A Jewish woman explains about the Quran better than many muslims

eanassir

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Sits....staring into the left eye of the Dajjal...

I explain about the words of petros
The Dajjal is the impostor who has one eye; the other eye is blindly distorted.
The "Dajjal" or the "impostor":

Abu Abd Allah said: he might be the English who came and occupied the countries with their cunning and deceit, and they see with one eye: they incline to Zionists other than Muslims.

Once he said: In fact there is a large number of impostors.

The "impostor" is mentioned as the anti-Mehdi personality or anti-Messieh, and there are many traditions about him; in the Quran such Dajjal or impostor is not mentioned.

petros, not all people are like you: atheists; I don't say she converted (although some Jews in fact convert every now and then)

About Paradise, see here:
Paradise (or the Garden)
Description of the Gardens (or the Paradises)
Trees of Paradise
 
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eanassir

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About the ambiguous ayat of the Quran; see this link in Arabic
المتشابه من القرآن 1

Moreover, I explained before about the ambiguous ayat in the Quran: which were as a challenge to people to solve the puzzles included in the Quran, and that these puzzles will be solved in the future.

As God -be exalted- said in the Quran 38: 88
وَلَتَعْلَمُنَّ نَبَأَهُ بَعْدَ حِينٍ
The explanation:
( And you [people] shall surely come to know, after a time, the truth thereof.)

It means after a period of time.
http://www.quran-ayat.com/conflicts/english3.htm#___A_The_Abrogation_

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Paradise and the "hoori"

Paradise is ethereal, its trees are ethereal, its dwellers are ethereal, its 'hoori' (nymphs or virgins of Paradise) are the daughters of the dwellers of the Worldly life, and its boys are the children of the dwellers of the World, i.e. their ethereal souls.

Therefore, sons of disbelievers that die before attaining their adulthood, will be servants of the Paradise dwellers, and similarly the girls; while the daughters of believers are the 'hoori' whom the Paradise dwellers will marry.

While children of believers, each one of them will stay with his parents [that are righteous believers] in Paradise, and they will play with them and will be delighted with them; that is because the souls of children will not become old following their separation from the bodies, but they will remain as they were at the time of their death.

God - be exalted - said in the Quran 43: 70

ادْخُلُواالْجَنَّةَأَنتُمْوَأَزْوَاجُكُمْتُحْبَرُونَ

The explanation:
(Enter happily, into Paradise, together with your wives.)

Paradise (or the Garden)
 

damngrumpy

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The Bible, the Koran, the Holy Books if the Jewish Faith, all preach that they are superior
and the chosen ones and all you have to do is be believers in the faith and no harm will in
fact come to you and yours. It is all political justification using religion, and we live in the
21ST century and we know this, yet we bow our heads and pray to the same instruments
of power that got us to where we are now.
The Christians of the Middle Ages were nothing more than barbarians who murdered the
Islamic peoples in a series of blood baths, convert or die. was the order of the day.
Before that the Israelites killed their neighbours like flies and occupied the lands of their enemy.
Now it is the turn of the Muslims, they are doing the same insane crap that everyone else has
and they justify it by its God's will. Sure it is. People have to not only read these ancient texts,
they have to read between the lines and understand these old traditional ways are meant for
control of the masses and it works very well.
I do not condemn those who believe or do not believe, we have the right to believe what ever we
want. But we should know what is going on around us.
 

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awesome video, feel good hit of the summer

"Feel good" is a great way to describe most TED talks. They are the amateur intellectual's version of the political soundbite. This woman told her audience exactly what they wanted to hear without wasting too much time constructing any sort of complex argument and the audience adored her for it.
 

eanassir

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I do not condemn those who believe or do not believe, we have the right to believe what ever we
want. But we should know what is going on around us.

Right, damngrumpy. Here you are right, while your above sentences are wrong :)

In fact, God [with these revealed books] saved people from the darkness of ignorance to the light of guidance and devotion to God alone and to foresake the idols and idolatry and the "association with God".
 

