Why did God say: Let us give Satan to mankind?


French Patriot
#1
Why did God say: Let us give Satan to mankind?

God created Eden as his heaven on Earth so that he could, some day come down and rule over us.

He cast Satan out of heaven. I guess because she was creating a huge division there, and decided to send her to Earth, to also create division here, which she did.

Why would a good God curse the Earth by sending Satan, the personification of evil, to Earth?

Regards
DL
 
Danbones
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judging by the way they pass the collection plate
its because god is a deadbeat dad
 
Twila
+1
#3
man needed something to keep the peasants inline. what better way then an malignant spirit?
 
MHz
#4
A preview was given in the book of Job and during the 40 days in the wilderness. Satan can tempt you with food, safety from physical harm and lots of material goods and that also comes with his offer of the 'mark' which is a business permit number that allows you to become a middleman in the world of merchants and that is where you riches would come from. Usury is another tool that Satan would use to oppress people.
The image that is connected to that mark is a false throne in Jerusalem as the last event before the return happens and that event can only happen in the few days the two witnesses are dead in the streets of Jerusalem or Satan's Babylon as it is known for those few days.

Quote: Originally Posted by TwilaView Post

man needed something to keep the peasants inline. what better way then an malignant spirit?

How about a moderately expensive hobby??

Quote: Originally Posted by DanbonesView Post

judging by the way they pass the collection plate
its because god is a deadbeat dad

Take some off the plate to find out what the Congregation is really like.
 
Tecumsehsbones
#5
What question about Gawd isn't fully answered by "He has one heck of a sense of humor?"

Oops, sorry. "Humour."
 
French Patriot
+1
#6
Quote: Originally Posted by DanbonesView Post

judging by the way they pass the collection plate
its because god is a deadbeat dad


He is but that plate is passed around mostly for air fare to move protected pedophile priests and preachers around.


Oops. That truth hurts.


Regards
DL

Quote: Originally Posted by TwilaView Post

man needed something to keep the peasants inline. what better way then an malignant spirit?



You have a point.


Good deeds did not seem to be enough and perhaps that is why both Christianity and Islam used the sword to grow themselves instead of good deeds.


I wonder if Jesus had that in mind when he said we would recognize his people by their works and deeds.


Regards
DL

Quote: Originally Posted by MHzView Post



----------------------------A preview was given in the book of Job


Ah yes. Where God blames Satan for his doing evil. A good story that that shows just how big a prick Yahweh is.




-----------------------------and during the 40 days in the wilderness.


Indeed. Have you ever wondered why God gave Satan the dominion to temp Jesus with?




--------------------------------Satan can tempt you with food, safety from physical harm and lots of material --------------------------------goods and that also comes with his


Not me. If it is not free sex and lot's of it, I am un-temptable.


The quote function was dead. Forgive the format.


Regards
DL

Quote: Originally Posted by TecumsehsbonesView Post

What question about Gawd isn't fully answered by "He has one heck of a sense of humor?"

Oops, sorry. "Humour."


Yes, and no sense of Honor.


Regards
DL
 
Ludlow
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#7
You ask a question based upon a story written by men.
 
Twila
#8
Quote: Originally Posted by LudlowView Post

You ask a question based upon a story written by men.

Sorry. Tiny keyboard syndrome. Meant a thumbs up.
 
darkbeaver
#9
Quote: Originally Posted by French PatriotView Post

Why did God say: Let us give Satan to mankind?

God created Eden as his heaven on Earth so that he could, some day come down and rule over us.

He cast Satan out of heaven. I guess because she was creating a huge division there, and decided to send her to Earth, to also create division here, which she did.

Why would a good God curse the Earth by sending Satan, the personification of evil, to Earth?

Regards
DL




You will burned at the stake someday. And rightfully so.
 
Ludlow
#10
Quote: Originally Posted by TwilaView Post

Sorry. Tiny keyboard syndrome. Meant a thumbs up.

No problem Twila.
 
selfsame
#11
Quote: Originally Posted by French PatriotView Post

Why did God say: Let us give Satan to mankind?

God created Eden as his heaven on Earth so that he could, some day come down and rule over us.

He cast Satan out of heaven. I guess because she was creating a huge division there, and decided to send her to Earth, to also create division here, which she did.

Why would a good God curse the Earth by sending Satan, the personification of evil, to Earth?

Regards
DL

Satan was (Azazil) the father of genies, and in his material life he lived thousands of years, before the creation of Adam, and he was righteous, then he died and God admitted his soul (or spirit) to Paradise in heaven, and made him a chief of the angels on account of his righteousness and obedience.

Then when Azazil saw himself in such position, he conceived the self-conceit and over-pride so he saw himself loftier than other angels in Paradise, while God dislikes such trait of his servants; because the loftiness and pride is exclusively for God alone: He is the God, the Creator, the Almighty and the Lord of everything in the universe.

