Thomas Sowell on tax and false promises

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A recent article in the New York Times says that raising the tax rate on the top one percent of income earners to 40 percent would generate “about $157 billion” a year in additional tax revenue for the government. This ignores mountains of evidence, going back for generations, showing that raising tax rates does not automatically mean raising tax revenues -- and has often actually led to falling tax revenues. When the state of Maryland raised its tax rate on people with incomes of a million dollars a year or more, the number of such people living in Maryland fell from nearly 8,000 to fewer than 6,000. Although it had been projected that the tax revenue collected from such people in Maryland would rise by $106 million, instead these revenues fell by $257 million.

There was a similar reaction in Oregon and in Britain. Rich people do not simply stand still to be sheared like sheep. They can either send their money somewhere else or they can leave themselves. Currently, there are trillions of dollars of American money creating jobs overseas, in places where tax rates are lower. It is easy to transfer money electronically from country to country. But it is not nearly so easy for unemployed American workers to transfer themselves to where the jobs have been driven by high tax rates.


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Sounds like a direct deposits will be made in Carribean rather than someplace within the borders of the US (or Canada). I posted a crooked Canadian Banking link a while ago that show the banks are already in business there anyway. There goes the 40% that was being collected so why not in the Canada as well?.
 

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Tax people and corps. too much and the tax revenues fall.
 

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We have had several threads on the subject and have conclusively proven that higher taxes during Clinton significantly raised revenues and improved the economy.

Having said that, we do not need to raise taxes as closing foreign tax shelter loopholes are a far better way to raise revenues and improve the economy.
 

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A recent article in the New York Times says that raising the tax rate on the top one percent of income earners to 40 percent would generate “about $157 billion” a year in additional tax revenue for the government. This ignores mountains of evidence, going back for generations, showing that raising tax rates does not automatically mean raising tax revenues -- and has often actually led to falling tax revenues. When the state of Maryland raised its tax rate on people with incomes of a million dollars a year or more, the number of such people living in Maryland fell from nearly 8,000 to fewer than 6,000. Although it had been projected that the tax revenue collected from such people in Maryland would rise by $106 million, instead these revenues fell by $257 million.

There was a similar reaction in Oregon and in Britain. Rich people do not simply stand still to be sheared like sheep. They can either send their money somewhere else or they can leave themselves. Currently, there are trillions of dollars of American money creating jobs overseas, in places where tax rates are lower. It is easy to transfer money electronically from country to country. But it is not nearly so easy for unemployed American workers to transfer themselves to where the jobs have been driven by high tax rates.


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Some folks just don't want to believe that cash is highly mobile... generally the Dipper/socialist kinda folks that sell the lies to the gullible

We have had several threads on the subject and have conclusively proven that higher taxes during Clinton significantly raised revenues and improved the economy.

Having said that, we do not need to raise taxes as closing foreign tax shelter loopholes are a far better way to raise revenues and improve the economy.

Might want to recognize that the economy was booming back then, If memory serves, the dot.com era had just begun and literally trillions entered the US economy (suitable to be taxed)... Since then, the likes of Haliburton, google and Apple have moved assets offshore to avoid the punitive Fed taxes
 

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Interesting that you mention Halliburton who moves its assets over seas while profiting from war. Veterans who sacrificed could sure use a few of the jobs that these companies are exporting while corporate executives are sitting back counting their blood money.
 

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The U.S. House of Representatives has passed five “tax extenders,” tax breaks for Big Business, that would increase the deficit by $518 billion over 10 years.


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The U.S. House of Representatives has passed five “tax extenders,” tax breaks for Big Business, that would increase the deficit by $518 billion over 10 years.


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Americans for Tax Fairness » Fact Sheet: Budget-Busting Tax “Extenders”

Read your link. These people are not about tax fairness but taxing what they consider the rich so as to provide more freebees for the freeloaders.
 

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Crony capitalism is as bad as socialism.
no such thing as crony capitalism, it's just capitalism.

crony capitalism was just a term invented by apologists trying to defend capitalism's failures.

capitalism has never been without government and business co-operating.
 

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no such thing as crony capitalism, it's just capitalism.

crony capitalism was just a term invented by apologists trying to defend capitalism's failures.

capitalism has never been without government and business co-operating.

You still haven't shown one single example of a communist or highly (and predominately) socialist system has succeeded.

.. Time to put up or shut up
 

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no such thing as crony capitalism, it's just capitalism.

crony capitalism was just a term invented by apologists trying to defend capitalism's failures.

capitalism has never been without government and business co-operating.
How much did Henry Ford get from government to start up ?
 

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what does getting started up have anything to do with collusion between businessman and government?

henry ford the antisemetic nazi sympathizer, lol
 

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what does getting started up have anything to do with collusion between businessman and government?

Taxes, the regulatory environment, licensing, fees, etc, etc.

You know, the absolute most basic questions that one needs to answer before you risk your time and money

henry ford the antisemetic nazi sympathizer, lol

Hilarious... If only it was Stalin or Pol Pot that had replaced Ford... What a wonderful world we would have today
 

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what does getting started up have anything to do with collusion between businessman and government?

henry ford the antisemetic nazi sympathizer, lol
The man who started the assembly line allowing ordinary working men to afford the automobile and usher out the horse and carriage .
Exactly what it will take for the average man to get behind any renewable energy scheme , affordability .
Government does nothing in an affordable manner .
 

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The man who started the assembly line allowing ordinary working men to afford the automobile and usher out the horse and carriage .
Exactly what it will take for the average man to get behind any renewable energy scheme , affordability .
Government does nothing in an affordable manner .
"the average man won't really do a day's work unless he is caught and cannot get out of it. There is plenty of work to do if people would do it." Henry Ford 1931

*fires 75,000 workers a couple weeks later and masturbates to his nazi germany flag hanging on his wall*
 

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"the average man won't really do a day's work unless he is caught and cannot get out of it. There is plenty of work to do if people would do it." Henry Ford 1931

*fires 75,000 workers a couple weeks later and masturbates to his nazi germany flag hanging on his wall*
Did you make the last part up ?
In the 1930's many in America and Canada looked at the transformation of Germany as a good thing .
Your hero JFK's father was a supporter of Hitler into the 2 world war .
Trying to equate 1930's political and emotional situation with the present time is a mugs game .
I am sure you have all the same morals and goals as your grandparents and great grandparents .