Dexter Sinister

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I was most struck by something she said early on, about the nature of the language in the Quran, that it's like a poetic incantation that needs to be spoken aloud, felt rather than understood, and that the Quran is truly the Quran only in Arabic. On one level I understand that, I've read poetry in English that has a similar quality, but it also seems to me to mean that the full import of the Quran is available only to people who know Arabic, which in turn means the message will be forever unavailable to most people. Strikes me as a pretty ineffective way for a deity to send a message to humanity, from which I conclude that's not what it is.
 

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I thought the 'feel good hit' was what women feel when they're being stoned to death?
Compared to the number that are bombed to death by the Church in the modern crusades.

the full import of the Quran is available only to people who know Arabic, which in turn means the message will be forever unavailable to most people. Strikes me as a pretty ineffective way for a deity to send a message to humanity, from which I conclude that's not what it is.
I tend to agree with you on this and watching a vid can be one form of getting information to the point no questions that arise are ever going to be answered. From what I got as a first impression is that it is a Book of Psalms for Gentiles (or at least written in the same way)

In general, I've heard the very same thing said about the Torah, and one thing that seems to be in common with the two is the 'theme' that they only make sense if the words are in the original language and no (truly accurate) translation is asked for. However asking the presenter a question like how could a Jew or Muslim not be judged by the same rod that Jesus will use for the 7 Churches. The characteristics cover everybody alive, one single verse says it all, what you believe after reading that one is (most likely) the same view that you will have after reading 100 more passages. Normally I would identify the first Church with the RCC if only Gentiles were referenced, using the 12 Tribes also makes the verses just as effective if used to describe that group from the time they were taken captive into the Nations in 70AD. They alone are under tribulation from then until the actual return and at that time all her troubles come to an end once Christ has resurrected the ones missing from the whole House of Israel.

The NT is not formatted to be in song or understood only by a specific set of people, that doesn't mean it doesn't have guidelines about how to read and understand it. If anything the direct approach is too fast and easy, that is why it meets so much resistance, it ruins the mystism that Muslims and Jews have introduced into the God equation. The flood is no longer an event of global scale, it is really a fable meant to teach children some lesson about obedience (or something along that line). I prefre the NT version that allows for the God of the OT to accomplish all those events in the same scale as described if taken literally. The big reason is having a God in the OT as being a 'myth' also means the one in the prophecies in the NT.

The pin that it all hinges on is if Jesus rose from the literal grave or not, again something that is plainly stated in just a very few easy to understand words that would transcend 20,000 years of time as easily as it did 2,000 years ago.

1Co.15:32
If after the manner of men I have fought with beasts at Ephesus,
what advantageth it me,
if the dead rise not?
let us eat and drink;
for to morrow we die.


The verse that puts everybody into some portion of the 7 Churches.

Re.1:7
Behold,
he cometh with clouds;
and every eye shall see him,
and they also which pierced him:
and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him.
Even so,
Amen.
 

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Why would Gentiles be referenced, by any of the 12 Tribes, followers of Jesus were outcasts, some undoubtedly were from the tribes of Israel. The law of the Torah only applied to believers of the Jewish faith. (still does) Those outside the faith are gentiles or pagans of which Christians are just a part of.
 

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The Gospel was still taken to the Synagogues in various Nations before being preached to the Gentiles in those same Nations. The persecution they faced was still directed by those running the Temple in Jerusalem. The only Law brought forward was the 10 Commandments, if Peter was given new instructions about what was clean food before he preached to the Gentiles then those dietary rules changed for everybody who belongs to the 12 Tribes. Some will accept that and others will demand the old dietary laws still be enforced. If they deny the change then they would seem to be denying instructions from Jesus. That makes them part of the ones that fit the group identified in Matthew 23.

God has every man determined for judgment, nobody is 'outside the faith'. lol Gentile may be gathered last but at least we never have to go through being a widow.

Heb.9:27
And as it is appointed unto men once to die,
but after this the judgment: