Why did we stop inventing gods?

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Why did we stop inventing gods?

The ancients were quite good at inventing new gods. The bible shows that the Jews invented many gods before deciding that god could not be defined and settled for “I am“, as the greatest expression of god. “I am” as spoken as a man.



Please google --- A History of God by Karen Armstrong.

Jews, in their oral tradition, gave man the last word in what god and his policies were to be. They accepted that the man they chose as head Rabbi of their Divine council had the power to overrule their written tradition. Man’s words, not an imaginary god, had the final say on policy. Man was supreme and not one of the imaginary gods.

Christianity then changed much of the morals and policies of their newly invented god, Yahweh, and also transferred the power of god to a man. Jesus. Jesus was now placed at the power seat at the right hand of his newly invented god and placed Yahweh in the right hemisphere of the brain, as shown in the art of the day as depicted by Michelangelo in his creation painting in the Vatican.

Islam then invented Allah, and so far, rightfully named him the last god to be invented. Foolish but true to date.

I see that search for a god as a search for the best laws and rules to live life by. After all, we cannot follow an imaginary god and can only follow the laws and rules that those imaginary gods has spoken, recognizing of course, that only a person can speak those laws and rules and that it was really a wise person who was uttering those words.

Gnostic Christians always saw those invented gods, specifically Yahweh, Jesus and Allah, as immoral and not worthy of us and that is why they named those gods as immoral and vile demiurges. This is not to say that those demiurges did not have some good policies but only says that a better god could and should be invented. Gnostic Christianity lost the god wars and was decimated the moment Christianity gained political power which they used to end freedom of religion.

Are immoral demiurges like Yahweh, Jesus and Allah, the best that mankind can come up with?

Why do you think we stopped inventing gods and settled for demonstrably immoral ones?

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DL
 

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Why did we stop inventing gods?

The ancients were quite good at inventing new gods. The bible shows that the Jews invented many gods before deciding that god could not be defined and settled for “I am“, as the greatest expression of god. “I am” as spoken as a man.



Please google --- A History of God by Karen Armstrong.

Jews, in their oral tradition, gave man the last word in what god and his policies were to be. They accepted that the man they chose as head Rabbi of their Divine council had the power to overrule their written tradition. Man’s words, not an imaginary god, had the final say on policy. Man was supreme and not one of the imaginary gods.

Christianity then changed much of the morals and policies of their newly invented god, Yahweh, and also transferred the power of god to a man. Jesus. Jesus was now placed at the power seat at the right hand of his newly invented god and placed Yahweh in the right hemisphere of the brain, as shown in the art of the day as depicted by Michelangelo in his creation painting in the Vatican.

Islam then invented Allah, and so far, rightfully named him the last god to be invented. Foolish but true to date.

I see that search for a god as a search for the best laws and rules to live life by. After all, we cannot follow an imaginary god and can only follow the laws and rules that those imaginary gods has spoken, recognizing of course, that only a person can speak those laws and rules and that it was really a wise person who was uttering those words.

Gnostic Christians always saw those invented gods, specifically Yahweh, Jesus and Allah, as immoral and not worthy of us and that is why they named those gods as immoral and vile demiurges. This is not to say that those demiurges did not have some good policies but only says that a better god could and should be invented. Gnostic Christianity lost the god wars and was decimated the moment Christianity gained political power which they used to end freedom of religion.

Are immoral demiurges like Yahweh, Jesus and Allah, the best that mankind can come up with?

Why do you think we stopped inventing gods and settled for demonstrably immoral ones?

Regards
DL

Gnostics ceased to invent gods when they declared themselves gods, DL.
 

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We just invent different God's now and their opposing Bogeymen.



Yes but are they moral gods?


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DL

It is all part of the trend to downsize and centralize. Too many gods is confusing to the confused.



Seems that you do not understand that foolish Trinity concept.


Not surprising as it is too foolish for a non-foolish explanation.


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DL

When the masses got educated they no longer needed gods.



True to a point but then they turn to a new god, statism.



