The Gathering and the Judgment will be in the space

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The Gathering and the Judgment will be in the space

The next Doomsday will involve the solar system as a whole: the sun and the planets and the moons.

So it is in the space of the destroyed solar system (our present solar system): will the gathering-together and the Judgment be.

How is that?
It is like a wasp-hive stuck to the ceiling of a room , then someone comes and hits that hive with a stone, so it will be broken up into many pieces and fall down, then the wasps will scatter in the space of the room; because no place will be left for them to hide in.

Similarly, on Doomsday when the earth will break up into many pieces which will scatter in the space, then the souls hiding in the graves, fissures and subterranean caverns will get out (because no hiding place will be left for them to hide in) and the souls will gather in the space of that destroyed solar system.

Then the Judgment and recompense will also be there in the space.

God - be exalted - said in the Quran 42: 47

اسْتَجِيبُوا لِرَبِّكُم مِّن قَبْلِ أَن يَأْتِيَ يَوْمٌ لَّامَرَدَّ لَهُ مِنَ اللَّهِ مَا لَكُم مِّن مَّلْجَأٍ يَوْمَئِذٍ وَمَا لَكُم مِّن نَّكِيرٍ

The explanation:
(Defer to your Lord [O people] before the day will come of which there will be no averting by God; there will be no shelter for you on that day; nor will have you any disguise [: You will come to Us naked.)

His saying - be exalted -مَا لَكُم مِّن مَّلْجَأٍ يَوْمَئِذٍ i.e. (there will be no shelter for you on that day); because the Earth will break up, and no shelter will remain for them; so that they will scatter in the space.

God - be exalted - said in the Quran 54: 7

يَخْرُجُونَ مِنَ الْأَجْدَاثِ كَأَنَّهُمْ جَرَادٌ مُّنتَشِرٌ

The explanation:
( They will come forth from graves like locusts scattered abroad.)

It means:
Souls will scatter in the space, like how locusts scatter in the sky when they come [in large number] to a country or to a farm.



NB: The simulation of {the gathering-together of souls for the Judgment and requital in the space} to {the locust swarms in the sky} is a very terrifying scene.

Moreover, the locust flying in the sky will extend its legs behind it and will appear from faraway like the naked man flying in the space. See the images of the locust swarms in the links above.

Moreover, God - be exalted - said in the Quran 36: 51
وَنُفِخَ فِي الصُّورِ فَإِذَا هُم مِّنَ الْأَجْدَاثِ إِلَى رَبِّهِمْ يَنسِلُونَ

The explanation:
(And when the 'Horn' will be blown; behold, they will go up, from the graves, in crowds, to their Lord [: to the gathering-together in the space.] )

It means: They will ascend to Him in heaven.

However, there are many ayat that speak in the same way, and for more details refer to the books: (Man after Death) and (The Universe and the Quran) by Mohammed-Ali Hassan al-Hilly.
 
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eanassir - That's some interesting stuff! .. I wrote a sci/fi fantasy on a similar subject... More about the future of the human race(with suttle moral under tones, of course ) .. a story for all to enjoy and ponder ....Will be out sometime in the near future ..

Religion - what ITt was

Politics - What ITs Is Now (to our understanding)

Science - What ITt will be ( figure out the truth)

According to us Human animals

Animals/Humans/Angels .. Where are we now?....I believe the majority still lay between Animals /Humans ...However there are a few at the Human/Angels stage...

.Keep listen for those trumpets - Between me a you ...I think the Birds are Big"G"'s spies...;-):smile:
 

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Greenfish, when I was young, I thought Doomsday will involve all the universe, when God will destroy everything and everybeing, then He will alone remain; then He will recreate the creation once again to judge them according to His promise.

But then when I read the books of Abu abd-Allah and met him, I knew that the Doomsday will be confined to the solar system: the sun, the earth together with the planets and moons. And there will be no resurrection of bodies; but only spirits and souls will live forever, and will be punished or rewarded.

Once I read the aya 54: 7 (which is in the first post here), I asked him: the locusts spread on the land or the field? He said: No, the locust is flying in the air.
Therefore, I imagined a horrible scene of people in the "gathering together" for Judgment and requital; as I gave in the links above in the first post here.

I saw the swarms of locust, when it comes in large number: it came in clouds that covers the sun disc; and there are many other photos on the net; if anyone is interested.

