Illegal immigrants to be eligible for Social Security, Medicare


Locutus
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Illegal immigrants who apply for work permits in the U.S. under President Obama’s new executive actions will be eligible for Social Security and Medicare, the White House says.

Under the sweeping actions, immigrants who are spared deportation could obtain work permits and a Social Security number, which would allow them to pay into the Social Security system through payroll taxes.

No such "lawfully present" immigrant, however, would be immediately entitled to the benefits because like all Social Security and Medicare recipients they would have to work 10 years to become eligible for retirement payments and health care. To remain qualified, either Congress or future administrations would have to extend Obama's actions so that those immigrants would still be considered lawfully present in the country.

None of the immigrants who would be spared deportation under Obama's executive actions would be able to receive federal assistance such as welfare or food stamps, or other income-based aid. They also would not be eligible to purchase health insurance in federal exchanges set up by the new health care law and they would not be able to apply for tax credits that would lower the cost of their health insurance.

Benefits for illegal immigrants steps into murky waters. The White House has said it will not grant federal assistance to the 5 million affected by Obama’s executive actions. The Obama administration first denied younger immigrants who entered the U.S. illegally as children access to health care exchanges and tax credits in 2012, especially disappointing immigrant advocates.

"They were specifically carved out of that, which is deeply unfortunate because it cuts directly against the spirit" of the health care law, said Avideh Moussavian, an attorney at the National Immigration Law Center. "They should have had the opportunity to buy health insurance just like anybody else."

Any immigrant who is lawfully present in the country with a Social Security number would be entitled to Social Security and Medicare upon retirement because they would have paid into the system, one official said.

Stephen Miller, a spokesman for Sen. Jeff Sessions of Alabama, a leading Republican opponent of Obama's executive actions, said making immigrants illegally in the U.S. eligible for Social Security and Medicare "is an attack on working families."

"The amnestied illegal immigrants are largely older, lower-wage and lower-skilled and will draw billions more in benefits than they will pay in," he said.

Those seeking benefits would have needed to work for at least 10 years and be of retirement age. Immigrants would also be eligible for survivor benefits if the deceased worker had worked for 10 years and disability insurance if they had worked 5-20 years.

A report by the White House Council of Economic Advisers this week concluded that Obama's executive actions would expand the U.S. tax base because about two-thirds of immigrants illegally working in the United States don't pay taxes.

But many immigrants currently working illegally still pay into the Social Security system because they have obtained an Individual Taxpayer Identification Number. Moussavian said the number has declined because the Internal Revenue Service has made it harder to apply for the identification number.

The Social Security Administration estimates that out of about 11 immigrants who either entered the U.S. illegally or have overstayed their visas slightly more than 3 million paid payroll taxes of about $6.5 billion in 2010, with their employers contributing another $6.5 billion.

"It's one of many reasons why they would want to come forward," Moussavian said. "Many immigrants have contributed enormously through payroll taxes and income taxes and they go to programs that they can't currently access."

The Associated Press contributed to this report


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Ludlow
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I'm remembering a lady name of Carman who worked at the same place I worked at probably close to 38 years ago more or less. One of the best workers I've ever seen. And Rosie her friend, she worked there too. Another lady who worked hard for her pay. They came here for a better life and I'm glad they found one. Hard workers,,,good people. They weren't a label or statistic to me. They were "Carman and Rosie".
 
B00Mer
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Quote: Originally Posted by LocutusView Post

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Yeah FoxNews loves to whip up Anti-Immigrant Hysteria the Idiots.

This from a channel that is primarily Irish decedents..

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How about the one million illegal British Immigrants in the USA, and the 60,000 Canadian illegal immigrants..

Maybe we should start deporting the 110,000 + illegal US immigrants mooching off our Canadian Health Care System and drinking our good beer.

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Go Home Yankee!!
 
BaalsTears
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How many illegal immigrants are there in Canada? How many illegal immigrants come to Canada each year? What is the impact of illegal immigration on the working people of Canada?
 
B00Mer
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How many illegal immigrants are there in Canada? How many illegal immigrants come to Canada each year? What is the impact of illegal immigration on the working people of Canada?

Do you're own research.. Google is your friend.

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JLM
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Quote: Originally Posted by BaalsTearsView Post

How many illegal immigrants are there in Canada? How many illegal immigrants come to Canada each year? What is the impact of illegal immigration on the working people of Canada?



Maybe their work ethic sets a good example! Also they create jobs for bureaucrats!
 
B00Mer
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Quote: Originally Posted by JLMView Post

Maybe their work ethic sets a good example! Also they create jobs for bureaucrats!

While breaking Canadian Laws.. send the illegal Yankees home..

 
JLM
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Quote: Originally Posted by B00MerView Post

While breaking Canadian Laws.. send the illegal Yankees home..




Is it their fault they are here in the first place?
 
BaalsTears
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Quote: Originally Posted by B00MerView Post

Do you're own research.. Google is your friend.

Canadians Are Divided on the Actual Effect of Immigration | Angus Reid Global (external - login to view)

Thanks for the article. I took your advice and used google. It seems that there aren't proportionately that many illegal immigrants in Canada.

California and Canada have roughly the same size populations. But California has something in the area of twenty times as many illegal aliens as does the whole of Canada. This being the case I wonder if any Canadians have experience in living with a large number of illegal aliens. My understanding of illegal immigration is empirical, not theoretical.

America's reservoir of human capital is diminishing. America needs human capital. But the illegal immigrants being attracted to the United States have very little human capital. Generally, they are ignorant, impoverished and unskilled. They have nothing to offer to America, but much to take from America.

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Maybe their work ethic sets a good example! Also they create jobs for bureaucrats!

Some illegal aliens are diligent in the performance of low skilled labor. Some illegal aliens are not diligent in the performance of low skilled labor. In either event illegal aliens depress the wages of low skilled American workers. That's not a good thing.

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While breaking Canadian Laws.. send the illegal Yankees home..
...

I agree.
 
B00Mer
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Quote: Originally Posted by JLMView Post

Is it their fault they are here in the first place?

Yes..

If somebody steals a car, whose fault is it?? Society? Take Personal Responsibility and quit blaming everyone else.. you come here to Canada and do not have a work permit you're breaking the law.. Deport the Yankee!!!
 
JLM
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There's a very simple way for Americans to deal with any illegal immigrants. Just tell them to be eligible for legal immigration status, they have to settle on the north slope of Alaska. I bet that would pare down the numbers considerably.

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Yes..

If somebody steals a car, whose fault is it?? Society? Take Personal Responsibility and quit blaming everyone else.. you come here to Canada and do not have a work permit you're breaking the law.. Deport the Yankee!!!


Why weren't they stopped at the border?
 
B00Mer
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Quote: Originally Posted by JLMView Post

Why weren't they stopped at the border?

Maybe they lied saying they were visiting and stayed.. ya think.. DUH!!



Yup, over 110,000 plus illegal US Citizens taking Canadian jobs.. talk about throwing rocks at a glass house when they cry about illegals in their country.. keep care of your own people breaking laws..

Quote: Originally Posted by JLMView Post

There's a very simple way for Americans to deal with any illegal immigrants. Just tell them to be eligible for legal immigration status, they have to settle on the north slope of Alaska. I bet that would pare down the numbers considerably.

OR, a bio-metric national ID card, and force workers verify citizenship with massive fines otherwise.

 
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