E-cigarettes face restrictions as cities update smoking ordinances


Locutus
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Electronic cigarettes, touted as a smokeless alternative to regular cigarettes, are coming under increased scrutiny as cities and counties consider applying the same restrictions to e-cigarettes as to their tobacco counterparts.


At a workshop last week, the Rancho Cordova City Council was unanimous in directing staff members to treat e-cigarettes like regular cigarettes as they draft amendments to city code sections governing smoking.



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E-cigarettes face restrictions as cities update smoking ordinances - Our Region - The Sacramento Bee
 
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lone wolf
Free Thinker
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E-cigs are just as much a trigger to a born-again-non-smoker as the real thing
 
Liberalman
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#3
When are they going to ban car exhaust and factory smoke?
 
Locutus
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Quote: Originally Posted by LiberalmanView Post

When are they going to ban car exhaust and factory smoke?

They had to take care of VOC's first.
 
lone wolf
Free Thinker
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#5
Tell me that bus with the two-and-a-half inch tailpipe isn't going to mess with my breathing space....
 
Goober
Free Thinker
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#6
I started using an E Cigarette, has helped cut down my smoking of cigarettes.
50 to 10 chemicals in an E Cigarette or 4000 to 5000 chemicals in tobacco.
Pick your poison.
 
Locutus
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I want those too-much perfume/bodyspray douchebags banned too.
 
Liberalman
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Quote: Originally Posted by lone wolfView Post

Tell me that bus with the two-and-a-half inch tailpipe isn't going to mess with my breathing space....

Walking to the store is healthy unless you are on a main street where hundreds of cars pass by you producing a cloud of car exhaust that you are breathing in which cancels out the healthy walk
 
mentalfloss
#9
Cigarette companies are the obvious villain in this war.
 
darkbeaver
Republican
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#10
Nic is my dearest friend.
 
Sal
No Party Affiliation
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Quote: Originally Posted by LocutusView Post

I want those too-much perfume/bodyspray douchebags banned too.

fuking -A it's enough to choke ya to death
 
DaSleeper
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#12
Quote: Originally Posted by LocutusView Post

I want those too-much perfume/bodyspray douchebags banned too.

Yep....Sometimes at the grocery store or the mall some even manage to gag my aging and deteriorating olfactory nerves......
 
BornRuff
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Quote: Originally Posted by LiberalmanView Post

When are they going to ban car exhaust and factory smoke?

You can't release car exhaust or factory smoke in a restaurant or office either.

Quote: Originally Posted by LocutusView Post

Electronic cigarettes, touted as a smokeless alternative to regular cigarettes, are coming under increased scrutiny as cities and counties consider applying the same restrictions to e-cigarettes as to their tobacco counterparts.


At a workshop last week, the Rancho Cordova City Council was unanimous in directing staff members to treat e-cigarettes like regular cigarettes as they draft amendments to city code sections governing smoking.



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E-cigarettes face restrictions as cities update smoking ordinances - Our Region - The Sacramento Bee

If what they say is true, and the vapor does contain carcinogens and other chemicals, then why should they be treated differently than cigarettes? I totally respect your right to do what you want to your body, but I expect you to respect my right to the same thing as well.
 
lone wolf
Free Thinker
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Quote: Originally Posted by darkbeaverView Post

Nic is my dearest friend.

Been one of mine too.... I'm considering another dissolution of the friendship soon - now that the dog has managed to walk much weight from this frame. If it weren't for cheap smokes on rez....

There's excuse #657
 
Sal
No Party Affiliation
#15
I was a pack and a half a day gal.

Took Zyban for 3 weeks and never went back.

Still trying to convince myself that I was not one of the 1%ers that are not physically addicted.

I still miss it but hardly anyone in my world smokes any more. I was one of the final hold-outs.

I was all excited for a bit when the e-smokes appeared but thought it sounded too good to be true and of course it was.
 
55Mercury
#16
I demand a ban on farting and jail terms for repeat offenders!
 
DaSleeper
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Quote: Originally Posted by SalView Post

I was a pack and a half a day gal.

Took Zyban for 3 weeks and never went back.

Still trying to convince myself that I was not one of the 1%ers that are not physically addicted.

I still miss it but hardly anyone in my world smokes any more. I was one of the final hold-outs.

I was all excited for a bit when the e-smokes appeared but thought it sounded too good to be true and of course it was.

If you quit that fast, you probably are one of those that had a physical habit, not an addiction.......
I'm an ex-smoker myself, but what I can't stand are the ex-smokers that are like religious converts and want to "force" everyone else to stop.
If there are a couple of smokers on the street, I will not make a detour to avoid them, or look down at them.....While a direct whiff of smoke might actually make me cough, I'm not adverse to the distant odour, that sometimes brings back pleasant memories of a leisurely smoke by a campfire while hunting in the fall..................
 
Goober
Free Thinker
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Quote: Originally Posted by DaSleeperView Post

If you quit that fast, you probably are one of those that had a physical habit, not an addiction.......
I'm an ex-smoker myself, but what I can't stand are the ex-smokers that are like religious converts and want to "force" everyone else to stop.
If there are a couple of smokers on the street, I will not make a detour to avoid them, or look down at them.....While a direct whiff of smoke might actually make me cough, I'm not adverse to the distant odour, that sometimes brings back pleasant memories of a leisurely smoke by a campfire while hunting in the fall..................

I have tried everything. Reason I am trying the e cigs.
 
