Blu-ray emerges as winner of HD format war


Praxius
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http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNew...0219?hub=World

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Toshiba bowed to business reality and announced it would end its HD DVD product line and cede the field to Sony's Blu-ray disc technology.

"We concluded that a swift decision would be best," Toshiba President Atsutoshi Nishida told reporters Tuesday at his company's Tokyo offices.

The battle for supremacy in next-generation DVD technology had been fought for several years.

But Nishida said Warner Bros. Entertainment's decision to only release movies in the Blue-ray format made Toshiba's decision inevitable.

"That had tremendous impact," he said. "If we had continued, that would have created problems for consumers, and we simply had no chance to win."

Wal-Mart had also announced on Friday that it would only be selling Blu-ray discs and hardware moving forward. Netflix Inc., the online DVD rental company, said it would stop renting HD DVD titles.

Other major U.S. retailers like Target Corp. and Blockbuster Inc. had made similar decisions.

While Sony has won this battle, consumer technology expert and CTV columnist Kris Abel warned the victory might be short-lived -- and that the fight somewhat pointless.

"I think it was a battle that wasn't really to the benefit of consumers," he told CTV.ca. "It was a battle between these companies over who was going to control what they thought was going to be a lucrative business, but their greed may have ruined that."

A foolish fight

High-definition DVDs are to replace traditional DVDs, which are becoming steadily less profitable as the format ages.

The differences in image quality between the competing HD formats of Sony and Toshiba would be undetectable to an average person simultaneously watching them, Abel said.
However, Sony Blue-ray discs won't play in a Toshiba HD DVD machine and vice versa.
But Abel said there's no reason for that other than greed.

"In late 2005, this was something that both Sony and Toshiba sat down and took a look at," he said.

"There was encouragement from the industry for these two to sit down" and develop a common format, he said, but the talks collapsed in acrimony.

"Obviously the consideration wasn't for the consumers, it wasn't for the format or the industry. It was all about who was going to be in charge of this format and therefore, who was going to collect the greater share of profits."

But even with the format war over, a competitor has already started to emerge.

Apple is now in the movie downloading business in the United States -- and it offers titles in HD, Abel said, adding it will soon be coming to Canada.

Microsoft -- which had supported the HD DVD format -- is also in the movie distribution business through its Xbox gaming and home entertainment console, he said.

Sony's PlayStation 3 console, a major competitor of the Xbox, also works as a Blu-ray player.

Abel said the Toshibas and Sonys would prefer movies to be distributed on a physical disc because they see more profit potential, but as with music, the world is changing.

"It may not be developed to the point where it's viable to the average consumer, but early adopters and home theatre buffs are starting to take a look at it," he said.

Apple announced in January it has already sold seven million movies, he said.

To enjoy high definition, one needs an HD television and a player to view such titles on disc.

Consumers who want to enjoy this new technology will need a major hardware upgrade, Abel said.

Here's a question:

So all those people who bought an HD-DVD player or whatever to use those discs.... are now SOoL and basically blew their money on nothing? Now they have to go out and buy a bran new Blue-Ray and now the HD-DVD has gone the way of Beta?

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HAR HAR HAR Hack *cough gag choke*

That'll teach you silly people who did, to not buy these things while they are competing for main distribution.

Sucks to be you guys with the HD-DVD's.
 
DurkaDurka
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I have owned both HD-DVD and Blu-Ray. I sold the HD-DVD player months ago so fortunately I'm not stuck with a paperweight.
 
Tonington
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Quote: Originally Posted by DurkaDurkaView Post

I have owned both HD-DVD and Blu-Ray. I sold the HD-DVD player months ago so fortunately I'm not stuck with a paperweight.

Nice move

I'm going to wait a little while yet, while all the HD-DVD owners buy new systems. Though I heard on the news that supply and demand won't be favourable, to me at least, for a while yet. Not many manufacturers of the discs themselves.

Anyways, good for Sony. Nice for them to finally put one in the win column.
 
DurkaDurka
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Buying a PS3 is the most economical solution if you are looking at buying a BluRay player. The 40gb model can be had for $399, compared to $499 for a stand alone player.

The picture quality on both HD-DVD and Blu Ray is amazing, as long as you have a TV set that can output at 720p/1080i/p.
 
Praxius
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Just out od curiosity, what does the Wii use? DVD's still?
 
DurkaDurka
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Quote: Originally Posted by PraxiusView Post

Just out od curiosity, what does the Wii use? DVD's still?

Yeah, dvd based media.
 
Kreskin
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Will blu-ray work with my VHS or 8-track?
 
DurkaDurka
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Quote: Originally Posted by KreskinView Post

Will blu-ray work with my VHS or 8-track?

