The latest Ferguson morons


Locutus
#1
Ferguson isn’t about black rage against cops. It’s white rage against progress.



When we look back on what happened in Ferguson, Mo. (external - login to view), during the summer of 2014, it will be easy to think of it as yet one more episode of black rage ignited by yet another police killing of an unarmed African American male. But that has it precisely backward. What we’ve actually seen is the latest outbreak of white rage. Sure, it is cloaked in the niceties of law and order, but it is rage nonetheless.

Protests and looting (external - login to view) naturally capture attention. But the real rage smolders in meetings where officials redraw precincts to dilute African American voting strength or seek to slash the government payrolls that have long served as sources of black employment. It goes virtually unnoticed, however, because white rage doesn’t have to take to the streets and face rubber bullets to be heard. Instead, white rage carries an aura of respectability and has access to the courts, police, legislatures and governors, who cast its efforts as noble, though they are actually driven by the most ignoble motivations.

White rage recurs in American history. It exploded after the Civil War, erupted again to undermine the Supreme Court’s Brown v. Board of Education decision and took on its latest incarnation with Barack Obama’s ascent to the White House. For every action of African American advancement, there’s a reaction, a backlash.


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Ferguson isn’t about black rage against cops. It’s white rage against progress. - The Washington Post (external - login to view)





oh, and here's another:



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damngrumpy
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The people who think they have it that bad would pee their pants if they
had to live in the conditions caught in the crossfire of madness in the
Middle east. There is white racism just below the surface anyone who
thinks other wise is living in a dreamworld It cuts both ways the black
community has become racist itself. Here is an example. Years ago
black artists couldn't get on white radio that all changed around 1960
Well today black radio has reemerged and they don't bother in many
cases to play white artists. That is ok both media outlets have gone
their separate ways by mutual consent they no long fit each others
format. The difference is white stations still play black artists but
increasingly black stations shun whites
 
SLM
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#3
Of course it's about black rage against cops. That rage is deeply ingrained and, let's be honest here, it is not completely without merit.

Having said that though, conspiracy b.s. like this.....

Quote: Originally Posted by LocutusView Post


Protests and looting (external - login to view) naturally capture attention. But the real rage smolders in meetings where officials redraw precincts to dilute African American voting strength or seek to slash the government payrolls that have long served as sources of black employment. It goes virtually unnoticed, however, because white rage doesn’t have to take to the streets and face rubber bullets to be heard. Instead, white rage carries an aura of respectability and has access to the courts, police, legislatures and governors, who cast its efforts as noble, though they are actually driven by the most ignoble motivations.

....doesn't help matters much.
 
Grievous
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#4
Ever been stopped for being white Locutus?


Doubt it, guys like you will never get it.


86% of vehicle stops were black drivers.


85% of people arrested are black.


92% are arrested for disorderly conduct.


Guess whites just know how to behave eh Loc?
 
IdRatherBeSkiing
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#5
Quote: Originally Posted by GrievousView Post

Ever been stopped for being white Locutus?


Doubt it, guys like you will never get it.


86% of vehicle stops were black drivers.


85% of people arrested are black.


92% are arrested for disorderly conduct.


Guess whites just know how to behave eh Loc?

Of the people stopped, what is the arrest percentage of whites vs blacks? For example if they stop 1000 black and 100 white (assuming the imbalance above) and they arrested 850 blacks and 85 whites, those percentages are roughly equal and would show as a vast majority are black. But it could also show they arrest 85% of the people they stop.

What is the percentage of black vs white in the area in question? If the area is 85% black, it assumes stops would be 85% black.
 
Tecumsehsbones
#6
Here's the data.

http://ago.mo.gov/VehicleStops/2013/reports/161.pdf

Roughly, Ferguson is 67% black. 86% of the traffic stops are on black drivers. Stops leading to searches are twice as frequent for black drivers. Despite the fact that 22% of stops of black drives lead to arrests, vs. 34% of stops of white drivers.
 