Another simulation in the Quran is that such assembly or gathering will be like the moths flying around the lamp.

This is in the Quran 101: 4
يَوْمَ يَكُونُ النَّاسُ كَالْفَرَاشِ الْمَبْثُوثِ
The explanation:
( The day when people shall be like scattered moths.)
The 'moths' are the insects which fly around the lamp at night.
 

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The Gathering and the Judgment will be in the space

The next Doomsday will involve the solar system as a whole: the sun and the planets and the moons.

So it is in the space of the destroyed solar system (our present solar system): will the gathering-together and the Judgment be.

How is that?
It is like a wasp-hive stuck to the ceiling of a room , then someone comes and hits that hive with a stone, so it will be broken up into many pieces and fall down, then the wasps will scatter in the space of the room; because no place will be left for them to hide in.

Similarly, on Doomsday when the earth will break up into many pieces which will scatter in the space, then the souls hiding in the graves, fissures and subterranean caverns will get out (because no hiding place will be left for them to hide in) and the souls will gather in the space of that destroyed solar system.

Then the Judgment and recompense will also be there in the space.

God - be exalted - said in the Quran 42: 47

اسْتَجِيبُوا لِرَبِّكُم مِّن قَبْلِ أَن يَأْتِيَ يَوْمٌ لَّامَرَدَّ لَهُ مِنَ اللَّهِ مَا لَكُم مِّن مَّلْجَأٍ يَوْمَئِذٍ وَمَا لَكُم مِّن نَّكِيرٍ

The explanation:
(Defer to your Lord [O people] before the day will come of which there will be no averting by God; there will be no shelter for you on that day; nor will have you any disguise [: You will come to Us naked.)

His saying - be exalted -مَا لَكُم مِّن مَّلْجَأٍ يَوْمَئِذٍ i.e. (there will be no shelter for you on that day); because the Earth will break up, and no shelter will remain for them; so that they will scatter in the space.

God - be exalted - said in the Quran 54: 7

يَخْرُجُونَ مِنَ الْأَجْدَاثِ كَأَنَّهُمْ جَرَادٌ مُّنتَشِرٌ

The explanation:
( They will come forth from graves like locusts scattered abroad.)

It means:
Souls will scatter in the space, like how locusts scatter in the sky when they come [in large number] to a country or to a farm.



NB: The simulation of {the gathering-together of souls for the Judgment and requital in the space} to {the locust swarms in the sky} is a very terrifying scene.

Moreover, the locust flying in the sky will extend its legs behind it and will appear from faraway like the naked man flying in the space. See the images of the locust swarms in the links above.

Moreover, God - be exalted - said in the Quran 36: 51
وَنُفِخَ فِي الصُّورِ فَإِذَا هُم مِّنَ الْأَجْدَاثِ إِلَى رَبِّهِمْ يَنسِلُونَ

The explanation:
(And when the 'Horn' will be blown; behold, they will go up, from the graves, in crowds, to their Lord [: to the gathering-together in the space.] )

It means: They will ascend to Him in heaven.

However, there are many ayat that speak in the same way, and for more details refer to the books: (Man after Death) and (The Universe and the Quran) by Mohammed-Ali Hassan al-Hilly.

eanassir: There are online AUTHORIZED English translations of the book of beauty
Since the majority here are none Arabic, do them the courtesy of providing them with understandable links so they have the option to research
Or are you here to irritate them?
 

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Yeah, me too. He made huge efforts that utterly failed, told us he was leaving CC after doing all he felt he could do here (despite utterly failing at it), then came back a few months later with more of the same nonsense, pretending the Quran is a science text. Beats me what he thinks he can achieve. He also told somebody, Cliffy I think it was, in another thread that he doesn't hang around with infidels, which would suggest he shouldn't be here at all, there have been very few posters here that he wouldn't consider to be infidels. And he couldn't agree with them either.
 
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The earth will tear up, on Doomsday, then souls will be forced to get out of their hiding places:

God -be glorified - said in the Quran 50: 44
يَوْمَ تَشَقَّقُ الأرْضُ عَنْهُمْ سِرَاعًا ذَلِكَ حَشْرٌ عَلَيْنَا يَسِيرٌ

The explanation:
(On the day when the earth will split up [and part] off them, hastening forth [they will come] – that will be a gathering together, which will be quite easy to Us [to make.] )

It means: It will split up and part off the souls; because the souls will be inside the Earth, i.e. inside the graves.

