Romney trounced in debate


#juan
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I just watched Romney get outmatched by Obama in the debate. Obama seemed to be very confident in
his answers, and very quick to take apart Romney's errors. I didn't watch the first debate, but this one was
absolutely won by Obama.
 
Kreskin
+4
#2
I thought they were both good. Obama may have had a few more gotcha moments. I thought the Libya thing backfired on Romney.
 
#juan
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#3
Quote: Originally Posted by KreskinView Post

I thought they were both good. Obama may have had a few more gotcha moments. I thought the Libya thing backfired on Romney.

You are right there. It was almost as if Obama studied up on the Benghazi thing. When he listed all the things a president should do
and that he did do, Romney sort of pulled his ears in a bit.
 
Kreskin
+1
#4
The next and last debate will be on foreign policy, which favors Obama. However, the debates have shown that Romney is Presidential and the actual content here on in won't mean much. In the end the election will go down to the wire and will make for good TV on November 6.
 
#juan
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My only beef with the American elections is that the damned things are on for a whole year. The year might have been
justified in the days of Patrick Henry but there is no reason why the elections couldn't be held in a couple months.
Communications are no longer handled by Pony Express. A president and his administration can plan, initiate, start,
and finish a war in the time it now takes to hold an election, Nonsense!!!
 
captain morgan
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#6
Quote: Originally Posted by #juanView Post

You are right there. It was almost as if Obama studied up on the Benghazi thing. When he listed all the things a president should do
and that he did do, Romney sort of pulled his ears in a bit.

Obama sure got his back up when Romney reminded him of his decision to go campaigning in Nevada and Colorado within one day of the event.
 
Highball
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#7
We'll all get a chance to see in just few weeks won't we? The real winner will get the needed Electoral College votes.
 
JLM
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#8
Quote: Originally Posted by captain morganView Post

Obama sure got his back up when Romney reminded him of his decision to go campaigning in Nevada and Colorado within one day of the event.

Small potatoes! I doubt very much if the decision was made the day he went!
 
WLDB
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Quote: Originally Posted by #juanView Post

My only beef with the American elections is that the damned things are on for a whole year.

Longer than that. They were talking about the primaries a year and a half ago. As soon as this election is over they'll be speculating about the next one.
 
Kreskin
#10
The race for 2016 has already started. Hillary is stepping down so she can run.
 
Locutus
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#11
These are temporary popularity contests at best. Lasting effect is fleeting.

The biggest problem I see is moderation bias. One is too timid, the next is a bama fan and the third, who knows. This time the prez got 10 minutes more, hand selected questions from the moderator (with an immigration question asked by a latino of course because we don't care about color) and they get to dance around nose to nose on stage. I'm waiting for one of 'em to drop an expletive man.

The final battle should be that both should be kept in a soundproof booth and when your time expires, so does your mic and the little 60 watt overhead bulb. Keep babbling all you want in your closet but we won't hear or see you until it's time for your next question.
 
tay
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#12
Quote: Originally Posted by KreskinView Post

I thought they were both good. Obama may have had a few more gotcha moments. I thought the Libya thing backfired on Romney.



RomneyCrowleyfactcheck - YouTube

 
Bar Sinister
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Quote: Originally Posted by #juanView Post

My only beef with the American elections is that the damned things are on for a whole year. The year might have been
justified in the days of Patrick Henry but there is no reason why the elections couldn't be held in a couple months.
Communications are no longer handled by Pony Express. A president and his administration can plan, initiate, start,
and finish a war in the time it now takes to hold an election, Nonsense!!!

Absolutely. The entire US election system is incredibly cumbersome and so money driven that the democratic process has been completely distorted. Don't expect any change though, the current system works far too well for corprorate America which favours a system in which any successful candidate is completely beholden to those who supply the cash.
 
Locutus
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Well this is awkward:

MSNBC Undecided Voter Panel Leans More Toward Romney After Debate - YouTube

 
captain morgan
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Quote: Originally Posted by JLMView Post

Small potatoes! I doubt very much if the decision was made the day he went!

Obama got his back up on this because he knows that his actions in going on the campaign trail at that time rather than doing the right thing and looking into the event is being critically examined by the voters.

He placed his reelection aspirations far ahead of the value of the lives of the diplomats that were killed
 
JLM
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Quote: Originally Posted by captain morganView Post

Obama got his back up on this because he knows that his actions in going on the campaign trail at that time rather than doing the right thing and looking into the event is being critically examined by the voters.

He placed his reelection aspirations far ahead of the value of the lives of the diplomats that were killed

I'm of two minds about this. As my old Dad used to say (he took my Mum to the movies the day his dad died) you can't do anything for the dead but you might make life a little more enjoyable for the living.
 
Goober
Free Thinker
#17
Where are all those that stated Romney would hand Obama his head.
Obama nailed Romney on the issues I mentioned- and more.
And Romney was stressed - Guess he thought it would be a cake walk.
Any doubts that Obama can go head to head with Romney. Please let me know.

