Unbe-effing-lievable.

Walter
+2
#1
‘Hypocrisy Much?!’: What Leaders of N.C. Rally Against Stricter Voter I.D. Laws Tell Marchers to Carry Just Might Make Your Head Explode | TheBlaze.com (external - login to view)
 
Kreskin
#2
Is that a run-on question, Walter?
 
DaSleeper
#3
Quote: Originally Posted by KreskinView Post

Is that a run-on question, Walter?

Just a trick question for Liberals
 
EagleSmack
#4
Quote: Originally Posted by KreskinView Post

Is that a run-on question, Walter?



Geez... that is actually the headline in the article!
 
L Gilbert
No Party Affiliation
+2
#5
Seems that what the protesters are protesting is the bigotry involved in the laws, from what I can understand. I dunno, maybe I am wrong.

Quote: Originally Posted by EagleSmackView Post

Geez... that is actually the headline in the article!

Yeah. Comical huh? I can imagine someone with the accent speaking that headline. lol
 
DaSleeper
#6
Our voter ID laws are bigoted?
 
L Gilbert
No Party Affiliation
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#7  Top Rated Post
Geeeez, Sleepy. We're talking North Carolina here, not Canada.
 
relic
Free Thinker
+1
#8
Meby, but we're going in that direction. Have you not seen steves new election laws ?
 
EagleSmack
#9
Quote: Originally Posted by DaSleeperView Post

Our voter ID laws are bigoted?


They would be here.

Quote: Originally Posted by L GilbertView Post

Geeeez, Sleepy. We're talking North Carolina here, not Canada.


But you need an ID to vote don't you?
 
Walter
#10
More on the OP.

Anti-Voter ID March Requires Participants Bring Photo ID; Most Media Outlets Omit Hypocrisy | NewsBusters (external - login to view)
 
DaSleeper
#11
Quote: Originally Posted by L GilbertView Post

Geeeez, Sleepy. We're talking North Carolina here, not Canada.

OK It's bigoted in North Carolina, but not in Canada.....
 
Dixie Cup
Libertarian
+1
#12
Um yeah - I had to show ID when I voted both federally and city to prove that I lived in the area. What's wrong with that?

And my ID was matched with the voters list.
 
lone wolf
Free Thinker
+2
#13
I'd be absolutely pizzed if I showed up at the polling place only to find my name already stroked off the list - but then with voter turn-outs being the way they are, vote-fixers have around a 40% chance of picking a no-show
 
Cannuck
No Party Affiliation
#14
Quote: Originally Posted by EagleSmackView Post

But you need an ID to vote don't you?

I didn't the last time I voted.

Personally I think there are far too many things that make the nutter's heads explode. We should look at doing something about that.
 
EagleSmack
#15
Quote: Originally Posted by CannuckView Post

I didn't the last time I voted.

Personally I think there are far too many things that might the nutters heads explode. We should look at doing something about that.

In Canada you don't need an ID to vote?

Elections Canada Online | Voter Identification at the Polls (external - login to view)

 
petros
#16
Quote: Originally Posted by EagleSmackView Post

In Canada you don't need an ID to vote?

Elections Canada Online | Voter Identification at the Polls (external - login to view)

A utility bill with name and address will do or a friend can vouch for you.
 
EagleSmack
+1
#17
Quote: Originally Posted by petrosView Post

A utility bill with name and address will do or a friend can vouch for you.

Yes... Options 2 and 3 in Canada's Voter ID Law.

Those are considered racist down here. I do not think they are... but opponents to any sort of voter ID or confirmation law will tell you so.

Canada does the right thing. Good for you guys.
 
BornRuff
#18
Quote: Originally Posted by EagleSmackView Post

Yes... Options 2 and 3 in Canada's Voter ID Law.

Those are considered racist down here. I do not think they are... but opponents to any sort of voter ID or confirmation law will tell you so.

Canada does the right thing. Good for you guys.

The problem with the debate is that it is really purely a political move. Only one party is really keen on it because most of the people that it would disenfranchise vote for their rivals.
 
El Barto
+3
#19
After the last referendum in Quebec all elections needed ID
Many dead voters were separatist apperently
 
BornRuff
+1
#20
Quote: Originally Posted by WalterView Post

‘Hypocrisy Much?!’: What Leaders of N.C. Rally Against Stricter Voter I.D. Laws Tell Marchers to Carry Just Might Make Your Head Explode | TheBlaze.com (external - login to view)

It is kind of funny, but realistically it is in no way the same thing.

The organizers are not checking people's IDs before allowing them to participate. It is a "do" because if police decide to get involved they can demand your ID, and if you don't have it, then it can become a problem.
 
EagleSmack
#21
Quote: Originally Posted by BornRuffView Post

The problem with the debate is that it is really purely a political move. Only one party is really keen on it because most of the people that it would disenfranchise vote for their rivals.

How and who does it disenfranchise?

If it does disenfranchise people... is that what it does in Canada?

Quote: Originally Posted by BornRuffView Post


The organizers are not checking people's IDs before allowing them to participate. It is a "do" because if police decide to get involved they can demand your ID, and if you don't have it, then it can become a problem.

LMAO. You CAN'T be serious!

What a joke that statement is.

Do you want me to FILL this thread with clips of people refusing to give cops their ID?
Last edited by EagleSmack; Feb 14th, 2014 at 02:16 PM..
 
BornRuff
#22
Quote: Originally Posted by EagleSmackView Post

How and who does it disenfranchise?

If it does disenfranchise people... is that what it does in Canada?

It disproportionately impacts poorer people, minorities, and the elderly.

