it's called trolling
It seems gerry is one of limited capacity to post anything remotely intelligent...
it's called trolling
My apologies karrie..
Going forward, I shall consult my Super 8 ball prior to posting... ;-)
this is what get's me....and why I consider all of this bullshyte as trolling. This thread is no fricken different than the "Jesus is gay" thread. It's a fricken troll with the sole purpose of trashing Christian beliefs. I have never understood the need of athiests to trash something that they supposedly don't believe in. What the Frick is it to you if someone else believes in Christ? What is your need to trash that belief?
I wasn't even aware that Darwinism was now a religion, the 'ism' should have been the big clue I guess.Will we as a species continue to rely upon faith-based initiatives, or can we one day break from the psychological bonds of religion and see the world for what it really is?
I think enough time has been wasted on superstition...
I also object to that...I objected to the cartoon displays of Allah. I celebrated when that Canadian rag went tits up after it reprinted those same cartoons. There is no reason to trash or belittle someones religeous beliefs.For logical consistency, gerryh, you should now drop in to the "Life after death" thread and make the same objection to people trashing Islam. Or are you the only one that's right? It's probably too subtle for you to get, but implicit in that is answer to your question. Read Christopher Hitchens for a really LONG answer. .
Why should theological beliefs get a free pass? People inject religiously-based arguments into public policy debates about abortion, same-sex marriage, stem cell research, capital punishment, and a host of other things, they've got to take the hits that'll open them to, just as any other argument does. If the religiously-based arguments are not well founded, and most of them aren't, they're just arguments from authority, they deserve to be challenged.I agree none should show disrespect on other peoples theological beliefs...
I agree none should show disrespect on other peoples theological beliefs, the problem I have with religion is that people have used religion to gain political power, and that sucks, also religion has become a multimillion dollar industry who pay no taxes to municipalities, provincial, and federal, and are on record few administrators including the ministers are in ivory towers while people donate money to pay God.....
I guess it would depend on if you do give somebody a free pass, Politicians and Corporations and Bankers should also be fair game in the 'who's causing the most trouble for mankind', or is it a give-in that they are corrupt and nothing can be done against them?Why should theological beliefs get a free pass? People inject religiously-based arguments into public policy debates about abortion, same-sex marriage, stem cell research, capital punishment, and a host of other things, they've got to take the hits that'll open them to, just as any other argument does. If the religiously-based arguments are not well founded, and most of them aren't, they're just arguments from authority, they deserve to be challenged.
Yes there is. Robert Heinlein said it best:. There is no reason to trash or belittle someones religeous beliefs.
Attack the 'establishment' with the same vigor and you won't have to worry about anything at all, the 'disappeared' never do. But then these guys are also your heros, you swallow blindly anything they feed you.Yes there is. Robert Heinlein said it best:
"On two subjects the overwhelming majority of people regarded their own opinions as Absolute Truth, and sincerely believed that anyone who disagreed with them was immoral, outrageous, sinful, sacrilegious, offensive, intolerable, stupid, illogical, treasonable, actionable, against the public interest, ridiculous, and obscene.
The two subjects were (of course) sex and religion.
On sex and religion each American citizen knew the One Right Answer, by direct Revelation from God.
In view of the wide diversity of opinion, most of them must necessarily have been mistaken. But on these two subjects they were not accessible to reason.
'But you must respect another man's religious beliefs!'
For Heaven's sake, why? Stupid is stupid--faith doesn't make it smart."
this is what get's me....and why I consider all of this bullshyte as trolling. This thread is no fricken different than the "Jesus is gay" thread. It's a fricken troll with the sole purpose of trashing Christian beliefs. I have never understood the need of athiests to trash something that they supposedly don't believe in. What the Frick is it to you if someone else believes in Christ? What is your need to trash that belief?
..these guys are also your heros, you swallow blindly anything they feed you.
Nice to see you two maintaining your usual standards of cogent, reasoned, evidence-based argument. :roll:gerryh said:useless pieces of shyte masquerading as a smart men.
A good argument for Jesus being 'fiction' should involve more than 'prove He's not' or 'because I say so'.See, I find that all well and good for you to say gerry. You aren't a zealot. But, as much as it gets under your skin to sit and listen to them preach about how Jesus and God don't exist, it must get equally under their skin to sit and listen to herald and the like post thread after thread explaining how religion is THE way, and people will go to hell without it. Tit for tat in my books. If one zealot is okay, then the opposing zealot ought to be. For most things anyway.
Nice of you not to deny it.8ONice to see you two maintaining your usual standards of cogent, reasoned, evidence-based argument. :roll:
A good argument for Jesus being 'fiction' should involve more than 'prove He's not' or 'because I say so'.
And from what I can see, that's exactly what Scott has presented in this thread, and the very reason he gave in his OP, for starting the thread in the first place.