Time Out
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February 20th, 2008, 05:50 PM
I was once a practising,maybe even devout Catholic.
Now I'm an atheist.I think there are many more atheists in society than most folks know; out of not wanting to offend anyone or being somewhat and somehow almost ashamed of saying so, most people don't say anything at all.Just my feeling - I have no empirical evidence to demonstrate that.
But I have a proposition that I hope to prove and hope it begins a worthwhile discussion,
hopefully shedding more light than heat.
It is ; the Christian Bible, whatever translation you are fond of, is hate literature. It portrays a vengeful,schizophrenic, murderous and petty God taking his revenge on his own creation. I will demonstrate that Scripture describes God's hatred of women, humans born in colonizing environments, slaves, children, homosexuals, and a host of other minorities.
I hope to prove that no such entity as we know as God could reasonably, rationally exist; that the so-called creator and ruler of the universe could be a perverse, egotistical meglomaniac as described in the Holy Scripture he inspired. The Bible is a ficticious creation of silly, incoherent and hateful goat herder myths and fables that SHOULD be apparent for it's foolishness, but is instead seen as his holy word.
This isn't a one time rant/post - I mean to prove what I say by using the very text so many Christians assert as a a HOLY BIBLE.
You will see posts from me under this thread in days to come and hope you are up to the challenge of defending your faith.
I was once a practising,maybe even devout Catholic.
Now I'm an atheist.I think there are many more atheists in society than most folks know; out of not wanting to offend anyone or being somewhat and somehow almost ashamed of saying so, most people don't say anything at all.Just my feeling - I have no empirical evidence to demonstrate that.
But I have a proposition that I hope to prove and hope it begins a worthwhile discussion,
hopefully shedding more light than heat.
It is ; the Christian Bible, whatever translation you are fond of, is hate literature. It portrays a vengeful,schizophrenic, murderous and petty God taking his revenge on his own creation. I will demonstrate that Scripture describes God's hatred of women, humans born in colonizing environments, slaves, children, homosexuals, and a host of other minorities.
I hope to prove that no such entity as we know as God could reasonably, rationally exist; that the so-called creator and ruler of the universe could be a perverse, egotistical meglomaniac as described in the Holy Scripture he inspired. The Bible is a ficticious creation of silly, incoherent and hateful goat herder myths and fables that SHOULD be apparent for it's foolishness, but is instead seen as his holy word.
This isn't a one time rant/post - I mean to prove what I say by using the very text so many Christians assert as a a HOLY BIBLE.
You will see posts from me under this thread in days to come and hope you are up to the challenge of defending your faith.
February 20th, 2008, 08:08 PM
Quoting mrgrumpy
Why would anyone bother when you're clearly not here to discuss, but rather to preach your belief system? Seems like a waste of time for everyone involved.
You will see posts from me under this thread in days to come and hope you are up to the challenge of defending your faith.
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February 20th, 2008, 11:22 PM
We are not the potter, but the potter's clay.
Quoting mrgrumpy
Ah, but when did you become all-knowing, omnipotent, and qualified to sit in judgement of God?
I was once a practising,maybe even devout Catholic.
Now I'm an atheist.I think there are many more atheists in society than most folks know; out of not wanting to offend anyone or being somewhat and somehow almost ashamed of saying so, most people don't say anything at all.Just my feeling - I have no empirical evidence to demonstrate that.
But I have a proposition that I hope to prove and hope it begins a worthwhile discussion,
hopefully shedding more light than heat.
It is ; the Christian Bible, whatever translation you are fond of, is hate literature. It portrays a vengeful,schizophrenic, murderous and petty God taking his revenge on his own creation. I will demonstrate that Scripture describes God's hatred of women, humans born in colonizing environments, slaves, children, homosexuals, and a host of other minorities.
I hope to prove that no such entity as we know as God could reasonably, rationally exist; that the so-called creator and ruler of the universe could be a perverse, egotistical meglomaniac as described in the Holy Scripture he inspired. The Bible is a ficticious creation of silly, incoherent and hateful goat herder myths and fables that SHOULD be apparent for it's foolishness, but is instead seen as his holy word.
This isn't a one time rant/post - I mean to prove what I say by using the very text so many Christians assert as a a HOLY BIBLE.
