What happened to the disbelievers who died?

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Today I read these four marvellous ayat .. wonderful .. truly the Quran is unique; there is nothing like this in the other heavenly books

The Quran tells about the outcome of disbelievers who died, and what they said:

When the angels of death captured their souls, the disbelievers startled with terror .. then their repentance and belief at that time was not accepted

See it here:

Quran 34: 51-54, which mean:

[Then God – be glorified – told about the associaters who died, and He said:]
51. If you [Mohammed] could only see [the disbelievers after their death] when they were terrified [by seeing the angels of death a]; when there was no escape b, and they were seized from a place nearby [to their families c.]

52. And [after their death] they said: "We have [now] believed in [the Quran and Mohammed.]"

[So God – be glorified – said:]
But how could they exchange even few words [with Mohammed e] from a place faraway from him [when they are in the Afterlife and he is still in the World.]

53. The while they disbelieved in [the Quran] before [their death], and even they accused f [the Torah with a false charge] from a place faraway [from them in Mecca when the Torah was in Palestine.]

54. And they were barred from what [belief] they desire [and from accepting it], as it had been dealt before with those [disbelievers g] of their kind; surely they were in disquieting doubt [about the apostle-hood of Mohammed and the Quran.]
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a Who seized their spirits.

b i.e. We did not miss them, neither could they escape from Our hands and Our authority.

c So that none of their family members could help them or prevent Our angels from seizing their spirits.
It means: their spirits were taken and their bodies were left.

Similar to this in meaning is His saying – be glorified – in the Quran 56: 85, which means:
(And We [: Our angels] are nearer to him than you are, but you see [the angels] not.)
It means: Our angels are nearer, to the dying one, than you are, but you do not see them; because they are spiritual ethereal and you are material.

e To tell him that they believed in him.

f Their accusing the Torah with a false charge, is their saying as in the Quran 28: 48, which means (“The [Torah and the Quran] are only two works of magic which prevailed.”
(And they said also: “We disbelieve in either of them.”) They mean by that: the Torah and the Quran, and Moses and Mohammed.

g Who died before them.

The interpretation is by Mohammed-Ali Hassan Al-Hilly.

 
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[trills tongue like a savage and fires Kalashnikov into the air]

A loser, for sure.
The ayat are concerning you and every disbeliever who will die being a disbeliever, then will realize that he only has gone to another spiritual world after this material life.
 

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A loser, for sure.
The ayat are concerning you and every disbeliever who will die being a disbeliever, then will realize that he only has gone to another spiritual world after this material life.

Does an Ayat hide under your bed and smell like khat, stale hooka smoke and an unwashed body?
 

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Why worry about death and being chosen?

None is chosen concerning death.
The 'chosen' is the 'guided' and even the 'guided' should work righteousness and avoid the disobedience or else he will lose.
The 'guided' is the believer in the new messenger in addition to the old ones, and in the new revelation in addition to the old ones.
 

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They are resurrected at the Great White Throne just like everybody else that isn't alive for the 1,000 year reign.
 

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Embrace life and accept death. Spending you life worrying about your judgment in life and in death is a waste of time.
 

selfsame

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They are resurrected at the Great White Throne just like everybody else that isn't alive for the 1,000 year reign.

Nothing like this; these are only illusions, obscurity and misinterpretations.
When man dies: his Doomsday is due and will face his reward: if he is an associater, he will lose and none can save him, even Jesus or Mohammed cannot intercede for the associater and idolater. The matter is by God's hand only.

The 1000 years: righteous believers :) monotheists: devoting themselves to God alone) these will go to Paradise of Refuge 1000 years before others: these others will suffer the punishment when the earth will stop its axial rotation for 1000 years and then Doomsday will occur.
 