I don't think backwards compatible goes back to the 70's
 
Kreskin
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I just want to guess the name of the next generation of technology so I can reserve the domain name.
 
#juan
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Quote: Originally Posted by DurkaDurkaView Post

I don't think backwards compatible goes back to the 70's

Does this mean I should sell my Sony Beta machine....?......
 
#juan
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Seriously. The biggest cause of the death of HD DVD was probably the decision by Walmart, and Best Buy, to back Blue Ray...
 
Praxius
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Quote: Originally Posted by #juanView Post

Seriously. The biggest cause of the death of HD DVD was probably the decision by Walmart, and Best Buy, to back Blue Ray...

Not to mention Blue-Ray just sounds cooler then HD-DVD.... DVD is so 1994.
 
DurkaDurka
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Quote: Originally Posted by #juanView Post

Seriously. The biggest cause of the death of HD DVD was probably the decision by Walmart, and Best Buy, to back Blue Ray...

Sony paid off 2 of the big studios so they would exclusively support BluRay. The winner of the war was not at all based on technical superiority.
 
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Quote: Originally Posted by DurkaDurkaView Post

Sony paid off 2 of the big studios so they would exclusively support BluRay. The winner of the war was not at all based on technical superiority.

Sony probably didn't want another disaster like Betamax.......
 
DurkaDurka
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Quote: Originally Posted by #juanView Post

Sony probably didn't want another disaster like Betamax.......

Exactly.
 
EagleSmack
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But if we didn't buy HD-DVDs we would have missed out on a lot over the years. It is just like VHS players. Blue Ray will be surpassed someday I am sure.

Sort of like giving everyone who bought a Sony walkman cassette player a hard time when CDs came out. The same with Atari, Playstation I, PS 2, XBox.

Anyone still using their Commodore 64?
 
DurkaDurka
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From what I have read, digital downloads are going to be the real competition to Blu-Ray. Already with the XBOX 360, you can download full length feature movies in high definition and save them to the units hard drive. I personally cannot wait until this is a standard. Why keep all your movies stores on an optical disc, when you can store hundreds of them on a hard drive, available on demand?
 
Praxius
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Quote: Originally Posted by EagleSmackView Post

Anyone still using their Commodore 64?

Not since the fuse in the Keyboard kepts blowing out and leaving me with no sound.

Now how was I supposed to detect the soldiers walking nearby in Airborne Ranger?





Man that game was fun.... Gunship wasn't so bad either, but that was more my Dad's game.
 
Kreskin
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Quote: Originally Posted by EagleSmackView Post

But if we didn't buy HD-DVDs we would have missed out on a lot over the years. It is just like VHS players. Blue Ray will be surpassed someday I am sure.

Sort of like giving everyone who bought a Sony walkman cassette player a hard time when CDs came out. The same with Atari, Playstation I, PS 2, XBox.

Anyone still using their Commodore 64?

Pong is the ultimate!
 
Lester
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Actually all is not lost for those who bought HD-DVD- you get a way better picture when playing standard DVDs on them. I have one for xbox360 I paid 200.00 for it and there is quite a difference. Both formats are probably on the verge of being obsolete anyway.

These days they don't have much time to market something before the next big thing comes along. Since they spent so much time and effort fighting each other , Apple walked in and got a toe hold in their market.
 
EagleSmack
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Quote: Originally Posted by KreskinView Post

Pong is the ultimate!

And how can we forget Atari "Combat" or "Sea Battle". I just think of all the quarters I spent on games like Asteroids, Defender, Missle Command etc. when i can buy a CD in the software discount pile for $10 with all of those 1980's arcade games on one disk.
 
DurkaDurka
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man, there is a lot of retro posters in this thread.... lol

I just purchased Full Metal Jacket & Good fella's on Blu-Ray, the quality is amazing, much better then the high def you get via satellite or cable due to it not being heavily compressed.
 
DurkaDurka
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Quote: Originally Posted by LesterView Post

Actually all is not lost for those who bought HD-DVD- you get a way better picture when playing standard DVDs on them. I have one for xbox360 I paid 200.00 for it and there is quite a difference. Both formats are probably on the verge of being obsolete anyway.

I used to have the HD-DVD addon for the 360, I have nothing negative to say about it. Another handy thing with the 360 addon is you can hook it up to your PC and pirate HD-DVD films.
 
Kreskin
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Quote: Originally Posted by EagleSmackView Post

And how can we forget Atari "Combat" or "Sea Battle". I just think of all the quarters I spent on games like Asteroids, Defender, Missle Command etc. when i can buy a CD in the software discount pile for $10 with all of those 1980's arcade games on one disk.

I remember playing Asteroids for about 10 hours straight and I had about 250 extra men. It trained me well to sit at a pc for 10 hours straight posting on forums.

I was also a big Galaxian fan.
 
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