Colorado Weed

EagleSmack
petros
#2
That's not too bad. $500 an oz in Jew York City.
 
taxslave
No Party Affiliation
#3
The market will decide. It may be no where near where the retailers that are planing on making a bundle hope.
 
EagleSmack
+2
#4
I bet the border stores will do some good business.
 
tay
+2
#5
Those prices are a lot cheaper than they were for pot possession before it was legalized..............
 
taxslave
No Party Affiliation
+1
#6
Quote: Originally Posted by tayView Post

Those prices are a lot cheaper than they were for pot possession before it was legalized..............

So now the government is getting its cut via taxes instead of fines. Different bureaucracy doing the collecting is all.
 
tay
+2
#7
Quote: Originally Posted by taxslaveView Post

So now the government is getting its cut via taxes instead of fines. Different bureaucracy doing the collecting is all.







And the taxpayers aren't having to fund Police Depts chasing down pot smokers who create a backlog in the courts and jails.


It should also cut down on the criminal element causing chaos which results in less costs again to all of the above.


And the users don't get 'records' that keep them from obtaining employment, thereby keeping them off of Welfare type assistance.


Based on the failure of the war on drugs, whether by design or not, this seems to be the most logical step to try and stem the tide of excessive costs to the taxpayers.


And just like bootleggers or moonshiners in alcohol there will be some entrepreneurs selling the pot cheap but that can only harm the profitability of organized crime.........
 
55Mercury
#8
...and ...and...

a more peaceful populace!

Quote: Originally Posted by 55MercuryView Post

the silver lining here is they're legalizing pot. so as far as predictions go... not for this year maybe, but over the next decade I'd wager that legalizing pot will see a downward trend in these unfortunate gun incidents.

any takers? 5 bucks US - gentleman's bet. see you in ten years!

John Denver - Rocky Mountain High - YouTube


Colorado man fatally shoots stepdaughter mistaken for burglar

Then there's the added bonus of all the tourist dollars they'll be siphoning off of Amsterdam.

oh yeah...

HIPPY NEW YEAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
coldstream
+1 / -1
#9
They had a premature 'smoke in' in Denver last summer to celebrate the imminent legalization of cannabis. I saw a clip on it as a part of a program on the Nat Geo Channel of the developing marijuana industry in Colorado. It ended up in gang related gunfire as dazed, confused zombies ran from the park in terror. So much for the Age of Aquarius.

At least it takes the pure poppycock of 'medical' marijuana off the table.. and correctly labels it for just what it is.. a powerful culture based intoxicant.. nothing more.

I just don't think anything good is going to come from this. All of the knocks on mj are true. It causes apathy, anti-socialization, isolation, long term health issues associated with smoke inhalation. It takes people out of constructive lives and places them stoned in their parent's basement as life passes them by. Habitual long term use will lead to paranoia, extreme reclusiveness and ultimately psychosis.
Last edited by coldstream; Jan 2nd, 2014 at 02:36 PM..
 
mentalfloss
No Party Affiliation
#10
Quote: Originally Posted by 55MercuryView Post

...and ...and...

a more peaceful populace!




Colorado man fatally shoots stepdaughter mistaken for burglar

Then there's the added bonus of all the tourist dollars they'll be siphoning off of Amsterdam.

oh yeah...

HIPPY NEW YEAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It's the person, not the drug man..
 
skookumchuck
Free Thinker
#11
Quote: Originally Posted by mentalflossView Post

It's the person, not the drug man..

Also said about socialism and communism.
 
mentalfloss
No Party Affiliation
#12
Quote: Originally Posted by skookumchuckView Post

Also said about socialism and communism.

Which one is the person and which one the drug?
 
taxslave
No Party Affiliation
+1
#13
Quote: Originally Posted by tayView Post

And the taxpayers aren't having to fund Police Depts chasing down pot smokers who create a backlog in the courts and jails.


It should also cut down on the criminal element causing chaos which results in less costs again to all of the above.


