Venezuela. How could Obama allow such sins to go unpunished?

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Just before the holidays, Barack Obama signed a new law punishing Venezuela's leaders for human rights violations — for persecution and imprisonment of union leaders, journalists and protesters, and for a general disregard for the law.


"The United States," proclaimed the sanctions, "supports the people of Venezuela in their efforts to … advance representative democracy, human rights and the rule of law."


Also, the State Department says, Venezuela is far too cozy with terrorists, maintaining a "permissive environment" for, among other villains, agents of Iran and Hezbollah.


Now, at about the same time as Obama was sanctioning Venezuela's terrorist-coddling human rights violators, Loujain al Hathloul and Maysa al Hathmoudi were arrested at the border of Saudi Arabia, a close and loyal ally of the U.S. in its struggle against global terror.


Their crime was an act that's actually encouraged in Venezuela


The pair, both women, were whisked off to face the country's anti-terror court.


What punishment they might eventually receive is unclear, but given Saudi's reputation for torturing and scourging and beheading, suffice it to say you wouldn't want to be Loujain al Halthoul or Maysa al Hathmoudi right now.


Their crime? Driving. Or, to be precise: driving while female.


In Washington's view, Saudi Arabia is all that Venezuela is not. It disapproves of violent Islamists (or at least the ones in other countries). It's allowed to buy all sorts of advanced American weaponry. It's described as a "force for regional stability."


The advice of Saudi leaders is publicly cherished by American presidents: "I thought it was very important to come to the place where Islam began and to seek his majesty's counsel," Obama gushed during a 2009 visit.




The rest of the story......




New questions raised about U.S.-Saudi relationship. The 28 pages. U.S. legislators pushing to know more about alleged Saudi role in 9/11






New questions raised about U.S.-Saudi relationship - World - CBC News
 

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Is Obama supposed to be sticking his nose in Venezuela?

The question is why put sanctions on Venezuela then be buddy buddy with another country doing worse things to its people. Its inconsistent and makes no sense. Everyone knows what the answer is but that doesnt make it any less of a stupid policy.
 

Tecumsehsbones

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The question is why put sanctions on Venezuela then be buddy buddy with another country doing worse things to its people. Its inconsistent and makes no sense. Everyone knows what the answer is but that doesnt make it any less of a stupid policy.

Are you really unfamiliar with Realpolitik, or are you just playing the innocent to provoke a reaction?
 

Tecumsehsbones

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I am familiar with realpolitik which is why I put in "everyone knows what the answer is." Inconsistency still annoys me.
It's not inconsistency, it's being realistic about your capabilities.

The problem with your idea of consistency is that it leads to one of two conclusions:

1. We must always behave in a certain way, even if to do so would be counterproductive or even suicidal.

2. Since we can't solve all problems, we shouldn't try to solve any problems.
 

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Venezuela is like a rookie North Korea. They are so irrelevant and become very agitated when the world does not pay attention to them. Ever since Chavez kicked the bucket they have been shelved as a world player. And now with oil in abundance they have even less influence.
 

Tecumsehsbones

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Venezuela is like a rookie North Korea. They are so irrelevant and become very agitated when the world does not pay attention to them. Ever since Chavez kicked the bucket they have been shelved as a world player. And now with oil in abundance they have even less influence.

And Venezuela is important to. . . well. . . Venezuela.
 

WLDB

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Then what is the big deal then? If they'll do nothing it should not matter.

If they do nothing, whats the point in doing it in the first place?

You may be right. So the "consistent" answer would be "because sanctions sometimes do not work, we should never use them anywhere."

Sometimes, Id say often. Perhaps something else should be used. What, I have no idea.