Why was Adam exempt from the transgression when the transgression was disobedience?

[French Patriot]

Why was Adam exempt from the transgression when the transgression was disobedience?

"Let the women learn in silence with all subjection. But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence. For Adam was first formed, then Eve. And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression." (I Timothy 2:11-14)

I think that Adam, not being deceived, was more culpable than Eve.

Why then did God favor the guiltiest, Adam, with, --- he shall rule over you?

Men rule over women? Why when men were not deceived but disobeyed?

What was the transgression, --- if not a wise decision to choose knowledge and wisdom and shun immortality of the flesh, --- even if that were possible, --- and why was Adan not punished as hard as Eve when he was clearly more guilty?

Regards
DL

 

[DaSleeper]

You're worse than a Jehovah witness.......

 

[EagleSmack]

 

[MHz]

Why was Adam exempt from the transgression when the transgression was disobedience?

Adam died 'the same day' he ate as counting back then was 1,000 is equal to 1 day. That time will return when the 7th trumps sounds and the 1,000 year reign that follows is considered to be 1 day. Adam broke the Law God put him under, Eve broke the law that put Adam 'in charge' so her sin was against her husband and Adam's sin was against 'the head of the Church'

"Let the women learn in silence with all subjection. But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence. For Adam was first formed, then Eve. And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression." (I Timothy 2:11-14)

In this case mankind is the woman and the Scriptures are the 'authority'. The wife is to remain silent in public and let the man speak on how 'the family' feels about any certain subject. When a Rabbi is speaking all those listening are to remain quiet, like the 'wife if in Church, there is no demand she be silent the rest of the week.'

I think that Adam, not being deceived, was more culpable than Eve.

Adam ate because God made them one flesh and that bond meant he would not let her be in exile by herself. The wife is why a man will leave his family, at that time God was Adam's whole family

Why then did God favor the guiltiest, Adam, with, --- he shall rule over you?

Adam was given authority because he was older going by 'time spent with God'. The OT Prophets that came out of the grave when Jesus did ascended to the temple in Re:4 and they became the 24 Elders. They will sit on thrones on the earth and rule with Christ over all the people who are alive at the end of the day the 7th trump sounds. They have that right because they have been with God almost 2000 years. The people they teach in the 1,000 year reign will teach the ones that come alive when the 1,000 years is over.

Men rule over women? Why when men were not deceived but disobeyed?

'Rule' in that we should be wiser in that we are older, in reality at the moment it only means we have been stupider longer

What was the transgression, --- if not a wise decision to choose knowledge and wisdom and shun immortality of the flesh, --- even if that were possible, --- and why was Adan not punished as hard as Eve when he was clearly more guilty?

The failure on that day was that Satan thought he knew it all but what he didn't know is that Adam was under a different law than he was.

Western America take II?

 

[gopher]

"Let the women learn in silence with all subjection. But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence. For Adam was first formed, then Eve. And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression." (I Timothy 2:11-14)

We've gone over this several times - this stricture only applies in Greek churches where the newly converted Gentile churches were usurped by female preachers because that's the way they were in pagan times. It does NOT apply to other churches. Note that the greatest Jewish scholar of that era was Apollos and his teacher was Priscilla per Acts 18:24-26.

 

[French Patriot]

We've gone over this several times - this stricture only applies in Greek churches where the newly converted Gentile churches were usurped by female preachers because that's the way they were in pagan times. It does NOT apply to other churches. Note that the greatest Jewish scholar of that era was Apollos and his teacher was Priscilla per Acts 18:24-26.

It might only apply to Greeks but the Christians in the West sure kept the discrimination of women going right to this day.
I hope it stops soon.


Regards
DL

 

[MHz]

They got to vote in federal elections since about 1920. How fast do you want progress in the 'Christian West'? I'll assume the red was for the America II comment.

Later

 

[Ludlow]

Maybe consider the moral of the story

 

[MHz]

Don't give a imperfect command when perfection is demanded?

 

[Sparrow]

Because it was written by men!!!!!!!

 

[SLM]

Because it was written by men!!!!!!!

It's kind of a no-brainer but you should have let the boys figure it all out by themselves.

 

[MHz]

In a life and death struggle why would you think a surprise ending is a demand of any kind other than it not be one, of any level?

 

[EagleSmack]

 

[SLM]

Ah the wildebeest. It's been a long time my friends.

 

[French Patriot]

They got to vote in federal elections since about 1920. How fast do you want progress in the 'Christian West'? I'll assume the red was for the America II comment.

Later

Three generations. Hmm. Constantine killed free thinking in one that is still plaguing us today.


So much for Helen Ready and women's roaring ability. Woman's year was 1975,

Regards
DL


P.S. Have sneak preview of my next. You might like it.

Is rebellion good? Think Rosa Parks and Satan, our Lady and Mistress.

Matthew 10: 16 Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves: be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves.

https://www.google.ca/search?q=Michael+Angelo's+Eden+Vatican+collection&biw=1014&bih=519&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=9CYXVPXsKI-VjALRvYC4Cw&ved=0CAYQ_AUoAQ

Both of the females named Satan and Rosa Parks, are just two of many examples that show where rebellion has improved humanity and can be used to fight evil.

They would have liked this fast marching tune.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=STiuregSvHg

Is raising hell a good idea?

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To women.

If raising hell is a good idea, why are you sitting on your hands and not being the good citizen you should be in terms of pushing for equality?

You are the majority.

Has the shame that your despicable religion wrongly created in you killed your pride?

Hell, we have a Gay Pride Parade and they are a minute percentage of the population.

How about a Woman Pride Parade? Or can you not muster your fellow oppressed?

Or are you, --- analogically speaking, --- waiting for the white men at the cool front of the bus to politely ask you to change seats with them?

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To men of the Abrahamic cults. Christians, Catholics and Muslims.

Remember what God said. “He shall rule over you”.

Why are you men not ruling properly and allowing your charges to shirk their duty to society?

Why are you sitting on your hands? Should a ruler not rule and order a thing?

He shall rule over you says that you are ultimately responsible for your wife’s shirking of her duty.

Do get busy all of you Abrahamic men. Christians, Catholics and Muslims.

Justice says that equality is overdue thanks to your lazy wives. Raise a little hell on her buttock, politically speaking, that is.

It is your duty to society and especially to your fellow men. Women have been our burden long enough. **** God. Let us give women their due.

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To all.

Change the labels in this quote to women, minorities, gays or children being brainwashed by religions and it shows what we should be thinking and doing for each other.

"First they came for the Jews, but I did nothing because I'm not a Jew. Then they came for the socialists, but I did nothing because I'm not a socialist. Then they came for the Catholics, but I did nothing because I'm not a Catholic. Finally, they came for me, but by then there was no one left to help me." – Pastor Father Niemoller (1946)”

My friends.

Religion came for our women a long time ago and still has them as captive to barbaric immoral thinking.

Should we not try to get them back?

Regards
DL

 

[MHz]

Is rebellion good?
Without it the fiery lake would get no residents. Without it people in the new earth would no be divided in who lives in the City and who live 'in the countryside.
Rebellion in a world that is 'made good' is somewhat different than rebellion in a place that is 'perfected'.

Later

 

[EagleSmack]

 

[Twila]

Is rebellion good?
Without it the fiery lake would get no residents. Without it people in the new earth would no be divided in who lives in the City and who live 'in the countryside.
Rebellion in a world that is 'made good' is somewhat different than rebellion in a place that is 'perfected'.

Later

Can one rebel against a world that is good and perfect? Would we create create evil so we'd have something to overcome?