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It is exactly like that. The ones who are closest to losing salvation are the ones sent to hell for the 1,000 years. In Isa:65 that is expanded on and they are the ones in the new earth verses so while it is true that there is punishment for some it is followed with eternal forgiveness for those sins. Death covered Adam's sin and it applies to everyone that enters the grave, all their sins are washed away by the time of their judgment at the GWT event.
 

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Embrace life and accept death. Spending you life worrying about your judgment in life and in death is a waste of time.

No, it is not any waste of time: it is serious thing: the inevitable fate: man should not ignore it.
 

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Only Mohammad will be silent on that day.


Heb:12:22-25:
But ye are come unto mount Sion,
and unto the city of the living God,
the heavenly Jerusalem,
and to an innumerable company of angels,
To the general assembly and church of the firstborn,
which are written in heaven,
and to God the Judge of all,
and to the spirits of just men made perfect,
And to Jesus the mediator of the new covenant,
and to the blood of sprinkling,
that speaketh better things than that of Abel.
See that ye refuse not him that speaketh.
For if they escaped not who refused him that spake on earth,
much more shall not we escape,
if we turn away from him that speaketh from heaven:
 

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It is exactly like that. The ones who are closest to losing salvation are the ones sent to hell for the 1,000 years. In Isa:65 that is expanded on and they are the ones in the new earth verses so while it is true that there is punishment for some it is followed with eternal forgiveness for those sins. Death covered Adam's sin and it applies to everyone that enters the grave, all their sins are washed away by the time of their judgment at the GWT event.

Do not evade; such words will not avail you anything: unless you believe in the Quran and in Mohammed on whom the Quran was revealed to confirm the original Torah and Gospel and to believe in God alone without associate or son.

Adam's sin was for him, and he repented and was forgiven his disobedience: he was in a garden on a mountain, not in the Garden of heaven.
The grave is nothing more than a garbage bin: in which the torn and decayed material body is buried; the spirit or soul is not in the grave, unless some are imprisoned in the grave as a punishment.
What they call as purgation: it is true for believers: the monotheists with their sins: they will be punished in the afterlife and then will go to the temporary Garden of Refuge. Then on Judgment Day they will go to the Garden or Paradise of Everlasting and Prosperity, according to the forgiveness and mercy of God.

But Jews who keep to their Judaism and Christians who keep to their Christianity even after the coming of Mohammed without believing in him and in the Quran .. they will lose in the Next Life, and their righteous work will not be accepted form them.
 

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But Jews who keep to their Judaism and Christians who keep to their Christianity even after the coming of Mohammed without believing in him and in the Quran .. they will lose in the Next Life, and their righteous work will not be accepted form them
No they won't. Moses, Jesus or Mohammad will NOT be judging you on how you embraced life, God will. All three have told you that, why didn't you listen?
 

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If you embrace life you can only please the source of all life.

That is all that is asked of you by its Creator.

These are only general words.
No objection about embracing life; but the Next Life is better and more enduring than the life of the World; so man should work for the Next Life which is his lasting future.
Man after Death

No they won't. Moses, Jesus or Mohammad will NOT be judging you on how you embraced life, God will. All three have told you that, why didn't you listen?

Nice idea: embracing life: why should anyone object? But the Next Life is preferred to this life of the World.

In fact God will not judge people, but Moses, Jesus and Mohammed (and other apostles) will be judges of people on Judgment Day.
God will judge Moses, Jesus and Mohammed, then He will command them to judge their peoples: according to what they applied or neglected of the Torah, Gospel and the Quran.

See here about the Judgment of the prophets and messengers:
Judgment of the prophets and apostles
http://www.quran-ayat.com/man/2.htm#__[_The_Shout_and_the_Crier:]_
See it just before this link of Question 18
http://www.quran-ayat.com/man/2.htm#Question_18
 

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God himself is going to be the great bouncer in the sky? If you don't have the
secret decoder letter you can't get in? I think we should put cell phones in the
coffins and the spirits can call and tell us about all the fun and parties going on.
Ya Right This is pie in the sky when you die the oldest form of snake oil sales