I prayed to God and took my chances

[tay]

I've heard God works in mysterious ways. He's just not working to help these unfortunate kids. But maybe they're not praying hard enough........

A Brooklyn man who faced 10 years for downloading child pornography was sentenced to five days by a federal judge who sharply criticized punishment guidelines for failing to distinguish between dangerous offenders and those who pose little threat.

U.S. District Judge Jack Weinstein wrote a 98-page decision explaining why he bypassed the guidelines and chose not to put the man in prison for possessing two dozen photos and videos — some showing men sexually assaulting girls as young as 3 years old.

"Removing R.V. from his family will not further the interests of justice," Weinstein wrote, using the defendant's initials.

His opinion, first reported in the New York Law Journal, is the latest salvo in a war over whether penalties for possessing child pornography have gotten too harsh.

The existing guidelines, Weinstein wrote, do not "adequately balance the need to protect the public, and juveniles in particular, against the need to avoid excessive punishment."

The defendant, who agreed to speak to NBC News on the condition his name was not used, said he was surprised and relieved that Weinstein was so lenient after his guilty plea.

"I prayed to God and took my chances," the 53-year-old father of five said. "I feel very remorseful. It's something that will never happen again."

But child-abuse victims' advocates said they were appalled by Weinstein's reasoning.

"I think Judge Weinstein's opinion minimizes the harm that is done to victims of these crimes from the mere act of viewing their images. It's a gross violation of privacy and an invasion of privacy that traumatizes them throughout their lives," said Paul Cassel, a former federal judge who is now a law professor at the University of Utah.

In 2013, investigators remotely connected to the man's computer and downloaded four photos and videos showing men engaged in sexual acts with girls, including a 3-year-old and a 5-year-old, and they seized more porn on thumb drives with a search warrant, court papers said. The man also had "sexual" chats with underage girls online, but there was no evidence he sought physical contact with minors.

"I just got caught up in it," he said. "It's not like I woke up and said, 'Listen, let me look at this stuff.' It kept popping up every time I was downloading."

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Judge Gives Man 5 Days for Child Porn, Rails Against Harsh Sentences - NBC News

 

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He left us in charge of containing evil people in out midst. Romans:13 if you care to read the details.
The offenders get their punishment from God so you have to account for that aspect and it isn't a punishment on you. If he sent them to hell they would be there longer than the punishment time allows for the max is 3 1/2 years if they are from the 12 tribes and 1,000 years if they are Gentiles. The 12 Tribes warm it up for the Gentiles. Perhaps parents need a lighter sentence when taking revenge and there is alway civil damages that could be brought forward after a criminal conviction is done.

 

[selfsame]

There is no difference between the 12 tribes and other people called the Gentiles; all of them are God's servants and His creatures: they have no golden testes.
Every man is responsible about his sins: whoever he is.
But the difference is like this:
If man is devoted to God alone without associate: i.e. he worships God and does not worship anyone else together with Him --- this one will be forgiven his sins if he repents, but will receive his punishment in the life of the World: like suffering from disease, imprisonment, difficulty, poverty, fear ... etc.
Or will be punished in the afterlife before Doomsday: which will be a mild punishment, then when his punishment is fulfilled, he will go to Paradise on Judgment Day.
Or he may go to Hell temporarily, then will be released and go to Paradise in the kingdom of heaven.

So if a man belonging to the 12 tribes and he is an idolater or associater or atheist .. then woe to him .. he will be in Hell forever.

Quran 2: 80-82, which mean:
{80. And the [Jewish scholars] say, 'The fire [of Hell] shall not touch us save only for several days a.'
Say [Mohammed to these Jews]: 'Have you taken a covenant with God [that He will not chastise you but only for seven days]; for God breaks not His covenant [if He covenants with anyone]?
Or do you say [mere doubts and wishes] about God, such as you do not know [any real truth about]?'

81. No b, but whosoever earns a sin, and his guilt surrounds him c; such d are the fellows of the Fire; they will abide therein [forever.]