Now, if God tells Azazil: Go out of Paradise, Azazil will say: Why do you drive me out of heaven, O Lord; I haven't done any bad thing!

Therefore, God made a trial of Azazil to expose his self-conceit and pride: He created Adam out of a black nasty smelling decayed organic substance: the rotten and decayed corpse of a dead body of a man in a grave; that grave came down included in the meteorites which were the remnants of a broken inhabited planet; that man lived in that broken up planet in the previous Doomsday.

Then God commanded the angels including Azazil to prostrate themselves before Adam in salutation and honoring; so all the angels complied the command of God, while Azazil with his self-conceit refused to prostrate himself to Adam and Azazil insisted on his disobedience .. so now he deserved the punishment and was driven out of Paradise in heaven.

Some people think that Satan (Azazil) was so powerful and strong so as to oppose God Almighty, which is not correct; but Azazil now becoming Satan or the Devil, pleaded God to postpone his punishment in Hell till Doomsday, and God granted him his request and postponed his punishment in Hell till Doomsday.

God in fact gave Azazil or Satan such respite, as a reward of his past righteousness and worshiping.

Therefore, Satan envied Adam, who did not yet worship God and yet he was to be honored by Satan and the other angels, and Satan became the enemy of Adam and his progeny.

So God decided that anyone follows Satan will be punished and anyone follows the apostles or messengers will be rewarded, and it is to see who truly believe firmly and who is a wrong-doer so he will follow Satan's suggestions.

And Satan does not oblige them, but he only suggest to them; so the wrong-doer will incline to follow him, and the good-doer will reject his suggestions.

www.quran-ayat.com/man/1.htm#Satan (external - login to view)
quran-ayat.com/man/1.htm#Satan

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Therefore, if God likes He can guide all people to become believers; but He has decided that He will not guide the wrong-doer; and will punish the wrong-doer and transgressor.

So He made Satan as a trial of people to see who follows the suggestions of Satan who suggests the atheism, the disbelief, the idolatry and every indecent work; and to see who will have a firm beleif in God alone and in the Next Life and so will not follow the suggestions of Satan, but will follow God's commandments, specially the First Commandment that God is One only and to Him alone the worship is due.

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Therefore, it is God that gudies and misguides people as He pleases.
And see the reply in the thread of The Cunning atheist leader.
 
Murphy
#12
He was not the father of the genies. He was Ezabel and Megel's brother.
 
French Patriot
#13
Quote: Originally Posted by LudlowView Post

You ask a question based upon a story written by men.



Yes. That story has cause a lot of harm because of stupid people literally believing in Satan and talking serpents.


The good will fight such stupid beliefs as a harm reduction technique as well as showing love to the stupid who recognize their stupidity.


Regards
DL

Quote: Originally Posted by darkbeaverView Post

You will burned at the stake someday. And rightfully so.[/FONT][/FONT][/FONT][/FONT][/FONT][/FONT]



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Regards
DL

Quote: Originally Posted by selfsameView Post

Satan was (Azazil) the father of genies, and in his material life he lived thousands of years, before the creation of Adam, and he was righteous, then he died and God admitted his soul (or spirit) to Paradise in heaven, and made him a chief of the angels on account of his righteousness and obedience.
Then when Azazil saw himself in such position, he conceived the self-conceit and over-pride so he saw himself loftier than other angels in Paradise, while God dislikes such trait of his servants; because the loftiness and pride is exclusively for God alone: He is the God, the Creator, the Almighty and the Lord of everything in the universe.
Now, if God tells Azazil: Go out of Paradise, Azazil will say: Why do you drive me out of heaven, O Lord; I haven't done any bad thing!
Therefore, God made a trial of Azazil to expose his self-conceit and pride: He created Adam out of a black nasty smelling decayed organic substance: the rotten and decayed corpse of a dead body of a man in a grave; that grave came down included in the meteorites which were the remnants of a broken inhabited planet; that man lived in that broken up planet in the previous Doomsday.
Then God commanded the angels including Azazil to prostrate themselves before Adam in salutation and honoring; so all the angels complied the command of God, while Azazil with his self-conceit refused to prostrate himself to Adam and Azazil insisted on his disobedience .. so...

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So your all knowing God did not know the result of his test. Strange that.


So Allah gave us all this evil because of his own ignorance and doubts to his teachings.


Ok.


That makes Allah quite the prick.


Regards
DL
 
MHz
#14
Quote: Originally Posted by TwilaView Post

Sorry. Tiny keyboard syndrome. Meant a thumbs up.

Darn, I was going to reverse that and the same damn thing happened to me.

Sorry LudLowLife. lol
 
Kreskin
#15
The original fake news source.
 
MHz
#16
Quote: Originally Posted by darkbeaverView Post

You will burned at the stake someday. And rightfully so.[/FONT][/FONT][/FONT][/FONT][/FONT][/FONT]

Perhaps that is how witches move onto the next realm. Burns don't kill them, you need a big fire, say one that would fill up the enclosure to the Sphinx enclosure compared to a volcano. What temp does limestone breakdown so the wear pattern are the same after many 1,000's of fires? (based on the rock that was taken out was piled up only a few yards away and it shown no water damage from erosion via lots of rain. Nor does the floor of the enclosure show any of the same damage the vertical walls do.
Thoughts??

