Ottawa imam; Satirical Pics of religious leaders should be illegal

[tay]

Imtiaz Ahmed, an imam with the Ahmadiyya Muslim Community, said it should be against the law to publish cartoons that depict religious figures in a derogatory way.


“Of course we defend freedom of speech, but it has to be balanced. There has to be a limit. There has to be a code of conduct,” Ahmed said.


“We believe that any kind of vulgar expression about any sacred person of any religion does not constitute the freedom of speech in any way at all.”

Ahmed said there should be limits placed on freedom of speech to prevent the publication of offensive material. He says that seems to be the case for events such as the Holocaust. Members of the public denounce those who say the Holocaust never happened.


“We don’t want the Jewish community to be hurt by these sentiments,” Ahmed says


The Ahmadiyya Muslim Community has opposed such illustrations in the past in a peaceful manner. Ahmed said members of the community have gone to universities to educate students about Prophet Muhammad. He has also become involved in a campaign called Stop the Crisis to tackle the radicalization of Muslim youth.


“They are very offensive, but one thing I must say: there’s not a single verse of the Prophet that allows a Muslim to take the law in his own hand and commit horrific crimes against humanity,” Ahmed said. “We denounce that.”






Satirical depictions of religious leaders should be illegal, says Ottawa imam | National Post

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

Imtiaz Ahmed, an imam with the Ahmadiyya Muslim Community, said it should be against the law to publish cartoons that depict religious figures in a derogatory way.

And THAT, boys and girls, is an attack on free speech. Two nutbars with AKs aren't enough for this imam, he wants the whole RCMP enforcing his bigotry.

“Of course we defend freedom of speech, but it has to be balanced. There has to be a limit. There has to be a code of conduct,” Ahmed said.

Of course we defend freedom of speech, when it's speech we like. F*ck you with a pig cock, Imammy.

“We believe that any kind of vulgar expression about any sacred person of any religion does not constitute the freedom of speech in any way at all.”

You wouldn't know freedom of speech if it walked up and shoved a side of bacon up your a$$, dogturd.

 

[tay]

Imam Imtiaz Ahmed says he believes in free speech, but adds that it should be limited when religion is involved.


Then you don't believe in free speech. What you believe in is censorship and blasphemy laws.

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

Imam Imtiaz Ahmed says he believes in free speech, but adds that it should be limited when religion is involved.


Then you don't believe in free speech. What you believe in is censorship and blasphemy laws.

Heh-heh. NOUS SONT CHARLIE, motherf*cker!

 

[Sal]

“We believe that any kind of vulgar expression about any sacred person of any religion does not constitute the freedom of speech in any way at all.”

that's nice...we believe killing people for expressing their personal belief in any religion is not cool in any way at all

 

[WLDB]

Well, he has the right to be wrong.

 

[Sons of Liberty]

Well, he has the right to be wrong.

He may be referring to your hate speech laws.

 

[tay]

He may be referring to your hate speech laws.

Read the article .........




Imtiaz Ahmed, said it should be against the law to publish cartoons that depict religious figures in a derogatory way.













"Religion, a medieval form of unreason, when combined with modern weaponry becomes a real threat to our freedoms,"


"I stand with Charlie Hebdo, as we all must, to defend the art of satire, which has always been a force for liberty and against tyranny, dishonesty and stupidity."

He added, "'Respect for religion' has become a code phrase meaning 'fear of religion.' Religions, like all other ideas, deserve criticism, satire, and, yes, our fearless disrespect."


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[MHz]

And THAT, boys and girls, is an attack on free speech.

Considering the cartoons are always in a negitive context it is hate speech and it might be quite funny to the artist and his friends but the intent is to slander a whole group, if it is illegal to slander individuals then why not groups.

Since we already have a long list of anti-Semitic things why not add Islam to it. Jews certainly enjoy al lot of special rights that keep the public from slamming them for real actions let alone the perceived one.

Christians are a lot more fuked up socially and morally than any other group but they certainly enjoy a lot of protection from criminal prosecution. Islam is slammed because the originator was supposed to have married an underage female, the RCC just owned up to there being about 5,000 Priests who like to diddle children and what gets done by society at large, fuk all.

What Jew or Christian would ever draw a picture of Jesus even when the Bible tells us he was made ugly by God so His voice and words were the gathering tool.

Islam just has to accept that the best way to counter a cartoon is by putting out ones that mock Jewish people (rather than God giving them bad directions) Christian cartoons would be endless as they pretty much do the exact opposite of what the Bible tells them. A perfect example is the verse below, not one artist would ever follow the guidelines.

Isa:53:2-4:
For he shall grow up before him as a tender plant,
and as a root out of a dry ground:
he hath no form nor comeliness;
and when we shall see him,
there is no beauty that we should desire him.
He is despised and rejected of men;
a man of sorrows,
and acquainted with grief: and we hid as it were our faces from him;
he was despised,
and we esteemed him not.
Surely he hath borne our griefs,
and carried our sorrows:
yet we did esteem him stricken,
smitten of God,
and afflicted.