And the users don't get 'records' that keep them from obtaining employment, thereby keeping them off of Welfare type assistance.


Based on the failure of the war on drugs, whether by design or not, this seems to be the most logical step to try and stem the tide of excessive costs to the taxpayers.


And just like bootleggers or moonshiners in alcohol there will be some entrepreneurs selling the pot cheap but that can only harm the profitability of organized crime.........

DOn't hold your breath waiting for a corresponding cut in police and court funding.
I forgot about the employment aspect because it isn't that much of a deal in Canada, especially in industry. There is the freedom to travel aspect. Anyone know if previous possession convictions will be overturned now? Or are these people fukked for life?
 
Cliffy
Free Thinker
#14
Quote: Originally Posted by taxslaveView Post

DOn't hold your breath waiting for a corresponding cut in police and court funding.
I forgot about the employment aspect because it isn't that much of a deal in Canada, especially in industry. There is the freedom to travel aspect. Anyone know if previous possession convictions will be overturned now? Or are these people fukked for life?

Fukked for life is probably grandfathered in.
 
ShintoMale
NDP
#15
it make it easier for people to identify and avoid pot heads
 
Sal
No Party Affiliation
#16
Quote: Originally Posted by coldstreamView Post

They had a premature 'smoke in' in Denver last summer to celebrate the imminent legalization of cannabis. I saw a clip on it as a part of a program on the Nat Geo Channel of the developing marijuana industry in Colorado. It ended up in gang related gunfire as dazed, confused zombies ran from the park in terror. So much for the Age of Aquarius.

At least it takes the pure poppycock of 'medical' marijuana off the table.. and correctly labels it for just what it is.. a powerful culture based intoxicant.. nothing more.

I just don't think anything good is going to come from this. All of the knocks on mj are true. It causes apathy, anti-socialization, isolation, long term health issues associated with smoke inhalation. It takes people out of constructive lives and places them stoned in their parent's basement as life passes them by. Habitual long term use will lead to paranoia, extreme reclusiveness and ultimately psychosis.

sooooooooooooo pretty much like alcohol then, the losers will lose and the moderate users will carry on as usual. So nothing will change except people won't be imprisoned for it.
 
taxslave
No Party Affiliation
+1
#17
Quote: Originally Posted by coldstreamView Post

They had a premature 'smoke in' in Denver last summer to celebrate the imminent legalization of cannabis. I saw a clip on it as a part of a program on the Nat Geo Channel of the developing marijuana industry in Colorado. It ended up in gang related gunfire as dazed, confused zombies ran from the park in terror. So much for the Age of Aquarius.

At least it takes the pure poppycock of 'medical' marijuana off the table.. and correctly labels it for just what it is.. a powerful culture based intoxicant.. nothing more.

I just don't think anything good is going to come from this. All of the knocks on mj are true. It causes apathy, anti-socialization, isolation, long term health issues associated with smoke inhalation. It takes people out of constructive lives and places them stoned in their parent's basement as life passes them by. Habitual long term use will lead to paranoia, extreme reclusiveness and ultimately psychosis.

SOmebody has been watching Reefer Madness again. ANd had e martinis too many.
 
EagleSmack
#18
Quote: Originally Posted by tayView Post



And the users don't get 'records' that keep them from obtaining employment, thereby keeping them off of Welfare type assistance.


Do you seriously think legalizing weed is going to lower the amount of people on welfare?


Quote:

Based on the failure of the war on drugs, whether by design or not, this seems to be the most logical step to try and stem the tide of excessive costs to the taxpayers.




And just like bootleggers or moonshiners in alcohol there will be some entrepreneurs selling the pot cheap but that can only harm the profitability of organized crime.........


The same would apply to guns... a war that can't be won.
 
coldstream
#19
Quote: Originally Posted by SalView Post

sooooooooooooo pretty much like alcohol then, the losers will lose and the moderate users will carry on as usual. So nothing will change except people won't be imprisoned for it.


