#1May 31st, 2007
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#2
Re: BELL EXPRESSVU help
May 31st, 2007
You need to have your friend call expressvu and have them transfer the receiver to your account.
#4
Re: BELL EXPRESSVU help
May 31st, 2007Quote: Originally Posted by Toro
Account sharing is the most common method.Yeah, but how would you do it illegally?
#5
Re: BELL EXPRESSVU help
May 31st, 2007
Yep, I have read this lots.
Your friend *must* call into the Bell ExpressVu line (1-888-SKY-DISH) and transfer the receiver to your account.
It would be handy to pass on your account # (can be found on your monthly bill) to your friend so the transfer goes easily.
Your friend is also going to need some of the codes and numbers listed on the label on the back of the receiver... along with the model number.
If its new just regular and not HD or PVR and its a compact fat square its a 4100, if its not HD or PVR but older and a thin longer rectangle its probably a 3200.
The latest HD PVR is a 9200
Your friend *must* call into the Bell ExpressVu line (1-888-SKY-DISH) and transfer the receiver to your account.
It would be handy to pass on your account # (can be found on your monthly bill) to your friend so the transfer goes easily.
Your friend is also going to need some of the codes and numbers listed on the label on the back of the receiver... along with the model number.
If its new just regular and not HD or PVR and its a compact fat square its a 4100, if its not HD or PVR but older and a thin longer rectangle its probably a 3200.
The latest HD PVR is a 9200
#6
Re: BELL EXPRESSVU help
May 31st, 2007
is there any way that i can do it, eg. writing a bill of sale?
#7
Re: BELL EXPRESSVU help
May 31st, 2007Quote: Originally Posted by Toro
Yeah, but how would you do it illegally?
Quote: Originally Posted by bell
is there any way that i can do it, eg. writing a bill of sale?
Your friend has to do it because there smartcard# & receiver# are locked to his account. ExpressVu will not remove the box off his account unless he explicitly asks them to.
#8
Re: BELL EXPRESSVU help
May 31st, 2007
ok, so cant he just remove it from his account,and leave it with no one using it. and then i call back another time and activate it in my name at a later date
#9
Re: BELL EXPRESSVU help
May 31st, 2007Quote: Originally Posted by bell
He can't just remove it from his account, he has 3 options with it.ok, so cant he just remove it from his account,and leave it with no one using it. and then i call back another time and activate it in my name at a later date
-keep it activated on his account and continue to use it.
-have the CSR disable it, it will still remain on the account though.
-transfer the receiver to your account and allow you to use it.
#12
Re: BELL EXPRESSVU help
May 31st, 2007Quote: Originally Posted by bell
Ya, there isn't. I work for expressvu so I fairly well versed in this sort of thing.ok thanks for your help. i guess it is the only way
#13
Re: BELL EXPRESSVU help
May 31st, 2007Quote: Originally Posted by DocDred
Well, don't be pissed off when your monthly charges get increased due to piracy losses.Anything you can do to rip of Hell is a bonus
#14
Re: BELL EXPRESSVU help
May 31st, 2007
Well you have nearly 2 million subscribers.
I get a little sick of the price increases always being blamed on piracy.
I get a little sick of the price increases always being blamed on piracy.
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May 31st, 2007Quote: Originally Posted by DurkaDurka
Well, don't be pissed off when your monthly charges get increased due to piracy losses.
wanna talk piracy.
The bell people decided to combine my mobility bill and hardline bill so they did not send either bills one month. They had to do this to bypass the 2 different billing dates.
So not only was I stuck with a double large one bill they charged me 50 cents on each for a late payment fee.
When i phoned them they explained if you don't pay your bills on time there is a charge, and the guy was quite arrogant telling me this.
I screamed as loud as i could to bug him."How can I pay the bill if you don't send it to me." the rest of my conversation was rude calling him names and forced him to take off the buck....then i forced them to go back to two bills for i don't like the new one....LOL
I phoned peel regional and talked to the fraud squad , for if they do this to one guy it's a buck but 5 million and it's a 5 million dollar grab...he agreed with me but he said he would have to be able to prove intent on the behalf of bell executives and they would just hide behind computer programming problems.
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May 31st, 2007Quote: Originally Posted by westmanguy
The fault in the argument is that piracy actually costs Bell money. They assume if it wasn't pirated, the piraters would be subscribers. This is not necessarly the case. That doesn't make it legal but its hardly a capital crime either. Its not like drag racing down a residential street and killing a cab driver/father. If that gets 1 year of house arrest, stealing sattelite signals should only give you a $5 fine.Well you have nearly 2 million subscribers.
I get a little sick of the price increases always being blamed on piracy.
#17
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Jun 1st, 2007Quote: Originally Posted by IdRatherBeSkiing
I hear ya Doug... that got me bonkers when that news broke....man I mean obviousley DaDa had the good lawyerThe fault in the argument is that piracy actually costs Bell money. They assume if it wasn't pirated, the piraters would be subscribers. This is not necessarly the case. That doesn't make it legal but its hardly a capital crime either. Its not like drag racing down a residential street and killing a cab driver/father. If that gets 1 year of house arrest, stealing sattelite signals should only give you a $5 fine.
#18
Re: BELL EXPRESSVU help
Jun 1st, 2007
The thing is that how can you lose money from something you never had?
If they want to stop piracy then they MUST come up with new technology to stop it.
Ands something better than the last Niagra smart card fiasco.
If they want to stop piracy then they MUST come up with new technology to stop it.
Ands something better than the last Niagra smart card fiasco.