With essentially no evidence that voter fraud is an issue, you have to wonder why so many republicans are intent on pushing for stricter ID laws.

Canada currently has quite liberal I.D. requirements, where a utility bill can be used or a person with ID can vouch for you. The Cons are trying to tighten that up here too though.

Quote: Originally Posted by EagleSmackView Post

LMAO. You CAN'T be serious!

What a joke that statement is.

Do you want me to FILL this thread with clips of people refusing to give cops their ID?

In how many of those videos does it cause a problem when they refuse to show their ID?

Most US states have laws that allow police to actually arrest you if you don't provide ID when asked. In other states, they still have the power to make your life very hard if you don't comply. So in the interest of a peaceful and non confrontational protest, it is just easier to be ready to comply if need be.
 
EagleSmack
#23
Quote: Originally Posted by BornRuffView Post

It disproportionately impacts poorer people, minorities, and the elderly.

So that is a big problem in Canada? The government of Canada is deliberately disenfranchising the poor, minorities, and the elderly by having a voter ID law?

Quote:

With essentially no evidence that voter fraud is an issue, you have to wonder why so many republicans are intent on pushing for stricter ID laws.

Voter fraud is an issue.

I could fill this slot up as well...

www.politifact.com/texas/stat...ctions-and-gu/ (external - login to view)


Quote:

Canada currently has quite liberal I.D. requirements, where a utility bill can be used or a person with ID can vouch for you. The Cons are trying to tighten that up here too though.

We don't even have that law. It is considered racist to have to ID yourself when voting in the US.



Quote:

In how many of those videos does it cause a problem when they refuse to show their ID?

Almost every one! Cops do not like being told they do not need to see an ID simply because they want to. The cops get POed!



Quote:

Most US states have laws that allow police to actually arrest you if you don't provide ID when asked. In other states, they still have the power to make your life very hard if you don't comply. So in the interest of a peaceful and non confrontational protest, it is just easier to be ready to comply if need be.

They checked IDs to make sure they knew who was participating. They want to make sure everyone is identified. They didn't want any spies.

It is laughable to think it was because the police want to check.

Either way it was hypocritical to require IDs to protest against having to show an ID while voting.
 
Nuggler
+1
#24
Helmethead says: " If you are nott brekking za law, you haff nozing to feer"
 
EagleSmack
#25
Nothing makes me laugh more than seeing this...

"Can I see an ID?"

"Am I under arrest?"

"No"

"Can I go?"

"I'm trying to find out who you are!"

"Am I being detained?"

lmao... it goes on and on.
 
petros
#26
There is an app for that.
 
Nuggler
#27
Quote: Originally Posted by EagleSmackView Post

Nothing makes me laugh more than seeing this...

"Can I see an ID?"

"Am I under arrest?"

"No"

"Can I go?"

"I'm trying to find out who you are!"

"Am I being detained?"

lmao... it goes on and on.




Yep, saw a few of those on Youtube. In one the officers lean into the car once the citizen is ousted and one says to the other; "that SOB knows his rights" - then sees the citizens camera and knocks it over. Too funny.


I don't have any problem handing the cops my ID, but I do hesitate when they ask "where you coming from ?" Never had the guts to tellem to fuk off though.
 
EagleSmack
#28
Quote: Originally Posted by NugglerView Post

Yep, saw a few of those on Youtube. In one the officers lean into the car once the citizen is ousted and one says to the other; "that SOB knows his rights" - then sees the citizens camera and knocks it over. Too funny.

They're great.

Here is a long one but it is a compilation so the first few will give you an idea. Border Patrol Checkpoint Refusals

quotNo Thanksquot Best DHS Checkpoint Refusals EVER - YouTube






Quote:

I don't have any problem handing the cops my ID, but I do hesitate when they ask "where you coming from ?" Never had the guts to tellem to fuk off though.

I'm with you!
 
BornRuff
#29
Quote: Originally Posted by EagleSmackView Post

So that is a big problem in Canada? The government of Canada is deliberately disenfranchising the poor, minorities, and the elderly by having a voter ID law?

The new rules that the government is trying to pass to make it harder for people to vote certainly do effect these groups more than other people.

Quote: Originally Posted by EagleSmackView Post

Voter fraud is an issue.

I could fill this slot up as well...

Voter fraud occurs in Texas, though convictions and guilty pleas are rare | PolitiFact Texas (external - login to view)

That article proves my point. In a state of over 25 million people, there were 18 cases of voter fraud over a 10 year period. A problem of that magnitude in no way justifies all of the political energy put into it.

Quote: Originally Posted by EagleSmackView Post

We don't even have that law. It is considered racist to have to ID yourself when voting in the US.

What?

Quote: Originally Posted by EagleSmackView Post

Almost every one! Cops do not like being told they do not need to see an ID simply because they want to. The cops get POed!

Exactly why if you want a peaceful protest it is easier to be prepared to fully comply with this sort of request.

Quote: Originally Posted by EagleSmackView Post

They checked IDs to make sure they knew who was participating. They want to make sure everyone is identified. They didn't want any spies.

It is laughable to think it was because the police want to check.

Either way it was hypocritical to require IDs to protest against having to show an ID while voting.

Can you find any source that says that the leaders of the march were actually checking people's ids before they could participate?
 
Cannuck
No Party Affiliation
#30
Quote: Originally Posted by EagleSmackView Post

In Canada you don't need an ID to vote?

I didn't provide one the last time I voted.

Quote: Originally Posted by BornRuffView Post

The organizers are not checking people's IDs before allowing them to participate. It is a "do" because if police decide to get involved they can demand your ID, and if you don't have it, then it can become a problem.

Yes, it's ironic maybe but definitely not hypocritical.
 

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