Militant atheists should 'get over it' and accept UK is Christian

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Communities Secretary Eric Pickles has said that militant atheists should "get over it" and accept that the UK is a Christian nation

Pickles hit out at opponents of religion who try and “impose” their “politically correct intolerance”.

Mr Pickles in 2012 changed the law to ensure that councils could not face legal challenges for including prayers in public meetings.

He stepped in after the High Court backed a controversial campaign to abolish acts of worship during town hall meetings.


Mr Pickles said: “I’ve stopped an attempt by militant atheists to ban councils having prayers at the start of meetings if they wish. Heaven forbid. We’re a Christian nation. We have an established church. Get over it. And don’t impose your politically correct intolerance on others.”


Militant atheists should 'get over it' and accept UK is Christian


Eric Pickles attacks opponents of religion who try and “impose” their “politically correct intolerance”


Eric Pickles speaks at a remembrance service at the Church of All Saints Photo: Alamy


By Peter Dominiczak, Assistant Political Editor
06 Apr 2014
The Telegraph


Militant atheists should “get over it” and accept that Britain is a Christian nation, a minister has said.

Eric Pickles, the Communities Secretary, hit out at opponents of religion who try and “impose” their “politically correct intolerance”.

Mr Pickles in 2012 changed the law to ensure that councils could not face legal challenges for including prayers in public meetings.

He stepped in after the High Court backed a controversial campaign to abolish acts of worship during town hall meetings.

Mr Pickles said: “I’ve stopped an attempt by militant atheists to ban councils having prayers at the start of meetings if they wish. Heaven forbid. We’re a Christian nation. We have an established church. Get over it. And don’t impose your politically correct intolerance on others.”

He added: “This Government has backed British values. And we’ve stopped Whitehall appeasing extremism of any sort. Be it the EDL, be it extreme Islamists or be it thuggish far-left, they’re all as bad as each other.”

Mr Pickles has in the past accused the previous Labour government of “diminishing Christianity” by suggesting that religion and politics could not mix.

In a reference to the comments by Tony Blair’s former spin chief Alastair Campbell, he said last year: “We go through phases in politics, we had a phase where we didn't 'do God'.

“I don't think that worked out terribly well… in a way I think diminished Christianity

“In a way, the voice of religion was almost something politicians had to apologise for if they made any reference to it.”

The 2011 Census showed that the number of people who described themselves as Christian dropped by 13 per cent to 59 per cent of the population. But Church of England Sunday attendance figures suggest that decades of decline might have bottomed off.

David Cameron in December said that Britain should be grateful to the millions of Christians "who live out the letter" of the Bible by being good to their neighbours, setting up clubs and volunteering.

Lord Carey, the former Archbishop of Canterbury, has warned that Christians in Britain feel under pressure to keep silent about their faith in public.

He said that he was “worried about the future of faith in the West” and highlighted an “increasing timidity” among churchgoers, with some fearing to admit faith in their own workplaces.

Mr Pickles also used a speech to activists at the Conservative Spring Forum to attack the Liberal Democrats and say that he has rejected their plans to increase parking fines.

He also joked that Vince Cable, the Business Secretary, is not “cheerful”.

“We’re in Coalition,” Mr Pickles said. “The big cuts to welfare and slashing public spending wouldn’t have been possible without the full support of Nick Clegg and Danny Alexander.

“I’m not saying Cabinet meetings are like an episode of the Good Life. In real life, Vince isn’t quite as cheerful as the late Richard Briers.”

Militant atheists should 'get over it' and accept UK is Christian - Telegraph
 

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Church of England attendance continues to fall. Attendance figures released by the Church of England show Sunday worship attendance continues its downward slide and now stands at about half of what it was 45 years ago. On average in 2012, 800,000 adults, or about 2 percent of the adult population, attended church on Sunday, according to the report from the Archbishops’ Council Research and Statistics Department. That’s down from 1.6 million Sunday worshippers in 1968. Christmas and Easter services still attract the highest number of worshippers. Christmas Eve and Christmas Day bring in around 2.5 million people, and Easter services attract about 1.4 million.