#19
Re: BELL EXPRESSVU help
Jun 1st, 2007Quote: Originally Posted by IdRatherBeSkiing
If people are using hacked expressvu box's, it does cost Bell money. regardless of lost revenue to potential customers. Bell subsidizes the cost of the equipment they sell to the consumer, if that equipment is bought and then used with a hacked card, Bell never has the chance recoup that money from having the customer sign on with them.The fault in the argument is that piracy actually costs Bell money. They assume if it wasn't pirated, the piraters would be subscribers. This is not necessarly the case. That doesn't make it legal but its hardly a capital crime either. Its not like drag racing down a residential street and killing a cab driver/father. If that gets 1 year of house arrest, stealing sattelite signals should only give you a $5 fine.
#20
Re: BELL EXPRESSVU help
Jun 1st, 2007
Ok, I see now... the recievers we buy are less than factory-cost price to get customers on board to make that $$ back on programming.
I thought FTA boxes were the new thing for hacking though?
I thought FTA boxes were the new thing for hacking though?
#21
Re: BELL EXPRESSVU help
Mar 25th, 2010
I've tried through calling, emailing, online chat and going to the Bell Store to find out what the programming I have for my satellite. I cannot acquire a list of available channels that I can reveiw. The only sheet to download from the site is a PDF (I couldn't possibly read with a microscope) and it doesn't tell me what the "Ultimate 12" is that I've been paying for 6 years without question. I pay in full for two receivers (no pirating going on here) and when channels appear and disappear I can't get any answers or basic customer service. What's the trick? I've already taken my internet to another provider, is it time to move the satellite too? Any advice would be apprecaited.
#22
Re: BELL EXPRESSVU help
Mar 25th, 2010
The package you subscribe to is grandfathered and no longer offered. Probably the reason they are having problems describing it to you.
If I recall correctly, the Ultimate 12 is locals (cbc, ctv, citytv etc) + 12 theme packs (sports, lifestyle, learning etc)
What do you mean by the channels disappearing? Do they not show up in the guide?
If I recall correctly, the Ultimate 12 is locals (cbc, ctv, citytv etc) + 12 theme packs (sports, lifestyle, learning etc)
What do you mean by the channels disappearing? Do they not show up in the guide?
#23
Re: BELL EXPRESSVU help
Mar 25th, 2010
I found that when I lose certain channels, it's as if I've had the receiver on for too long.....so I just unplug it, wait a while , plug it back in and the channel comes back..(like a reboot) don't know if that would help you...
#24
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Mar 25th, 2010Quote: Originally Posted by DaSleeper
Yeah, that can help. Usually if I lose channels, it's due to the receiver being inactive for a while. In that case, you can login to bell.ca and send a hit from the web page, which will update the card. In other cases, I usually just do a front panel reset or a check switch.I found that when I lose certain channels, it's as if I've had the receiver on for too long.....so I just unplug it, wait a while , plug it back in and the channel comes back..(like a reboot) don't know if that would help you...
#25
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Mar 25th, 2010Quote: Originally Posted by DurkaDurka
Yep...the other day I change channel and I suddenly get a message that my card is no good, So I pull the plug, pull the card out, put it back in, plug it in and voilaYeah, that can help. Usually if I lose channels, it's due to the receiver being inactive for a while. In that case, you can login to bell.ca and send a hit from the web page, which will update the card. In other cases, I usually just do a front panel reset or a check switch.
#26
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Mar 25th, 2010Quote: Originally Posted by DurkaDurka
I assume the (still) best way to add the 2nd receiver is to run a 2nd line all the way from the dish. putting more that one on one line only transmits the same program to both boxes.Ya, there isn't. I work for expressvu so I fairly well versed in this sort of thing.
#27
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Mar 25th, 2010Quote: Originally Posted by MHz
Yeah, second line from the dish or install a 1(input) x2(output) switch or you can get into 4x4 switches as well. Splitting a line can cause the polarity to get buggered, meaning one box would get even channels and the other get odd.I assume the (still) best way to add the 2nd receiver is to run a 2nd line all the way from the dish. putting more that one on one line only transmits the same program to both boxes.
#28
Re: BELL EXPRESSVU help
May 13th, 2010
Best way to get help is to leave Bell completely! Bell is an idiotic company that I never want to be with as a customers! You talk about customers stealing from bell. Have you ever heard how Bell scams and frauds people? Stay the hell away from Bell! Bell is bad taste to anyone's mouth!
#29
Re: BELL EXPRESSVU help
May 13th, 2010
I know Bell are pretty fussy about ownership of receivers.
Make sure you contact them about buying your friends receiver,
so they can advise you just how to do it, so they don't
get suspicious, and I think there is so much fraud, they
want to make sure the transfer of receivers is done on
the up and up.
Just call their tech support number, and they will inform
you of all the parts etc you need.
I have had bell express Vu for years, and have had nothing
but great satisfaction with them, they are so helpfull if
anything goes wrong with picture, and they have repair
advice online too, or right on the remote.
I have never been shafted or cheated by them, they have
changed my programming anytime I have requested it, with
lots of input and help from them.
Make sure you contact them about buying your friends receiver,
so they can advise you just how to do it, so they don't
get suspicious, and I think there is so much fraud, they
want to make sure the transfer of receivers is done on
the up and up.
Just call their tech support number, and they will inform
you of all the parts etc you need.
I have had bell express Vu for years, and have had nothing
but great satisfaction with them, they are so helpfull if
anything goes wrong with picture, and they have repair
advice online too, or right on the remote.
I have never been shafted or cheated by them, they have
changed my programming anytime I have requested it, with
lots of input and help from them.
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