CM as to the diplomats - A President has to campaign- He can and did address the issue.

If a President hunkered down every time Americans are killed he would never leave the WH.
 
Locutus
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#18
In the history books of wool-over-sheeple-eye-removal this might, just might, go down as one of the most obvious and over-the-top Machiavellian media manuevers ever.




Watching it unfold on live TV it did not seem right. It was awkwardly and comfortably scripted, and too smooth in execution. But watching it on replay the agenda filled manipulation was obvious. It appears Candy Crowley and CNN together with the Obama Administration scripted the Libyan injection into the Presidential Debate.


I’m not just talking about Candy Crowley interjecting on behalf of President Obama, and interrupting Mitt Romney, I mean the whole segment was a set up. So we did a little research:

Candy Crowley told Erin Burnett on CNN’s show Out Front, Monday Night 10/15, that she had collected the questions from the invited and vetted debate audience at Hofstra University and was reviewing them. This was Monday on the 7pm broadcast of Erin Burnett.

When the question on Libya was asked by audience member Kerry Ladka, he prefaced the question by saying:
….this question actually comes from my, err, um, a brain trust of my friends at Global Telecom Supply in Mineola yesterday, we were sitting around talking about Libya…
If Candy Crowley already had the audience questions assembled the day before, how could Kerry Ladka and his brain trust friends have been writing one?

Secondly, look at the origin and subject switch from Candy Crowley. When she said “we are changing topics to a question from Kerry… from Kerry Ladka“, Obama already knew what to look for and where he was seated. There are numerous “TELLS“ Watch the video – it is at 1:06:35 Watch.

Watch the Full Town Hall Debate between Barack Obama and Mitt Romney - YouTube




President Obama moved (physically walked) directly to Kerry Ladka, and said “Hi Kerry“,… (but oddly Kerry had not moved, nor identified himself) …. then, rut roh,…. after an internal psyche trigger kicked in, President Obama ((‘oops’)) looks around as if to say where am I going… then asks “what’s your name“?


Continue reading →


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CNN and The Obama Administration – Weapons of Misdirection | The Last Refuge


Just sad and obvious.
 
JLM
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Quote: Originally Posted by GooberView Post

Where are all those that stated Romney would hand Obama his head.
Obama nailed Romney on the issues I mentioned- and more.
And Romney was stressed - Guess he thought it would be a cake walk.
Any doubts that Obama can go head to head with Romney. Please let me know.

CM as to the diplomats - A President has to campaign- He can and did address the issue.

If a President hunkered down every time Americans are killed he would never leave the WH.

I think they are lying low!
 
Locutus
#20
Crowley Interrupts Romney 28 Times, Obama Just 9

Crowley Interrupts Romney 28 Times, Obama Just 9


I might trust Jon Stewart as the last moderator.
 
captain morgan
Bloc Québécois
+1
#21
Quote: Originally Posted by GooberView Post

Where are all those that stated Romney would hand Obama his head.
Obama nailed Romney on the issues I mentioned- and more.
And Romney was stressed - Guess he thought it would be a cake walk.
Any doubts that Obama can go head to head with Romney. Please let me know.

CM as to the diplomats - A President has to campaign- He can and did address the issue.

If a President hunkered down every time Americans are killed he would never leave the WH.

Hey Goober... Obama, like Biden was on his heels almost the entire time... His primary strategy in this debate was to challenge Romney's position on everything in an attempt to discredit his policies.

That strategy might have worked had it come from an incumbent that produced any form of positive tangible results, but seeing how Obama's present term has been anything but a success, he is in no position to question anyone else's ideas. Fact is, Obama can not point to any real accomplishments that he has engaged during his tenure and that goes a long way in explaining why his only strategy was to attack Romney.

Lastly, did you catch the comment Obama made when he used the word 'surplus' when talking economic policy?.. It was a quick comment, but the only reference that I can apply to using 'surplus' would be relative to the surplus debt that has accrued under his admin... 6 trillion worth and counting.

Hope and Change Goober... Hopefully that is exactly what the American electorate will pursue come election day
 
JLM
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Quote: Originally Posted by captain morganView Post

Hey Goober... Obama, like Biden was on his heels almost the entire time... His primary strategy in this debate was to challenge Romney's position on everything in an attempt to discredit his policies.

That strategy might have worked had it come from an incumbent that produced any form of positive tangible results, but seeing how Obama's present term has been anything but a success, he is in no position to question anyone else's ideas. Fact is, Obama can not point to any real accomplishments that he has engaged during his tenure and that goes a long way in explaining why his only strategy was to attack Romney.

Lastly, did you catch the comment Obama made when he used the word 'surplus' when talking economic policy?.. It was a quick comment, but the only reference that I can apply to using 'surplus' would be relative to the surplus debt that has accrued under his admin... 6 trillion worth and counting.