Faith Digest: Church of England attendance continues to fall
 

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Atheists don't need to be militant.

The regression of religion is a natural occurrence.

It's christians that need to be militant to keep the faith.
 

eh1eh

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Well, that takes care of one set of gods, but what about the other 9999?

Good point.
Well here's the top 20 hit list.

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  1. Christianity: 2.1 billion
  2. Islam: 1.3 billion
  3. Hinduism: 900 million
  4. Chinese traditional religion: 394 million
  5. Buddhism: 376 million
  6. African Traditional & Diasporic: 100 million
  7. Sikhism: 23 million
  8. Juche: 19 million
  9. Spiritism: 15 million
  10. Judaism: 14 million
  11. Baha'i: 7 million
  12. Jainism: 4.2 million
  13. Shinto: 4 million
  14. Cao Dai: 4 million
  15. Zoroastrianism: 2.6 million
  16. Tenrikyo: 2 million
  17. Neo-Paganism: 1 million
  18. Unitarian-Universalism: 800 thousand
  19. Rastafarianism: 600 thousand
  20. Scientology: 500 thousand


I'm too much of a militant "Idon'tgiveafuqist" that I couldn't carry on regardless.


Oh, BTW, Hail Sagan.

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Good point.
Well here's the top 20 hit list.


  1. Christianity: 2.1 billion
  2. Islam: 1.3 billion
  3. Hinduism: 900 million
  4. Chinese traditional religion: 394 million
  5. Buddhism: 376 million
  6. African Traditional & Diasporic: 100 million
  7. Sikhism: 23 million
  8. Juche: 19 million
  9. Spiritism: 15 million
  10. Judaism: 14 million
  11. Baha'i: 7 million
  12. Jainism: 4.2 million
  13. Shinto: 4 million
  14. Cao Dai: 4 million
  15. Zoroastrianism: 2.6 million
  16. Tenrikyo: 2 million
  17. Neo-Paganism: 1 million
  18. Unitarian-Universalism: 800 thousand
  19. Rastafarianism: 600 thousand
  20. Scientology: 500 thousand

I'm too much of a militant "Idon'tgiveafuqist" that I couldn't carry on regardless.


Oh, BTW, Hail Sagan.

Oh no, now you did it!
God: A Reassuring Fable (Carl Sagan) - YouTube
 

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Communities Secretary Eric Pickles has said that militant atheists should "get over it" and accept that the UK is a Christian nation

Of course it is. They have an official state religion, and they discriminate against and periodically criminalise other religions.

Just like many Islamic countries, Saudi Arabia for example.
 

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Communities Secretary Eric Pickles has said that militant atheists should "get over it" and accept that the UK is a Christian nation

Pickles hit out at opponents of religion who try and “impose” their “politically correct intolerance”.

Mr Pickles in 2012 changed the law to ensure that councils could not face legal challenges for including prayers in public meetings.

He stepped in after the High Court backed a controversial campaign to abolish acts of worship during town hall meetings.


Mr Pickles said: “I’ve stopped an attempt by militant atheists to ban councils having prayers at the start of meetings if they wish. Heaven forbid. We’re a Christian nation. We have an established church. Get over it. And don’t impose your politically correct intolerance on others.”


Militant atheists should 'get over it' and accept UK is Christian


Eric Pickles attacks opponents of religion who try and “impose” their “politically correct intolerance”


Eric Pickles speaks at a remembrance service at the Church of All Saints Photo: Alamy


By Peter Dominiczak, Assistant Political Editor
06 Apr 2014
The Telegraph


Militant atheists should “get over it” and accept that Britain is a Christian nation, a minister has said.

Eric Pickles, the Communities Secretary, hit out at opponents of religion who try and “impose” their “politically correct intolerance”.

Mr Pickles in 2012 changed the law to ensure that councils could not face legal challenges for including prayers in public meetings.

He stepped in after the High Court backed a controversial campaign to abolish acts of worship during town hall meetings.