You will see posts from me under this thread in days to come and hope you are up to the challenge of defending your faith.
Now I'm an atheist.I think there are many more atheists in society than most folks know; out of not wanting to offend anyone or being somewhat and somehow almost ashamed of saying so, most people don't say anything at all.Just my feeling - I have no empirical evidence to demonstrate that.
But I have a proposition that I hope to prove and hope it begins a worthwhile discussion,
hopefully shedding more light than heat.
It is ; the Christian Bible, whatever translation you are fond of, is hate literature. It portrays a vengeful,schizophrenic, murderous and petty God taking his revenge on his own creation. I will demonstrate that Scripture describes God's hatred of women, humans born in colonizing environments, slaves, children, homosexuals, and a host of other minorities.
I hope to prove that no such entity as we know as God could reasonably, rationally exist; that the so-called creator and ruler of the universe could be a perverse, egotistical meglomaniac as described in the Holy Scripture he inspired. The Bible is a ficticious creation of silly, incoherent and hateful goat herder myths and fables that SHOULD be apparent for it's foolishness, but is instead seen as his holy word.
This isn't a one time rant/post - I mean to prove what I say by using the very text so many Christians assert as a a HOLY BIBLE.
You will see posts from me under this thread in days to come and hope you are up to the challenge of defending your faith.
We are not the potter, but the potter's clay.
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February 21st, 2008, 12:06 AM
Quoting Walter
I prefer to think that he's come to his senses. I keep hearing George Carlin on this subject. Would that be the same god who has a special list of ten rules he wants you to obey, and if you don't he's got a special place full of fire and smoke and pain where he'll send you to choke and scream and suffer for ever and ever until the end of time, while claiming that he loves you? Greatest BS story ever invented.
You're a back-slider. God still loves you.
Time Out
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February 21st, 2008, 02:52 AM
God the child killer.
So will I send thee upon you famine and evil hands and they shall bereave thee and pestilence and blood shall pass through thee: and I will bring the sword upon thee. I the LORD have spoken it. Ezekiel 5
And he went up from thence unto Bethel; and as he was going up by the way there came forth little children out of the city, and mock him and said to him , go forth they bald head, go forth they bald head.
And he turned back, and looked at them, and cursed them in the name of the LORD. And there came forth two she bears out of the wood, and tare forty and two children of them.2 Kings 2.
At midnite the LORD smote all the first born in the land of Egypt, from the first born of the Pharoah who sits on his throne, to the first born of the captive and all the first born of the cattle. Exodus 29,30
God the child killer.
So will I send thee upon you famine and evil hands and they shall bereave thee and pestilence and blood shall pass through thee: and I will bring the sword upon thee. I the LORD have spoken it. Ezekiel 5
And he went up from thence unto Bethel; and as he was going up by the way there came forth little children out of the city, and mock him and said to him , go forth they bald head, go forth they bald head.
And he turned back, and looked at them, and cursed them in the name of the LORD. And there came forth two she bears out of the wood, and tare forty and two children of them.2 Kings 2.
At midnite the LORD smote all the first born in the land of Egypt, from the first born of the Pharoah who sits on his throne, to the first born of the captive and all the first born of the cattle. Exodus 29,30
Super Genius
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February 21st, 2008, 06:18 AM
Quoting Dexter Sinister
I'll keep you in my prayers.
I prefer to think that he's come to his senses. I keep hearing George Carlin on this subject. Would that be the same god who has a special list of ten rules he wants you to obey, and if you don't he's got a special place full of fire and smoke and pain where he'll send you to choke and scream and suffer for ever and ever until the end of time, while claiming that he loves you? Greatest BS story ever invented.
Super Genius
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February 21st, 2008, 08:28 AM
Quoting darkbeaver
Sounds like a communist book burning rampage is about to happen; watch out, the intelligentsia is next.
The bible is rubbish, a totally nonsensicle piece of fictionalized crap that children should be encouraged to burned ban and spit upon. It's a killer and a con.
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February 21st, 2008, 09:33 AM
Richard Dawkins said religion was a virus. Dawkins argued that the widespread presence of religion despite its lack of obvious benefits suggests that it was not an evolutionary adaptation. Society provides a breeding ground for the "virus" of religion by labeling children with the religion of thier parents. Children , in turn, absorb these beliefs because they are conditioned to do so.