82. And those who believe [in God and in His messenger Mohammed], and work righteous work, they will be the people of Paradise in which to abide forever.}
........................................................

a i.e. They mean: seven days which are equal to the days during which they worshipped the calf; because Moses promised them thirty days, then when he did not return, they awaited for other three days, then they made the calf and worshipped it for seven days, and Moses returned after the end of the forty days.
They said also that the duration of the World is seven thousand years; and that God assigned one of those seven days for each one thousand years.

b The Fire will inflict them, and they will suffer inside it: each one of them according to his own sins, and it is not as do they claim that they will be punished for seven days only.

c i.e. he keeps up to it, and does not repent to God from it.

d keeping up to the sins. The "sin" here is the minor sin, not the major sins, neither is it the "association" with God.

As it is indicated by His saying – be glorified – in the Quran 4: 31, which means:
(If you [Muslims] avoid the great [sins] which you are forbidden, We will remit from you your venial [sins])

Therefore, (whosoever earns a sin) means any of the scholars, because the aya is specially related to the Jewish scholars; in addition it also includes Christian and Muslim scholars.

The meaning: If scholars commit any sin, even though it is minor, then they will deserve the Fire according to it; because the scholar is not considered and dealt with like the ignorant; the sin of the scholar is greater than the "association" of the ignorant: because the ignorant casts only himself exclusively in the Fire, while the scholar casts himself and everyone that follows him.

It is the innovation in the religion: or inventing new things which were not in the original religion.

Such great sin of the scholar is not the neglect and the non-observance of some religious duties, neither is it the transgressing on some forbidden things related to his own self, but the great sin of the religious scholar is that he invents some way that he does and his people will follow him and do like him, or he gives a fatwa (or religious judgment) against God's good pleasure,
or he finds his people and his sect following not the truth and he does not instruct them to work in the correct way, but he agrees with them or he becomes silent about the truth lest they may hate him or lest they may not give him the assigned money like the "Zakat", the "One fifth", the "due right of the imam" or the "remission of the transgression" and others.

So if the religious scholar becomes silent for the purpose of money, position or something like that, then he will be responsible before God on Judgment Day, when God – be glorified – will say to the angels [as in the aya 37: 24, which means:
("And stop them; for they are to be questioned [concerning their followers.]")

Then God – be glorified – will say to that scholar: "I gave you knowledge and authority to guide My servants to the way of the truth, and you found your people missing the way; then why were you silent about telling and guiding them to the truth? Did you prefer the Life of the World to the Next Life, and exchange the wrath of the Creator for the good pleasure of the created servant?"

Then He will sentence him to be punished in Hell, as in this aya 2: 82 which means:
(No, but whosoever earns a sin, and his guilt surrounds him; such are the fellows of the Fire; they will abide therein [forever.] )

The interpretation is by Mohammed-Ali Hassan Al-Hilly.

 

[Ludlow]

There is no difference between the 12 tribes and other people called the Gentiles; all of them are God's servants and His creatures: they have no golden testes.
Every man is responsible about his sins: whoever he is.
But the difference is like this:
If man is devoted to God alone without associate: i.e. he worships God and does not worship anyone else together with Him --- this one will be forgiven his sins if he repents, but will receive his punishment in the life of the World: like suffering from disease, imprisonment, difficulty, poverty, fear ... etc.
Or will be punished in the afterlife before Doomsday: which will be a mild punishment, then when his punishment is fulfilled, he will go to Paradise on Judgment Day.
Or he may go to Hell temporarily, then will be released and go to Paradise in the kingdom of heaven.

So if a man belonging to the 12 tribes and he is an idolater or associater or atheist .. then woe to him .. he will be in Hell forever.

Quran 2: 80-82, which mean:
{80. And the [Jewish scholars] say, 'The fire [of Hell] shall not touch us save only for several days a.'
Say [Mohammed to these Jews]: 'Have you taken a covenant with God [that He will not chastise you but only for seven days]; for God breaks not His covenant [if He covenants with anyone]?
Or do you say [mere doubts and wishes] about God, such as you do not know [any real truth about]?'

81. No b, but whosoever earns a sin, and his guilt surrounds him c; such d are the fellows of the Fire; they will abide therein [forever.]