So, when it will break up, they will leave it and scatter in the space, then the ‘gathering-together’ or the ‘congregation’ will take place there in the space of the torn up solar system.

This is indicated by His saying -be exalted - ذَلِكَ حَشْرٌ عَلَيْنَا يَسِيرٌ i.e. (that will be a gathering together, which will be quite easy to Us [to make.] )

This also is indicated by His saying - be exalted - in the Quran 4: 42
يَوْمَئِذٍ يَوَدُّ الَّذِينَ كَفَرُوا وَعَصَوْا الرَّسُولَ لَوْ تُسَوَّى بِهِمْ الأَرْضُ وَلا يَكْتُمُونَ اللهَ حَدِيثًا

The explanation:
(On that day, those who disbelieved and disobeyed the Apostle [: the Messenger] would fain that the earth were rearranged and leveled with them, but they can hide no fact from God.)

The interpretation:
( that the earth were rearranged and leveled with them) means: They wish that the earth will return as it was [before its splitting and breaking up], so that it will compact and reunite after its splitting, so they may disappear inside it, just as how were they hiding in their graves;

and they wish there will neither be any gathering-together nor any judgment.

But when the Earth will split and they will become without refuge, and will see the gathering-together and the Judgment; at that time they will wish such a wishing.
 

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The earth will tear up, on Doomsday, then souls will be forced to get out of their hiding places:

God -be glorified - said in the Quran 50: 44
يَوْمَ تَشَقَّقُ الأرْضُ عَنْهُمْ سِرَاعًا ذَلِكَ حَشْرٌ عَلَيْنَا يَسِيرٌ

The explanation:
(On the day when the earth will split up [and part] off them, hastening forth [they will come] – that will be a gathering together, which will be quite easy to Us [to make.] )

It means: It will split up and part off the souls; because the souls will be inside the Earth, i.e. inside the graves.

So, when it will break up, they will leave it and scatter in the space, then the ‘gathering-together’ or the ‘congregation’ will take place there in the space of the torn up solar system.

This is indicated by His saying -be exalted - ذَلِكَ حَشْرٌ عَلَيْنَا يَسِيرٌ i.e. (that will be a gathering together, which will be quite easy to Us [to make.] )

This also is indicated by His saying - be exalted - in the Quran 4: 42
يَوْمَئِذٍ يَوَدُّ الَّذِينَ كَفَرُوا وَعَصَوْا الرَّسُولَ لَوْ تُسَوَّى بِهِمْ الأَرْضُ وَلا يَكْتُمُونَ اللهَ حَدِيثًا

The explanation:
(On that day, those who disbelieved and disobeyed the Apostle [: the Messenger] would fain that the earth were rearranged and leveled with them, but they can hide no fact from God.)

The interpretation:
( that the earth were rearranged and leveled with them) means: They wish that the earth will return as it was [before its splitting and breaking up], so that it will compact and reunite after its splitting, so they may disappear inside it, just as how were they hiding in their graves;

and they wish there will neither be any gathering-together nor any judgment.

But when the Earth will split and they will become without refuge, and will see the gathering-together and the Judgment; at that time they will wish such a wishing.

As I said Ean, is happened last Thursday. Apparently your blasphemous reinterpretations of the "holy book" made you inadmissable to paradise.

Better luck next universe.
 

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I'm just wondering who he thinks he's converting. lmao

Is this some sort of self defense: you are afraid lest you should convert. Or at least you try to impede the Quran and hinder people from listening to the word of God in the Quran.

Truly I am not intending to let you or others convert or not; I am only a sower of seeds, and it depends on the land which will receive such seeds.

In addition, I am not one of you; so I think I am not very much zealous to let you believe: if you believe or not it is the same to me. And I understand why God - be glorified - sent the apostle out of his people: i.e. he is one of them: so that he will have much desire to convet them to the religion of God, and he will feel sorry why they do not believe.

This is in the Quran 23: 32
فَأَرْسَلْنَا فِيهِمْ رَسُولًا مِنْهُمْ أَنِ اعْبُدُوا اللَّهَ مَا لَكُم مِّنْ إِلَهٍ غَيْرُهُ أَفَلَا تَتَّقُونَ
The explanation:
(And We sent among them a messenger, [one] of them;

he said: "Serve God; you have no god but He; will you not then ward off [the doom of God]?")