That's not true. Alcohol can be the bane of the lives of small per centage of people in our society (maybe 5%), but for the most part is well assimilated into our culture. Certainly as people mature most can drink moderately and responsibly and occasionally. It is generally held to be a 'social' intoxicant, and in moderate use is well tolerated and transient in its effects, washing out of the system in a day or so.

Marijuana is in fact a NARCOTIC... not the benign 'love' drug of reputation. It has a powerful inward momenturm, isolating users, destroying social self confidence, sabatoging planning and engagement of critical 'life' processes, especially in employment and family.

It has documented psychotic symptoms with habitual use. It stays in the system for weeks. Any regular smoker knows how easy it is to trigger another high, by activating the THC stored up in the fat system with a couple of tokes.

Although not inevitably linked with other addictive drugs... meth, heroin, cocaine.. it is linked in culturural and psychological attributes.

It strikes me as this is only the first step in the drug legalization lobby. The thin edge of the wedge.. which will see all drugs decriminalized under the aegis of 'personal freedom'. Likely with catastrophic results for society as a whole.
 
lone wolf
Free Thinker
+1
#20
Quote: Originally Posted by taxslaveView Post

So now the government is getting its cut via taxes instead of fines. Different bureaucracy doing the collecting is all.

A big plus is in not having to pay the price for enforcing simple possession laws.
 
taxslave
No Party Affiliation
+3
#21  Top Rated Post
Quote: Originally Posted by coldstreamView Post

That's not true. Alcohol can be the bane of the lives of small per centage of people in our society (maybe 5%), but for the most part is well assimilated into our culture. Certainly as people mature most can drink moderately and responsibly and occasionally. It is generally held to be a 'social' intoxicant, and in moderate use is well tolerated and transient in its effects, washing out of the system in a day or so.
Marijuana is in fact a NARCOTIC... not the benign 'love' drug of reputation. It has a powerful inward momenturm, isolating users, destroying social self confidence, sabatoging planning and engagement of critical 'life' processes, especially in employment and family.
It has documented psychotic symptoms with habitual use. It stays in the system for weeks. Any regular smoker knows how easy it is to trigger another high, by activating the THC stored up in the fat system with a couple of tokes.
Although not inevitably linked with other addictive drugs... meth, heroin, cocaine.. it is linked in culturural and psychological attributes.
It strikes me as this is only the first step in the drug legalization lobby. The thin edge of the wedge.. which will see all drugs decriminalized under the aegis of 'personal freedom'. Likely with catastrophic results for society as a whole.

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You just watch a rerun of REEFER MADNESS again? Marijuana in in fact NOT a narcotic. That was a BS story put out by an idiot to con the gullible.
The absolute best thing we could do is to legalize all drugs and treat addictions as mental illness which is what addiction rightfully is.
 
tay
#22
'Marijuana overdoses kill 37 in Colorado'





Colorado is reconsidering its decision to legalize recreational pot following the deaths of dozens due to marijuana overdoses.

According to a report in the Rocky Mountain News, 37 people were killed across the state on Jan. 1, the first day the drug became legal for all adults to purchase. Several more are clinging onto life in local emergency rooms and are not expected to survive.

"It's complete chaos here," says Dr. Jack Shepard, chief of surgery at St. Luke's Medical Center in Denver. "I've put five college students in body bags since breakfast and more are arriving every minute.

"We are seeing cardiac arrests, hypospadias, acquired trimethylaminuria and multiple organ failures. By next week the death toll could go as high as 200, maybe 300. Someone needs to step in and stop this madness. My god, why did we legalize marijuana? What were we thinking?"

Rainin' Fire in the Sky

Colorado and Washington state approved the sale of marijuana for recreational use in November though statewide ballot measures. Under the new policies pot is legal for adult use, regulated like alcohol and heavily taxed.

One of the principal arguments of legalization advocates was that cannabis has long been considered safer than alcohol and tobacco and was not thought not to cause overdose. But a brave minority tried to warn Coloradans of the drug's dangers.