Religion is not widely beneficial and provides no help to adapt or survive.It is activly divisive and harmful. It's a viral cult of discrimination, racism and hate. Mankind is well advised to eliminate the evil practice once and forall by any and all means at hand.
Religion is a form of corercing obediance, a la Machiavelli.
Richard Dawkins said religion was a virus. Dawkins argued that the widespread presence of religion despite its lack of obvious benefits suggests that it was not an evolutionary adaptation. Society provides a breeding ground for the "virus" of religion by labeling children with the religion of thier parents. Children , in turn, absorb these beliefs because they are conditioned to do so.
Religion is not widely beneficial and provides no help to adapt or survive.It is activly divisive and harmful. It's a viral cult of discrimination, racism and hate. Mankind is well advised to eliminate the evil practice once and forall by any and all means at hand.
Religion is a form of corercing obediance, a la Machiavelli.
Super Genius
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Location: Alberta, Canada
Location: Alberta, Canada
February 21st, 2008, 09:39 AM
There's your answer s_lone.... all from the OT, which would be fine if he was going after the Jews.
Quoting mrgrumpy
God the child killer.
So will I send thee upon you famine and evil hands and they shall bereave thee and pestilence and blood shall pass through thee: and I will bring the sword upon thee. I the LORD have spoken it. Ezekiel 5
And he went up from thence unto Bethel; and as he was going up by the way there came forth little children out of the city, and mock him and said to him , go forth they bald head, go forth they bald head.
And he turned back, and looked at them, and cursed them in the name of the LORD. And there came forth two she bears out of the wood, and tare forty and two children of them.2 Kings 2.
At midnite the LORD smote all the first born in the land of Egypt, from the first born of the Pharoah who sits on his throne, to the first born of the captive and all the first born of the cattle. Exodus 29,30
So will I send thee upon you famine and evil hands and they shall bereave thee and pestilence and blood shall pass through thee: and I will bring the sword upon thee. I the LORD have spoken it. Ezekiel 5
And he went up from thence unto Bethel; and as he was going up by the way there came forth little children out of the city, and mock him and said to him , go forth they bald head, go forth they bald head.
And he turned back, and looked at them, and cursed them in the name of the LORD. And there came forth two she bears out of the wood, and tare forty and two children of them.2 Kings 2.
At midnite the LORD smote all the first born in the land of Egypt, from the first born of the Pharoah who sits on his throne, to the first born of the captive and all the first born of the cattle. Exodus 29,30
There's your answer s_lone.... all from the OT, which would be fine if he was going after the Jews.
Super Genius
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February 21st, 2008, 10:39 AM
Quoting darkbeaver
No, that is not correct to my knowledge. You could very well live under the Nazi regime and not believe in or accept their ideology. As long as you didn't actively oppose them, you were left in peace.
"Believe in me and obey me or else I will destroy you" No choice eh. Pure and simple Nazi ideology.
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February 21st, 2008, 10:53 AM
Quoting darkbeaver
A bit of freewill on the school yard too. Give me your lunch money or I'll punch you head in. Not to put too fine a point on this.
"Believe in me and obey me or else I will destroy you" No choice eh. Pure and simple Nazi ideology.
Super Genius
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February 21st, 2008, 11:19 AM
All that we have invented , the symbols in the churches, the rituals ,they are all put there by thought . Thought has invented these things,invented the saviours, invented the churches ,the temples with its contents.Thought has invented all theses things called sacred....YOU CAN NOT DENY THAT !
So thought in itself is not sacred and when thought invents God(s)...God is not sacred.What is Sacred??? That can only be understood or happen when there is a complete freeedom from fear, sorrow and when there is the sense of love and compassion with its own intelligence .
Then when the mind is utterly still that which is sacred can take place .
All that we have invented , the symbols in the churches, the rituals ,they are all put there by thought . Thought has invented these things,invented the saviours, invented the churches ,the temples with its contents.Thought has invented all theses things called sacred....YOU CAN NOT DENY THAT !
So thought in itself is not sacred and when thought invents God(s)...God is not sacred.What is Sacred??? That can only be understood or happen when there is a complete freeedom from fear, sorrow and when there is the sense of love and compassion with its own intelligence .
Then when the mind is utterly still that which is sacred can take place .
