Liberalism and Islam

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So, we have a paradox. Considered both historically and in terms of its contemporary manifestations, Islam would appear to be the least liberal of religions. Nor is it easy to see why any devout Muslim would want to accommodate his religion to liberalism -- especially when he sees how liberals have come to treat Christianity after having tamed it. Yet liberals by and large seem to think such an accommodation is not only possible but highly likely. Why? Is there something in Islam that liberals have seen that others have not? Or are liberal hopes delusional?

article here:

Edward Feser: Liberalism and Islam
 

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So, we have a paradox. Considered both historically and in terms of its contemporary manifestations, Islam would appear to be the least liberal of religions. Nor is it easy to see why any devout Muslim would want to accommodate his religion to liberalism -- especially when he sees how liberals have come to treat Christianity after having tamed it. Yet liberals by and large seem to think such an accommodation is not only possible but highly likely. Why? Is there something in Islam that liberals have seen that others have not? Or are liberal hopes delusional?

article here:

Edward Feser: Liberalism and Islam

Liberals are doubling down on killing them with kindness.
 

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So, we have a paradox. Considered both historically and in terms of its contemporary manifestations, Islam would appear to be the least liberal of religions. Nor is it easy to see why any devout Muslim would want to accommodate his religion to liberalism -- especially when he sees how liberals have come to treat Christianity after having tamed it. Yet liberals by and large seem to think such an accommodation is not only possible but highly likely. Why? Is there something in Islam that liberals have seen that others have not? Or are liberal hopes delusional?

article here:

Edward Feser: Liberalism and Islam

The hot coffee is to be sipped, while the cold coffee may be grabed.

Anyhow, the Islam: God's religion cannot be subjected or compromised with any other programs like liberalism or any other discipline of belief.

It is to devote to God alone without associate, son or patron, and not to incline to the wrong-doers or tyrants.

Quran 11: 113و which means:
{[God – be glorified – forbade from the concession about the religion and from the inclination to wrong-doers, and He said:]
113. And [O believers] incline not to those who do wrong j, or else the Fire will touch you, and [then] you will have no patrons k apart from God, nor will you then be helped l.}
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j i.e. don’t incline to wrong-doers by being kind towards them, neither should you believe their words nor should you help them to their wrong-doing.
(Those who do wrong) involves the associaters among the Arab, because they wronged the Prophet, so they transgressed on his rights and fought him.

k To protect you from God’s punishment.

l Against your enemy, if you incline to them concerning any of the religion affairs.

The interpretation is by Mohammed-Ali Hassan Al-Hilly.
 

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The hot coffee is to be sipped, while the cold coffee may be grabed.

Anyhow, the Islam: God's religion cannot be subjected or compromised with any other programs like liberalism or any other discipline of belief.

It is to devote to God alone without associate, son or patron, and not to incline to the wrong-doers or tyrants.

Quran 11: 113و which means:
{[God – be glorified – forbade from the concession about the religion and from the inclination to wrong-doers, and He said:]
113. And [O believers] incline not to those who do wrong j, or else the Fire will touch you, and [then] you will have no patrons k apart from God, nor will you then be helped l.}
.........................................................

j i.e. don’t incline to wrong-doers by being kind towards them, neither should you believe their words nor should you help them to their wrong-doing.
(Those who do wrong) involves the associaters among the Arab, because they wronged the Prophet, so they transgressed on his rights and fought him.

k To protect you from God’s punishment.

l Against your enemy, if you incline to them concerning any of the religion affairs.

The interpretation is by Mohammed-Ali Hassan Al-Hilly.

As soon as Muslims see how retarded and mean Mohammed really is, they will stop worshiping him.
 

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In addition, God - be glorified - commanded in the Quran to follow the straight and standard way of the monotheism and exclusive devotion to God alone ... and never to follow the other ways:

Quran 6: 153, which means:
{Surely, this [religion of the Islam q] is My 'standard and straight' way; therefore do you [men] follow it, but [in the future] follow not other ways [of falsehood], lest you should be parted from His way [because of the plighting and designing of the associaters of the other ways.] s
This [warning] He t has commanded you with; haply you will ward off [their plights and wickedness.]}
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q With which I have commanded you, and to which I have guided you.

s It means: In the future, the Muslim nation will divide and deviate from the 'standard and straight' way; because the ways and programs of the falsehood [of your enemies] will work for dividing you, so their propaganda will influence you and their plights will inflict you; so it will lead to your dispersion away from His way.

t i.e. God – be glorified.