Quote: Originally Posted by KreskinView Post

The original fake news source.

Moi??
 
davesmom
#17
Quote: Originally Posted by French PatriotView Post

Why did God say: Let us give Satan to mankind?

God created Eden as his heaven on Earth so that he could, some day come down and rule over us.

He cast Satan out of heaven. I guess because she was creating a huge division there, and decided to send her to Earth, to also create division here, which she did.

Why would a good God curse the Earth by sending Satan, the personification of evil, to Earth?

Regards
DL




I am not familiar with those verses of he Bible. But I would bet they were written by man who presumed to know what God did. I would also bet that God never spoke such silly words to any man.


This is another quote that gives the impression that Heaven is a physical location from which an entity can be 'cast out'. Whoever wrote this obviously hadn't the comprehension of there existing a spiritual and/or a physical being and the difference between them.


 
French Patriot
#18
Quote: Originally Posted by KreskinView Post

The original fake news source.



??


You mean God did not give Satan dominion over us.


So much for the temptation of Christ. Satan cannot temp him if she has nothing to tempt him with.


Regards
DL
 
Twila
+1
#19
Quote: Originally Posted by French PatriotView Post

??


You mean God did not give Satan dominion over us.


So much for the temptation of Christ. Satan cannot temp him if she has nothing to tempt him with.


Regards
DL


Satan gets such a bad rap.
 
French Patriot
#20
Quote: Originally Posted by davesmomView Post

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I am not familiar with those verses of he Bible. But I would bet they were written by man who presumed to know what God did. I would also bet that God never spoke such silly words to any man.


This is another quote that gives the impression that Heaven is a physical location from which an entity can be 'cast out'. Whoever wrote this obviously hadn't the comprehension of there existing a spiritual and/or a physical being and the difference between them.





I am aware. God is a myth while man is real.




John 6 ; 63 It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.


Luke 11:52 Woe unto you, lawyers! for ye have taken away the key of knowledge: ye entered not in yourselves, and them that were entering in ye hindered.


Mark 7:13 Making the word of God of none effect through your tradition, which ye have delivered: and many such like things do ye.


Regards
DL






Quote: Originally Posted by TwilaView Post

Satan gets such a bad rap.

Indeed.

The Jews never thought of her as evil. More like God's prosecutor and ally.

The Christians turned that into Satan worship so that they could justify their Inquisition of the many serpent cults that were all over their world in those days.

Moses even had a serpent headed staff which shows the respect they had for the law. Ka, a serpent, is also venerated by the Egyptians myths along with the Sumer myths were the root of the Jewish myth.

Regards
DL

Quote: Originally Posted by TwilaView Post

Satan gets such a bad rap.

Christians tout themselves as moral with a good God yet never wonder why Satan does not do near the killing of babies and children that God does.


Faith colored glasses are blinders.


Regards
DL
 
Ludlow
#21
Quote: Originally Posted by MHzView Post

Darn, I was going to reverse that and the same damn thing happened to me.

Sorry LudLowLife. lol

Shet ye festering fly trap Megaloon.
 
darkbeaver
#22
Quote: Originally Posted by selfsameView Post

Satan was (Azazil) the father of genies, and in his material life he lived thousands of years, before the creation of Adam, and he was righteous, then he died and God admitted his soul (or spirit) to Paradise in heaven, and made him a chief of the angels on account of his righteousness and obedience.
Then when Azazil saw himself in such position, he conceived the self-conceit and over-pride so he saw himself loftier than other angels in Paradise, while God dislikes such trait of his servants; because the loftiness and pride is exclusively for God alone: He is the God, the Creator, the Almighty and the Lord of everything in the universe.
Now, if God tells Azazil: Go out of Paradise, Azazil will say: Why do you drive me out of heaven, O Lord; I haven't done any bad thing!
Therefore, God made a trial of Azazil to expose his self-conceit and pride: He created Adam out of a black nasty smelling decayed organic substance: the rotten and decayed corpse of a dead body of a man in a grave; that grave came down included in the meteorites which were the remnants of a broken inhabited planet; that man lived in that broken up planet in the previous Doomsday.
Then God commanded the angels including Azazil to prostrate themselves before Adam in salutation and honoring; so all the angels complied the command of God, while Azazil with his self-conceit refused to prostrate himself to Adam and Azazil insisted on his disobedience .. so...

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Without evil no good could happen.
 
Remington1
+1
#23
And he said to them: "I saw Satan fall like lightning from heaven" (Luke 10:1 one of Jesus reference to Satan.
 
darkbeaver
#24
So Satan was electrical in nature. This would account to the constant warning of blisstering searing flames etc.
 

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