And I may later on write a thread about the essential features of the apostle of God.
 

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Is this some sort of self defense: you are afraid lest you should convert. Or at least you try to impede the Quran and hinder people from listening to the word of God in the Quran.
Nope. You couldn't convert me.
It just looks to me that your posting the scribble from the Quran and the interpretations of it isn't doing anything other than taking up posting space. But, you go ahead and post all you want. I'm pretty sure that you won't find one single convert.

Truly I am not intending to let you or others convert or not; I am only a sower of seeds, and it depends on the land which will receive such seeds.
A lot of people are affronted by proselytising, though. They feel it is insulting. Others simply find it comical (that would be people like me). And yet others find it worth discussing (that would be people like Les).

In addition, I am not one of you; so I think I am not very much zealous to let you believe: if you believe or not it is the same to me. And I understand why God - be glorified - sent the apostle out of his people: i.e. he is one of them: so that he will have much desire to convet them to the religion of God, and he will feel sorry why they do not believe.
Yeah. I can understand that. I feel sorry when I am a failure at something, too.

This is in the Quran 23: 32
فَأَرْسَلْنَا فِيهِمْ رَسُولًا مِنْهُمْ أَنِ اعْبُدُوا اللَّهَ مَا لَكُم مِّنْ إِلَهٍ غَيْرُهُ أَفَلَا تَتَّقُونَ
The explanation:
(And We sent among them a messenger, [one] of them;

he said: "Serve God; you have no god but He; will you not then ward off [the doom of God]?")