IdRatherBeSkiing
#7
Quote: Originally Posted by TecumsehsbonesView Post

Here's the data.

http://ago.mo.gov/VehicleStops/2013/reports/161.pdf

Roughly, Ferguson is 67% black. 86% of the traffic stops are on black drivers. Stops leading to searches are twice as frequent for black drivers. Despite the fact that 22% of stops of black drives lead to arrests, vs. 34% of stops of white drivers.

This data does support that the cops are choosing to stop black drivers more. I would expect ~67% of traffic stops to be black. The 86-67% are not leading to arrests but just extra stops.
 
Tecumsehsbones
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Quote: Originally Posted by IdRatherBeSkiingView Post

This data does support that the cops are choosing to stop black drivers more. I would expect ~67% of traffic stops to be black. The 86-67% are not leading to arrests but just extra stops.

Here's the trick. More than half of Ferguson's city budget is paid for by traffic fines and associated fees.

Probably makes it a lot clearer, enit?
 
IdRatherBeSkiing
#9
Quote: Originally Posted by TecumsehsbonesView Post

Here's the trick. More than half of Ferguson's city budget is paid for by traffic fines and associated fees.

Probably makes it a lot clearer, enit?

It's the same most places. But if the stops are random I would expect around 67% of them to be black. If it was 70 or 64, that is close enough. But 86% is way out of the ballpark. This tells me that they are more likely to pull over a black person. Now if the arrest percentages were equal, I would conclude that blacks are more likely to be speeding than whites and that would count for the distortion. Since this is not the case, I cannot make that assumption.
 
Tecumsehsbones
#10
Quote: Originally Posted by IdRatherBeSkiingView Post

It's the same most places. But if the stops are random I would expect around 67% of them to be black. If it was 70 or 64, that is close enough. But 86% is way out of the ballpark. This tells me that they are more likely to pull over a black person. Now if the arrest percentages were equal, I would conclude that blacks are more likely to be speeding than whites and that would count for the distortion. Since this is not the case, I cannot make that assumption.

Clarification. The arrests are for possession of contraband. The speeding part is just a ticket, an administrative matter, not an arrest. The arrests come from searches associated with the traffic stops.

So, it would not be utterly unreasonable to conclude that the cops are ensuring that blacks bear a disproportionate share of the city budget, whilst whites are more likely to be carrying contraband.

Serving and protecting.
 
Ludlow
No Party Affiliation
#11
When I was young I looked at the sky sometimes at night and it was all just black and white to me. A dark void with millions of sparks of white lights. Now that I've been looking at the pictures taken by the Hubble telescope of the Universe, I see that there are innumerable examples of activity, shapes and every color in the spectrum. Who knows what we'll get to see in the future. Something to look forward to.
 
IdRatherBeSkiing
#12
Quote: Originally Posted by TecumsehsbonesView Post

Clarification. The arrests are for possession of contraband. The speeding part is just a ticket, an administrative matter, not an arrest. The arrests come from searches associated with the traffic stops.

So, it would not be utterly unreasonable to conclude that the cops are ensuring that blacks bear a disproportionate share of the city budget, whilst whites are more likely to be carrying contraband.

Serving and protecting.


Thsnx for clarification. I had assumed a speeding ticket was an arrest. In that case, I have insufficient data to draw any conclusions.
 
Locutus
#13
geez, if the majority of the residents and drivers of the 'pre-planned' (for city coffers and all like that) are black, like wow man, what a revelation...and then, if those stops usually lead to pat-downs and/or vehicle checks, and, contraband is found because the blacks are carrying, oh well...too bad so sad...don't drive with drugs in your goddamn car or on your person...get a brian moran.

now if, let's say, only 10% of that idiot town was black and they were STILL getting the high majority of the attention on 'routine' traffic (money making, drug-speculation), well then, come talk to me.


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