Sal
No Party Affiliation
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Quote: Originally Posted by DaSleeperView Post

If you quit that fast, you probably are one of those that had a physical habit, not an addiction.......

I think it is true that I was one of the small percentage not physically addicted...it was easy for me to quit a pack and a half a day habit

yes I was a die hard, I never even seriously considered quitting, ever. Had zero intention. My doctor was super late one day so while I was waiting for him I was reading brochures on quitting smoking aids.

Out of curiosity when I went in I asked him which aid he would recommend for me. He actually laughed. "No aid other than drugs will help you. Your type of addiction is equivalent to a heroin addict." Then he whipped out a script pad and wrote me a perscription. I remember filling it and thinking hm, let's try these things just for a lark.

I used the drugs for a week while smoking and then quit. I took the pills for two weeks after but they were escalating my anxiety to a point where I thought I couldn't breathe. Actually later when friends quit not using the drug they went through a period of time where they thought they couldn't breathe too so I don't know if it was actually the pills .

A year later on my quit anniversary I shared a puff of my girlfriends but I didn't like it any more.

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I'm an ex-smoker myself, but what I can't stand are the ex-smokers that are like religious converts and want to "force" everyone else to stop.

yeah born again non smokers
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If there are a couple of smokers on the street, I will not make a detour to avoid them, or look down at them.....While a direct whiff of smoke might actually make me cough, I'm not adverse to the distant odour, that sometimes brings back pleasant memories of a leisurely smoke by a campfire while hunting in the fall.................

oh for sure, I loooove the smell of people smoking when passing them by in the street. I don't like the stink of stale tobacco smoke on clothing though. That is wicked.

I was kind of hoping the electronic would pan out and be given the green light.
 
grumpydigger
#20
Pretty soon they'll try to ban someone holding a pen or pencil in their mouth because it is a cigarette substitute.

More laws more rules
 
Sal
No Party Affiliation
#21
do they even make candy cigarettes any more...probably not huh?

 
Goober
Free Thinker
#22
Quote: Originally Posted by SalView Post

do they even make candy cigarettes any more...probably not huh?

I would say yes- They could lead to kids smoking -Fk me. Just like paying certain games that children play are bad emotionally.
 
Sal
No Party Affiliation
#23
Quote: Originally Posted by GooberView Post

I would say yes- They could lead to kids smoking -Fk me. Just like paying certain games that children play are bad emotionally.

for a while they banned smoking from movies and tv shows but.....theeeeeeeeeere back folks.

there was an anti-smoking commercial that always made me light up...I think it was for gum, they show a person outside by themselves taking a deep drag on a cigarette while the rest all popped gum...it always made me think; yup time for a cigarette
 
DaSleeper
#24
Quote: Originally Posted by grumpydiggerView Post

Pretty soon they'll try to ban someone holding a pen or pencil in their mouth because it is a cigarette substitute.

More laws more rules

They already ban pointing your finger and c*cking your thumb in school...so your point is not so far fetched....
 
Tecumsehsbones
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Quote: Originally Posted by DaSleeperView Post

They already ban pointing your finger and c*cking your thumb in school...so your point is not so far fetched....

Well, that's only fair, seeing as how they banned fingering your point and thumbing your c*ck years ago.
 
lone wolf
Free Thinker
#26
Pointing with two fingers used to be called non-threatening. Now it's an Auto

Quote: Originally Posted by 55MercuryView Post

I demand a ban on farting and jail terms for repeat offenders!

'ere now.... Holding it in results in methane explosion.

Good fart is good thing - especially that first one vertical when butt says "good morning" to body
 
#juan
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+1
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Quote: Originally Posted by SalView Post

I was a pack and a half a day gal.

Took Zyban for 3 weeks and never went back.

Still trying to convince myself that I was not one of the 1%ers that are not physically addicted.

I still miss it but hardly anyone in my world smokes any more. I was one of the final hold-outs.

I was all excited for a bit when the e-smokes appeared but thought it sounded too good to be true and of course it was.

So was I. I never took Zyban but quit about 30 times.....Once I quit for almost two months........I went out for a drink with some friends, at least half of whom smoked.......... After a few beers I thought.......one won't hurt........I was back to over a pack a day very quickly.
I finally quit for good about thirty years ago. I quit cold turkey.......I think I wanted to quit. Never started again.
 
DaSleeper
#28
Quote: Originally Posted by TecumsehsbonesView Post

Well, that's only fair, seeing as how they banned fingering your point and thumbing your c*ck years ago.

How about you pulling my finger would be banned too....
 
Sal
No Party Affiliation
#29
Quote: Originally Posted by #juanView Post

So was I. I never took Zyban but quit about 30 times.....Once I quit for almost two months........I went out for a drink with some friends, at least half of whom smoked.......... After a few beers I thought.......one won't hurt........I was back to over a pack a day very quickly.
I finally quit for good about thirty years ago. I quit cold turkey.......I think I wanted to quit. Never started again.

I believed I was a lifer and had no intention of trying to quit. No one was more surprised than I. My friends who still smoked back then were shocked because I was the "heavy" compared to them.

If I could have smoked the way they did (six to 8 a day) I likely would never have quit but my habit just kept increasing. I would smoke from the time I got out of the shower in the morning until I went to bed at night. If I woke up, I got up for a cigarette.

I was also shocked at how fast my lungs pinked up. Apparently though they are larger than they should be. That may cause problems down the road.
 

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