And I may later on write a thread about the essential features of the apostle of God.
Cool. And this is from the Anishinaabe:
Fisher was a great hunter. He was not big, but he was known for his determination and was regarded as one with great power. Fisher's son wanted to be a great hunter also. One day the son went out to try to catch something. It was not easy, for the snow was very deep and it was very cold everywhere. In those days it was always winter on the Earth and there was no such thing as warm weather. The son hunted a long time with no luck. Finally, though, he saw a squirrel. As quietly as he could he sneaked up and then pounced, catching the squirrel between his paws. Before he could kill it, though, the squirrel spoke to him.
"Grandson," said the squirrel, "don't kill me. I can give you some good advice."
"Speak then," said the young fisher.
"I see that you are shivering from the cold. If you do what I tell you, we may all enjoy warm weather. Then it will be easy for all of us to find food and not starve as we are doing now."
"Tell me what to do, Grandfather," the young fisher said, letting the squirrel go.
The squirrel climbed quickly up onto a high branch and then spoke again. "Go home and say nothing. Just sit down in your lodge and begin to weep. Your mother will ask you what is wrong, but you must not answer her. If she tries to comfort you or give you food, you must refuse it. When your father comes home, he will ask you why you are weeping. Then you can speak. Tell him the winds are too cold and the snow is too deep. Tell him that he must bring warm weather to the Earth."
So the young fisher went home. He sat in the corner of the lodge and cried. His mother asked what was wrong, but he did not answer. She offered him food, but he pushed it away. When his father returned and saw his only son weeping, he went to his side.
" What is wrong, son?" Fisher said.
Then the young fisher said what the squirrel had told him to say. " I am weeping because the wind is too cold and the snow is too deep. We are all starving because of the winter. I want you to use your powers to bring the warm weather."
"The thing you are asking of me is hard to do," said Fisher, "but you are right. I will do all I can to grant your wish."
Then Fisher had a great feast. He invited all of his friends and told them what he planned to do. "I am going to the place where the skyland is closest to the Earth," he said. "There in the skyland the people have all the warm weather. I intend to go there to bring some of that warm weather back. Then snow will go away and we will have plenty to eat."
All of Fisher's friends were pleased and offered to go with him. So when Fisher set out, he took the strongest of his friends along. Those friends were Otter, Lynx and Wolverine.
The four of them traveled for a long time through the snow. They went toward the mountains, higher and higher each day. Fisher had with him a pack filled with dried venison and they slept at night buried under the snow. At last, after many, many days, they came to the highest mountain and climbed to its top. Then Fisher took a pipe and tobacco out of his pouch.
"We must offer our smoke to the Four Directions," Fisher said. The four of them smoked and sent their prayers to Gitchee Manitou, asking for success.
The sky was very close above them, but they had to find some way to break through into the land above. "We must jump up," Said Fisher. "Who will go first?"
"I will try," said Otter. He leaped up and struck the sky but did not break through. Instead he fell back and slid on his belly all the way to the bottom of the mountain. To this day all otters slide like that in the snow.
"Now it is my turn," said Lynx. He jumped too, striking hard against the sky and falling back unconscious. Fisher tried then, but even he did not have enough power.
"Now it is your turn," said Fisher to Wolverine. "You are the strongest of us all."
Wolverine leaped. He struck hard against the sky and fell back, but he did not give up. He leaped again and again until he had made a crack in the sky. Once more he leaped and finally broke through. Fisher jumped through the hole in the sky after him.
The skyland was a beautiful place. It was warm and sunny, and there were plants and flowers of all kinds growing. They could hear the singing of birds all around them, but they could see no people. They went farther and found many long lodges. When they looked inside, they found that there were cages in the lodges. Each cage held a different bird.
"These will make for fine hunting," Fisher said. "Let us set them free."
Quickly Wolverine and Fisher chewed through the rawhide that bound the cages together and freed the birds. The birds all flew down through the hole in the sky. so there are many kinds of birds in the world today.
Wolverine and Fisher now began to make the hole in the skyland bigger. The warmth of the skyland began to fall through the hole and the land below began to grow warmer. The snow began to melt and the grass and plants beneath the snow began to turn green.
But the sky people came out when they saw what was happening. They ran toward Wolverine and Fisher, shouting loudly. "Thieves," they shouted. "Stop taking our warm weather!"
Wolverine jumped back through the hole to escape, but Fisher kept making the hole bigger. He knew that if he didn't make it big enough, the sky people would quickly close the hole again and it would be winter again in the land below. He chewed the hole larger and larger. Finally, just when the sky people were very close, he stopped.
The hole was big enough for enough warm weather for half of the year to escape through, but it was not big enough for enough warm weather to last all the time. That is why the winter still comes back every year. Fisher knew that the sky people might try to close the hole in the sky. He had to take their attention away from it and so he taunted them.
"I am Fisher, the great hunter," he said. "You cannot catch me." Then he ran to the tallest tree in the skyland. All the sky people ran after him. Just as they were about to grab him, he leaped up into the tree and climbed to the highest branches, where no one could follow.
At first the sky people did not know what to do. Then they began to shoot arrows at him. But Fisher wasn't hurt, for he had a special power. There was only one place on his tail where an arrow could kill him. Finally, though, the sky people guessed where his magic was and shot at that place. An arrow struck the fatal spot. Fisher turned over on his back and began to fall.
But Fisher never struck the Earth. Gitchee Manitou took pity on him because he had kept his promise and done something to help all the people. Gitchee Manitou placed Fisher high up in the sky among the stars.
If you look up into the sky, you can still see him, even though some people call that pattern of stars The Big Dipper. Every year he crosses the sky. When the arrow strikes him, he rolls over onto his back in the winter sky. But when the winter is almost ended, he faithfully turns to his feet and starts out once more on his long journey to bring the warm weather back to the Earth.
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Certainly I cannot convert you, and you yourself cannot convert unless God likes it.
This is in the Quran10: 100
وَمَا كَانَ لِنَفْسٍ أَن تُؤْمِنَ إِلاَّ بِإِذْنِ اللّهِ وَيَجْعَلُ الرِّجْسَ عَلَى الَّذِينَ لاَ يَعْقِلُونَ

The explanation:
(It is not for any soul to believe save by God's leave; and He lays [psychological] illness on those who do not think.)​

About you, truly, I am not willing to do this; but only to address others who read your and my replies.​

And you will not believe unless God likes it; this is according to the aya 6: 110-111​
وَنُقَلِّبُ أَفْئِدَتَهُمْ وَأَبْصَارَهُمْ كَمَا لَمْ يُؤْمِنُواْ بِهِ أَوَّلَ مَرَّةٍ وَنَذَرُهُمْ فِي طُغْيَانِهِمْ يَعْمَهُونَ . وَلَوْ أَنَّنَا نَزَّلْنَا إِلَيْهِمُ الْمَلآئِكَةَ وَكَلَّمَهُمُ الْمَوْتَى وَحَشَرْنَا عَلَيْهِمْ كُلَّ شَيْءٍ قُبُلاً مَّا كَانُواْ لِيُؤْمِنُواْ إِلاَّ أَن يَشَاء اللّهُ وَلَـكِنَّ أَكْثَرَهُمْ يَجْهَلُونَ