I cannot link for some reason but if you google --- Statism: The Most Dangerous Religion


you will see what I mean.


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DL

The bottom is falling out of the god market.



Let us pray.


All except the Gnostic Christian god that is as that god, as in older and better days, is a man.


Or a woman to women. See Jung and Freud's Father Complex.


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DL

As ole Socrates taught, the beginning of wisdom is when one admits that they do not know. Try not to feel too educated.



Education has little to do with knowledge and wisdom. It just gives information for our minds to have starting points that might lead to knowledge and wisdom.


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DL

Gnostics ceased to invent gods when they declared themselves gods, DL.



Indeed.


That system cannot be bested. All else is mental poverty.




Gnostic Christian Jesus said, "If those who attract you say, 'See, the Kingdom is in the sky,' then the birds of the sky will precede you.


If they say to you, 'It is under the earth,' then the fish of the sea will precede you.


Rather, the Kingdom of God is inside of you, and it is outside of you.


[Those who] become acquainted with [themselves] will find it; [and when you] become acquainted with yourselves, [you will understand that] it is you who are the sons of the living Father.


But if you will not know yourselves, you dwell in poverty and it is you who are that poverty."




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DL

So if we are all gods what does it pay? and how come I haven't seen a cheque yet?



Being a god is a mental state.


The best moral gods are well paid by those who have an elect or following.


There are exceptions to this best god as can be seen in Christianity and Islam's immoral gods whose people grew their religions by war instead of good deeds.




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DL

It seems that this topic is theist proof.


That or they have all been chased out of the forum by the more intelligent.


Even the Pope is backsliding.


Please google --- HOCKER! Pope Calls Jesus and the Bible a LIE!


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DL
 

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It's what they call "the Superman problem." Superman was so powerful that all the bad guys could do was hide. As soon as Supe figured out where they were and what they were up to, it was over. That's why they had to dream up some vulnerabilities for Superman, like kryptonite. It's also why later superheroes always have limits and vulnerabilities.

Same with gods. In the old religions, gods had limits, vulnerabilities, and shortcomings. Then they came up with the Elvis god, call it what you will: Jehovah, Yahweh, Allah, whatever. Not only is it omnipotent, omniscient, and omnibenevolent, everything it does is right by definition. Slaughter innocent children? No problem. According to Jews, Christians, and Muslims, if Elvisgod did it, it was the right thing to do, no matter how vile and horrendous to us mere mortals. And if you disagree, we'll kill you and enslave your kids.

How do you follow that act?
 

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The Greek version is supposed to make a comeback in the future as the RCC fades from the throne it has sat on for so long. An illusion of change rather than it being any real change. It is being billed as the climax as far as the battle of the various Gods and one will be called the winner, period.

Some of the best educated people in the world are religious.
When you agree with the person next to you that isn't educated it is a 'collective' when the number includes many people. I have a hard time believing any of them if they haven't yet figured out who the beloved disciple is by using the Bible as the reference material. 20 hrs of study will give you a better estimate than the same ones who have had the same text for almost 2,000 years. That probably isn't the only flaw, insert purple ink as required.
 

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An abundance of 'perceptual set'
(in part)
Perceptual set theory stresses the idea of perception as an active process involving selection, inference and interpretation.
The concept of perceptual set is important to the active process of perception. Allport (1955) defined perceptual set as:

'A perceptual bias or predisposition or readiness to perceive particular features of a stimulus.'​
Perceptual set is a tendency to perceive or notice some aspects of the available sensory data and ignore others. According to Vernon, 1955 perceptual set works in two ways:
(1) The perceiver has certain expectations and focuses attention on particular aspects of the sensory data: This he calls a Selector'.
(2) The perceiver knows how to classify, understand and name selected data and what inferences to draw from it. This she calls an 'Interpreter'.
It has been found that a number of variables, or factors, influence perceptual set, and set in turn influences perception. The factors include:

• Expectations

• Emotion

• Motivation

• Culture
Perceptual Set | Simply Psychology