnesses had very few if any rights at all.

Until 2002, every U.S. president and government had declared that the Constitution’s Second Amendment did not provide any individual right for ordinary citizens to own firearms. Rather, it meant what its text clearly states: that firearms shall be held by “the People” – a collective, not individual right – insofar as they are in the service of “a well-regulated militia.”
And it took the US Supreme Court until 2015 to make Gay marriage legal in all 50 states.
 

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gun makers should pay the victims and their families when one of their guns kill them and the government should put more tax on amunition and set up a victims fund
And all auto manufacturers should have the same fund , we wouldn't need any insurance .
Maybe alcohol distillers should pay into the same fund as well .
 

CDNBear

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Sons, I see you lurking. You really should weigh in on this one.

I realise your understanding of constitutional law makes the author of the OP, and the author of the article look like preschoolers. But it would be very entertaining.

Brilliant. So any company that makes something that can potentially cause a death by some bonehead should have to pay into some sort of fund?
You do realise your sarcasm will be lost him. He's a Liberal.
 

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The U.S. Supreme Court had never, until 2008, suggested even once that there was any such right. Warren Burger, the arch-conservative Supreme Court justice appointed by Richard Nixon, in an interview in 1991 described the then-new idea of an individual right to bear arms as “one of the greatest pieces of fraud, I repeat the word fraud, on the American public by special interest groups that I have ever seen in my lifetime.”

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/glob...came-a-right-and-why-it-isnt/article28078752/
So, mentalfloss, do you agree that the Supreme Court's rulings about guns are invalid?

If so, how do you do that, and at the same time hold that the Supreme Court's rulings on racial discrimination and same-sex marriage are valid?
 

Walter

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So, mentalfloss, do you agree that the Supreme Court's rulings about guns are invalid?

If so, how do you do that, and at the same time hold that the Supreme Court's rulings on racial discrimination and same-sex marriage are valid?
SCOTUS is as imperfect as the rest of us, excluding me, of course.
 

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gun makers should pay the victims and their families when one of their guns kill them and the government should put more tax on amunition and set up a victims fund

Fuk you are an idiot. Think car makers should be fined every time a drunk driver kills someone as well?
FACT: NO gun of any kind has ever hopped off the shelf and killed a person or animal or even a sign without human help.