Hope and Change Goober... Hopefully that is exactly what the American electorate will pursue come election day

Actually he did, got G.M. and Chrysler back on their feet, terminated Osama Bin Laden, got a healthcare plan underway, got the troops out of Iraq. Need I go on?
 
captain morgan
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#23
Quote: Originally Posted by LocutusView Post

I might trust Jon Stewart as the last moderator.

I think that the original referee for the UFC fights would be best



Quote: Originally Posted by JLMView Post

Actually he did, got G.M. and Chrysler back on their feet, terminated Osama Bin Laden, got a healthcare plan underway, got the troops out of Iraq. Need I go on?

Yes...

Any answers for Gitmo still being open, record unemployment, housing crisis and record foreclosures?..

How about that debt crisis, eh? 6 trillion and counting.. Any answers to that?

...... Yeah - I thought not
 
JLM
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Quote: Originally Posted by captain morganView Post

I think that the original referee for the UFC fights would be best





Yes...

Any answers for Gitmo still being open, record unemployment, housing crisis and record foreclosures?..

How about that debt crisis, eh? 6 trillion and counting.. Any answers to that?

...... Yeah - I thought not

I've said it before (about 15 times) Politicians have very little effect on the economy (it's not their job). Their job is to enact legislation and be a "watch dog". Maybe Gitmo isn't shut down but I just heard on the news the other day there is no one from the western world remaining there. He still has four years to shut it down completely. I believe his promises were made for an 8 year time table. (Much to your chagrin)
 
captain morgan
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Quote: Originally Posted by JLMView Post

I've said it before (about 15 times) Politicians have very little effect on the economy (it's not their job).

Except when it comes to things like trade agreements, pipelines, taxes or the NEP, right?

Sorry JLM, but your belief that politicians have nothing to do with the economy is very mistaken... Just ask the American people about the 6 trillion that they have to pay back.


Quote: Originally Posted by JLMView Post

Maybe Gitmo isn't shut down but I just heard on the news the other day there is no one from the western world remaining there.

.. So, what you're saying is that it is still open then?

Quote: Originally Posted by JLMView Post

He still has four years to shut it down completely. I believe his promises were made for an 8 year time table. (Much to your chagrin)

That's not what he promised when he first ran for office...

Opps
 
JLM
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#26
Quote: Originally Posted by captain morganView Post

Except when it comes to things like trade agreements, pipelines, taxes or the NEP, right?

Sorry JLM, but your belief that politicians have nothing to do with the economy is very mistaken... Just ask the American people about the 6 trillion that they have to pay back.




No doubt about it, $6 Trillion sounds very formidable. It's $2000 per American. I'd bet the average American's home has increased in value by more than $2000 in the past 4 years. Perhaps the assets of the country have increased by $6 trillion in the past 4 years. Was the entire $6 Trillion spent unrecoverable or was some of it put into assets. How much of it was spent on infrastructure (with the side benefit of creating employment)? The biggest problem is people fall for one liner statements politicians make. Maybe Obama is just as guilty as Romney on that score! The sad part is most of the value of these debates lies with people who act on a whim without thinking.
 
DaSleeper
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The rationalization of Obamatons is amazing at times......

Even in Canada....
 
JLM
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Quote: Originally Posted by DaSleeperView Post

The rationalization of Obamatons is amazing at times......

Even in Canada....

Really?? When Romney won the first debate the "whole wide world" acknowledged it. Would you expect different for Obama? In my mind by far the more credible!
 
captain morgan
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#29
Quote: Originally Posted by JLMView Post

No doubt about it, $6 Trillion sounds very formidable.

It is

Quote: Originally Posted by JLMView Post

It's $2000 per American.

$20,000... But considering that 50%+ of Americans don't pay Federal income taxes, it sure makes for one helluva debt for the minority that do pay taxes


Quote: Originally Posted by JLMView Post

I'd bet the average American's home has increased in value by more than $2000 in the past 4 years. Perhaps the assets of the country have increased by $6 trillion in the past 4 years.

That would be interesting indeed... I wonder if the avg American home has increased by $20,000 in value over the last 4 years?

Quote: Originally Posted by JLMView Post

Was the entire $6 Trillion spent unrecoverable or was some of it put into assets.

You would be wise to look into it

Quote: Originally Posted by DaSleeperView Post

The rationalization of Obamatons is amazing at times......

Even in Canada....


Amazing doesn't quite describe it..... More like it defies all logic
 
JLM
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Quote: Originally Posted by captain morganView Post

It is



$20,000... But considering that 50%+ of Americans don't pay Federal income taxes, it sure makes for one helluva debt for the minority that do pay taxes



Yep, I was just going to correct it but you beat me to it!

Quote: Originally Posted by captain morganView Post

That would be interesting indeed... I wonder if the avg American home has increased by $20,000 in value over the last 4 years?


Probably not but wouldn't that have more to do with Freddie boy and Fanny girl than with Obama?
 

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