82. And those who believe [in God and in His messenger Mohammed], and work righteous work, they will be the people of Paradise in which to abide forever.}
........................................................

a i.e. They mean: seven days which are equal to the days during which they worshipped the calf; because Moses promised them thirty days, then when he did not return, they awaited for other three days, then they made the calf and worshipped it for seven days, and Moses returned after the end of the forty days.
They said also that the duration of the World is seven thousand years; and that God assigned one of those seven days for each one thousand years.

b The Fire will inflict them, and they will suffer inside it: each one of them according to his own sins, and it is not as do they claim that they will be punished for seven days only.

c i.e. he keeps up to it, and does not repent to God from it.

d keeping up to the sins. The "sin" here is the minor sin, not the major sins, neither is it the "association" with God.

As it is indicated by His saying – be glorified – in the Quran 4: 31, which means:
(If you [Muslims] avoid the great [sins] which you are forbidden, We will remit from you your venial [sins])

Therefore, (whosoever earns a sin) means any of the scholars, because the aya is specially related to the Jewish scholars; in addition it also includes Christian and Muslim scholars.

The meaning: If scholars commit any sin, even though it is minor, then they will deserve the Fire according to it; because the scholar is not considered and dealt with like the ignorant; the sin of the scholar is greater than the "association" of the ignorant: because the ignorant casts only himself exclusively in the Fire, while the scholar casts himself and everyone that follows him.

It is the innovation in the religion: or inventing new things which were not in the original religion.

Such great sin of the scholar is not the neglect and the non-observance of some religious duties, neither is it the transgressing on some forbidden things related to his own self, but the great sin of the religious scholar is that he invents some way that he does and his people will follow him and do like him, or he gives a fatwa (or religious judgment) against God's good pleasure,
or he finds his people and his sect following not the truth and he does not instruct them to work in the correct way, but he agrees with them or he becomes silent about the truth lest they may hate him or lest they may not give him the assigned money like the "Zakat", the "One fifth", the "due right of the imam" or the "remission of the transgression" and others.

So if the religious scholar becomes silent for the purpose of money, position or something like that, then he will be responsible before God on Judgment Day, when God – be glorified – will say to the angels [as in the aya 37: 24, which means:
("And stop them; for they are to be questioned [concerning their followers.]")

Then God – be glorified – will say to that scholar: "I gave you knowledge and authority to guide My servants to the way of the truth, and you found your people missing the way; then why were you silent about telling and guiding them to the truth? Did you prefer the Life of the World to the Next Life, and exchange the wrath of the Creator for the good pleasure of the created servant?"

Then He will sentence him to be punished in Hell, as in this aya 2: 82 which means:
(No, but whosoever earns a sin, and his guilt surrounds him; such are the fellows of the Fire; they will abide therein [forever.] )

The interpretation is by Mohammed-Ali Hassan Al-Hilly.

Guilt + Fear = Bullshyt. .

 

[taxslave]

There is no such thing as excessive punishment for kid diddlers.

 

[selfsame]

I had thought that the homosexuality punishment deserves death sentence.
But after studying the interpretation of the Quran by Mohammed-Ali Hassan Al-Hilly, I saw it is milder than the adultery with a woman.
I asked him: why?
He said: "He will not make him pregnant!"

So the adultery will lead to the loss of the linear descendance: Everyone knows his father.
And the adultery will lead to disruption of the family; so it is forbidden in the heavenly religion. It is one of the Ten Commandments: Do not commit adultery.

So the homosexuality punishment : lashes and/or prison.
The lesbian act: each one of the women is to be lashed 20 or 30 lashes (as I remember.)

The masturbation: rebuking and advising.

The adultery of the bachelor (who is not married): 100 lashes for the man and woman.
The adultery of the married woman: jail for seven days and nights continuously without food or water.
When the adulterer (the married) repeats the adultery, then he or she will be killed by a rock on the head.

The judge has to increase the punishment of the man who commits adultery with a chaste woman, specially the married having a husband, and decrease the punishment of the man who commits adultery with the harlot or the prostitute.

 

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There is no such thing as excessive punishment for kid diddlers.

True, but the people that made them that way should also be punished