The explanation:
(We shall turn about their [spiritual] hearts and their sights, even as they believed not in the [Quran] the first time [: before the believing of those weak and poor men whom they despise],​

and We shall leave them to wander blindly in their insolence.​

But eventhough We should send down the angels to them [to tell them that you are God's messenger],
and the dead should speak to them [that Mohammed is God's messenger],
and We should gathered together all [beasts] coming forth to them [and speak to them that you, Mohammed, are God's messenger]​

they would not believe [in you, Mohammed, but they would have said that they are bewitched] unless God so willed [: to guide them aright.]​

Nevertheless, most of them are ignorant [of the final consequences of miracles: that they will be destroyed if they do not believe.])
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Moreover, the chance of believing for those who hinder and impede people from believing will be more immersion in the disbelief and infidelity; this is according to the Quran 6: 26
وَهُمْ يَنْهَوْنَ عَنْهُ وَيَنْأَوْنَ عَنْهُ وَإِن يُهْلِكُونَ إِلاَّ أَنفُسَهُمْ وَمَا يَشْعُرُونَ

The explanation:
(And they forbid [men] from[listening to] the [Quran], and keep afar from it [lest they should discern its truthfulness and believe];

but only they destroy themselves [with this keeping afar from listening to the Quran] although they are not aware [of that.])
 
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Certainly I cannot convert you, and you yourself cannot convert unless God likes it.
This is in the Quran10: 100
وَمَا كَانَ لِنَفْسٍ أَن تُؤْمِنَ إِلاَّ بِإِذْنِ اللّهِ وَيَجْعَلُ الرِّجْسَ عَلَى الَّذِينَ لاَ يَعْقِلُونَ

The explanation:
(It is not for any soul to believe save by God's leave; and He lays [psychological] illness on those who do not think.)​

About you, truly, I am not willing to do this; but only to address others who read your and my replies.​

And you will not believe unless God likes it; this is according to the aya 6: 110-111​
وَنُقَلِّبُ أَفْئِدَتَهُمْ وَأَبْصَارَهُمْ كَمَا لَمْ يُؤْمِنُواْ بِهِ أَوَّلَ مَرَّةٍ وَنَذَرُهُمْ فِي طُغْيَانِهِمْ يَعْمَهُونَ . وَلَوْ أَنَّنَا نَزَّلْنَا إِلَيْهِمُ الْمَلآئِكَةَ وَكَلَّمَهُمُ الْمَوْتَى وَحَشَرْنَا عَلَيْهِمْ كُلَّ شَيْءٍ قُبُلاً مَّا كَانُواْ لِيُؤْمِنُواْ إِلاَّ أَن يَشَاء اللّهُ وَلَـكِنَّ أَكْثَرَهُمْ يَجْهَلُونَ

The explanation:
(We shall turn about their [spiritual] hearts and their sights, even as they believed not in the [Quran] the first time [: before the believing of those weak and poor men whom they despise],​

and We shall leave them to wander blindly in their insolence.​

But eventhough We should send down the angels to them [to tell them that you are God's messenger],
and the dead should speak to them [that Mohammed is God's messenger],
and We should gathered together all [beasts] coming forth to them [and speak to them that you, Mohammed, are God's messenger]​

they would not believe [in you, Mohammed, but they would have said that they are bewitched] unless God so willed [: to guide them aright.]​

Nevertheless, most of them are ignorant [of the final consequences of miracles: that they will be destroyed if they do not believe.])
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Moreover, the chance of believing for those who hinder and impede people from believing will be more immersion in the disbelief and infidelity; this is according to the Quran 6: 26
وَهُمْ يَنْهَوْنَ عَنْهُ وَيَنْأَوْنَ عَنْهُ وَإِن يُهْلِكُونَ إِلاَّ أَنفُسَهُمْ وَمَا يَشْعُرُونَ

The explanation:
(And they forbid [men] from
[listening to] the [Quran], and keep afar from it [lest they should discern its truthfulness and believe]
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but only they destroy themselves [with this keeping afar from listening to the Quran] although they are not aware [of that.])
So you think anyone here cares?As far as I can tell, people here already have their viewpoints and you are just another one. The difference being is that some people here don't follow religious dogma and so they question its validity. Those are the ones that think. Following requires only listening or reading and blindly accepting.