"We told everyone this would happen," says Peter Swindon, president and CEO of local brewer MolsonCoors. "Marijuana is a deadly hardcore drug that causes addiction and destroys lives.

"When was the last time you heard of someone overdosing on beer? All these pro-marijuana groups should be ashamed of themselves. The victims' blood is on their hands."





http://dailycurrant.com/2014/01/02/marijuana-overdoses-kill-37-in-colorado-on-first-day-of-legalization/
 
Ron in Regina
Free Thinker
+2
#23
Quote: Originally Posted by tayView Post

'Marijuana overdoses kill 37 in Colorado'





Colorado is reconsidering.......

FALSE http://www.snopes.com/politics/satire/overdose.asp
 
mentalfloss
No Party Affiliation
#24
I'm in favour of legalization but how is Colorado dealing with impaired drivers?
 
Sal
No Party Affiliation
+1
#25
lmfao.... Reefer madness, reefer madness, run.......

or

Meh light up, relax, go with the flow, and float
 
petros
#26
Quote: Originally Posted by mentalflossView Post

I'm in favour of legalization but how is Colorado dealing with impaired drivers?

Swabs.
 
taxslave
No Party Affiliation
#27
Quote: Originally Posted by petrosView Post

Swabs.

Swabs don't prove impairment, only use in the last 12 hrs. Or at least that is how it is with the ones we do for work . Shows alcohol as well.

Quote: Originally Posted by tayView Post

'Marijuana overdoses kill 37 in Colorado'





Colorado is reconsidering its decision to legalize recreational pot following the deaths of dozens due to marijuana overdoses.

According to a report in the Rocky Mountain News, 37 people were killed across the state on Jan. 1, the first day the drug became legal for all adults to purchase. Several more are clinging onto life in local emergency rooms and are not expected to survive.

"It's complete chaos here," says Dr. Jack Shepard, chief of surgery at St. Luke's Medical Center in Denver. "I've put five college students in body bags since breakfast and more are arriving every minute.

"We are seeing cardiac arrests, hypospadias, acquired trimethylaminuria and multiple organ failures. By next week the death toll could go as high as 200, maybe 300. Someone needs to step in and stop this madness. My god, why did we legalize marijuana? What were we thinking?"

Rainin' Fire in the Sky

Colorado and Washington state approved the sale of marijuana for recreational use in November though statewide ballot measures. Under the new policies pot is legal for adult use, regulated like alcohol and heavily taxed.

One of the principal arguments of legalization advocates was that cannabis has long been considered safer than alcohol and tobacco and was not thought not to cause overdose. But a brave minority tried to warn Coloradans of the drug's dangers.

"We told everyone this would happen," says Peter Swindon, president and CEO of local brewer MolsonCoors. "Marijuana is a deadly hardcore drug that causes addiction and destroys lives.

"When was the last time you heard of someone overdosing on beer? All these pro-marijuana groups should be ashamed of themselves. The victims' blood is on their hands."





http://dailycurrant.com/2014/01/02/marijuana-overdoses-kill-37-in-colorado-on-first-day-of-legalization/

You realize of course that coldstream et al will take that as truth?
 
petros
+1
#28
Swabs and the roadside dance are how it's going to be. They'll swab your fingers and steering wheel too as well as the cheek.
 
skookumchuck
Free Thinker
+1
#29
If you had a 40 year old bi polar child as i do, and you knew that child would destroy a full years hard work after spending a weekend getting totally bonged. What would your attitude about pot be?
What if you also knew that the descent into bi polar was triggered by pot at age 15 ish?
 
taxslave
No Party Affiliation
#30
Quote: Originally Posted by skookumchuckView Post

If you had a 40 year old bi polar child as i do, and you knew that child would destroy a full years hard work after spending a weekend getting totally bonged. What would your attitude about pot be?
What if you also knew that the descent into bi polar was triggered by pot at age 15 ish?

I would have to question that one. Were there other drugs/alcohol involved. I know two bi polar people that smoke pot on a daily basis. One has real problems when alcohol is involved. The other does not drink.
 

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