The interpretation is by Mohammed-Ali Hassan Al-Hilly.
 
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As soon as Muslims see how retarded and mean Mohammed really is, they will stop worshiping him.

Ay ay ay; what brilliant one! May God keep you for your mother.

Tell me you are Jew of course: I can smell you funny smell... do you think Jacob your grandfather is now delightful about your words!?

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The hatred of Zionists is so obvious, so be fretful with your rancor; this will not avail you in turning the truth upside down.
 

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The only on here who maybe reads your quotes by Hill--Billy might be Megahurtz and even that is debatable....:rolleyes:

You cannot prevent others from reading it; have you yourself read it? The argment has been established against you; and even if you do not read it, you have known about it; so in both cases you are a loser.
 

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The hot coffee is to be sipped, while the cold coffee may be grabed.

Anyhow, the Islam: God's religion cannot be subjected or compromised with any other programs like liberalism or any other discipline of belief.

It is to devote to God alone without associate, son or patron, and not to incline to the wrong-doers or tyrants.

Quran 11: 113و which means:
{[God – be glorified – forbade from the concession about the religion and from the inclination to wrong-doers, and He said:]
113. And [O believers] incline not to those who do wrong j, or else the Fire will touch you, and [then] you will have no patrons k apart from God, nor will you then be helped l.}
.........................................................

j i.e. don’t incline to wrong-doers by being kind towards them, neither should you believe their words nor should you help them to their wrong-doing.
(Those who do wrong) involves the associaters among the Arab, because they wronged the Prophet, so they transgressed on his rights and fought him.

k To protect you from God’s punishment.

l Against your enemy, if you incline to them concerning any of the religion affairs.

The interpretation is by Mohammed-Ali Hassan Al-Hilly.
My gawd is better than your gawd.
 

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So, we have a paradox. Considered both historically and in terms of its contemporary manifestations, Islam would appear to be the least liberal of religions. Nor is it easy to see why any devout Muslim would want to accommodate his religion to liberalism -- especially when he sees how liberals have come to treat Christianity after having tamed it. Yet liberals by and large seem to think such an accommodation is not only possible but highly likely. Why? Is there something in Islam that liberals have seen that others have not? Or are liberal hopes delusional?

article here:

Edward Feser: Liberalism and Islam
there's over a billion muslims, naturally there will be differing opinions among muslims, particularly differences are significant on what country they reside. thus blanket statements against muslims will never be accurate and always disingenuous.
 

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So, we have a paradox. Considered both historically and in terms of its contemporary manifestations, Islam would appear to be the least liberal of religions. Nor is it easy to see why any devout Muslim would want to accommodate his religion to liberalism -- especially when he sees how liberals have come to treat Christianity after having tamed it. Yet liberals by and large seem to think such an accommodation is not only possible but highly likely. Why? Is there something in Islam that liberals have seen that others have not? Or are liberal hopes delusional?

article here:

Edward Feser: Liberalism and Islam




lo and behold!


radical Islam and the right wing television evangelists parallel FAR more closely than any other groups in this world:



CHILLING PARALLELS

Right-Wing Christians, Radical Islamic Fundamentalists - They're Pretty Much Exactly the Same
 

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...and the only reason there isn't more radical Christians is because they aren't in countries being bombarded and terrorized by imperialist powers.
 

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Ay ay ay; what brilliant one! May God keep you for your mother.

Tell me you are Jew of course: I can smell you funny smell... do you think Jacob your grandfather is now delightful about your words!?

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The hatred of Zionists is so obvious, so be fretful with your rancor; this will not avail you in turning the truth upside down.
Truth? You wouldn't recognize truth if it knocked you down and a$$ raped you.