 

[Colpy]

I can't believe this idiot is actually a member of the Ahmadiyya sect.

These people are persecuted as heretics throughout the Muslim world.

In 2010, in Pakistan (where this dumbass probably was born) other Muslims evangelists murdered 94 of his sect, and wounded 120 in attacks on their mosques in Lahore.

Maybe we should send him back to Pakistan until he learns the value of tolerance of all views, no matter how they are expressed.

Or perhaps we should finally admit that liberty and Islam are mutually exclusive ideas.

 

[MHz]

Or perhaps we should finally admit that liberty and Islam are mutually exclusive ideas.

Perhaps we shouild let the Muslim countries keep the profits that we let Western Corporations steal from them. It isn't like the 2 million we have killed in the last 10 years has made us any safer, what it has done is make the stockholders richer. That is the priority that the West champions. (and then lie about the true motives because the people at home would never support a war that only makes the rich richer)

 

[lone wolf]

It should be illegal to lop heads from people on social media. Do Religious freaks think laws should work only on their terms?

 

[taxslave]

Perhaps we shouild let the Muslim countries keep the profits that we let Western Corporations steal from them. It isn't like the 2 million we have killed in the last 10 years has made us any safer, what it has done is make the stockholders richer. That is the priority that the West champions. (and then lie about the true motives because the people at home would never support a war that only makes the rich richer)

On top of all revenue from the oil money they have invested in the western world of course.

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

It should be illegal to lop heads from people on social media. Do Religious freaks think laws should work only on their terms?

Well. . . yeah, pretty much. It's kinda what makes them religious freaks.

 

[MHz]

It should be illegal to lop heads from people on social media. Do Religious freaks think laws should work only on their terms?

Christians never changed the killings, they just made sure it was never in print as it's own citizens were in roit mode over the slaughter of innocents. Why do you think they overwork the same kinds of headlines in the hope that the rage will be directed at Muslims, just at home and just for local consumption of the sheeple. Case in point, sheeple won't understand the manipulation proved by this link.

TIME magazine covers: worldwide differences | David Airey

 

[Angstrom]

Imtiaz Ahmed, an imam with the Ahmadiyya Muslim Community, said it should be against the law to publish cartoons that depict religious figures in a derogatory way.


“Of course we defend freedom of speech, but it has to be balanced. There has to be a limit. There has to be a code of conduct,” Ahmed said.


“We believe that any kind of vulgar expression about any sacred person of any religion does not constitute the freedom of speech in any way at all.”

Ahmed said there should be limits placed on freedom of speech to prevent the publication of offensive material. He says that seems to be the case for events such as the Holocaust. Members of the public denounce those who say the Holocaust never happened.


“We don’t want the Jewish community to be hurt by these sentiments,” Ahmed says


The Ahmadiyya Muslim Community has opposed such illustrations in the past in a peaceful manner. Ahmed said members of the community have gone to universities to educate students about Prophet Muhammad. He has also become involved in a campaign called Stop the Crisis to tackle the radicalization of Muslim youth.


“They are very offensive, but one thing I must say: there’s not a single verse of the Prophet that allows a Muslim to take the law in his own hand and commit horrific crimes against humanity,” Ahmed said. “We denounce that.”






Satirical depictions of religious leaders should be illegal, says Ottawa imam | National Post

If you're willing to limit free speech over something imaginary like god, doesn't that make you a radical?

Isn't there plenty of verses in the Quran that tells you to take law into you're own hands?

 

[lone wolf]

A bit tasteless ... but I don't suppose anyone got shot over it

 

[DaSleeper]

A bit tasteless ... but I don't suppose anyone got shot over it

I don't know, I almost chocked on my tea when I laughed.....

 

[MHz]

If you're willing to limit free speech over something imaginary like god, doesn't that make you a radical?

Isn't there plenty of verses in the Quran that tells you to take law into you're own hands?

50 less than in the Torah, what's your point? Perhaps it is time to stop funding Jews and Christians if their God is imaginary. (tax-free status for example, own free country in the bigger example)

I don't know, I almost chocked on my tea when I laughed.....

When you don't know **** you should remain quite, now the whole world has confirmation of that once again.
Figures your knowledge is as bad as ever. I know that even reading slow won't help but without the cross the heel bruise would never have been completed.

Joh:19:30:
When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar,
he said,
It is finished:
and he bowed his head,
and gave up the ghost.

Isa:53:10:
Yet it pleased the LORD to bruise him;
he hath put him to grief:
when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin,
he shall see his seed,
he shall prolong his days,
and the pleasure of the LORD shall prosper in his hand.

 

[WLDB]

A bit tasteless ... but I don't suppose anyone got shot over it

Taste is pretty subjective. I found it amusing.