Mr Pickles said: “I’ve stopped an attempt by militant atheists to ban councils having prayers at the start of meetings if they wish. Heaven forbid. We’re a Christian nation. We have an established church. Get over it. And don’t impose your politically correct intolerance on others.”

He added: “This Government has backed British values. And we’ve stopped Whitehall appeasing extremism of any sort. Be it the EDL, be it extreme Islamists or be it thuggish far-left, they’re all as bad as each other.”

Mr Pickles has in the past accused the previous Labour government of “diminishing Christianity” by suggesting that religion and politics could not mix.

In a reference to the comments by Tony Blair’s former spin chief Alastair Campbell, he said last year: “We go through phases in politics, we had a phase where we didn't 'do God'.

“I don't think that worked out terribly well… in a way I think diminished Christianity

“In a way, the voice of religion was almost something politicians had to apologise for if they made any reference to it.”

The 2011 Census showed that the number of people who described themselves as Christian dropped by 13 per cent to 59 per cent of the population. But Church of England Sunday attendance figures suggest that decades of decline might have bottomed off.

David Cameron in December said that Britain should be grateful to the millions of Christians "who live out the letter" of the Bible by being good to their neighbours, setting up clubs and volunteering.

Lord Carey, the former Archbishop of Canterbury, has warned that Christians in Britain feel under pressure to keep silent about their faith in public.

He said that he was “worried about the future of faith in the West” and highlighted an “increasing timidity” among churchgoers, with some fearing to admit faith in their own workplaces.

Mr Pickles also used a speech to activists at the Conservative Spring Forum to attack the Liberal Democrats and say that he has rejected their plans to increase parking fines.

He also joked that Vince Cable, the Business Secretary, is not “cheerful”.

“We’re in Coalition,” Mr Pickles said. “The big cuts to welfare and slashing public spending wouldn’t have been possible without the full support of Nick Clegg and Danny Alexander.

“I’m not saying Cabinet meetings are like an episode of the Good Life. In real life, Vince isn’t quite as cheerful as the late Richard Briers.”

Militant atheists should 'get over it' and accept UK is Christian - Telegraph

Speaking of intolance.
 

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Wah, wah, wah.

Oh the Christians are sooooooooooo persecuted...

Give me a break; they had their centuries of "fun", can you blame people for wanting to give "nothing" a try for a while? Better that than extreme Islam which is taking over, isn't it?
 

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Wah, wah, wah.

Oh the Christians are sooooooooooo persecuted...

Give me a break; they had their centuries of "fun", can you blame people for wanting to give "nothing" a try for a while? Better that than extreme Islam which is taking over, isn't it?



The man is right. You, or any other atheist don't like it, then move the fu ck out of Britain, or don't move there. Personally, I'm tired of the fu cking atheists tellling me what I can and can't do and where I can and can't do it.
 

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Wah, wah, wah.

Oh the Christians are sooooooooooo persecuted...

Give me a break; they had their centuries of "fun", can you blame people for wanting to give "nothing" a try for a while? Better that than extreme Islam which is taking over, isn't it?

You tell them, sister.
PS to Gerry
Swearing ain’t Xian.
 

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The Christians didnt accept the pagan beliefs which were there first.


You havent read a dictionary I take it. That is not the definition of atheism. Atheism is not believing in any sort of god. All that other stuff added on is random conjecture tacked on by idiots. What atheists think about what started the whole thing varies widely from one to another. There is no unifying belief system within atheism - there is only one thing all atheists agree on and it is that they do not believe in a god. Thats it.
 

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The man is right. You, or any other atheist don't like it, then move the fu ck out of Britain, or don't move there. Personally, I'm tired of the fu cking atheists tellling me what I can and can't do and where I can and can't do it.

Actually I'm not atheist; I have about as much tolerance for their over the top "everyone must not believe" as I do for the religious "you must believe". As it is, I actually agree with you; if you believe, that's your business, not anyone else's. That said, your belief ends the moment you meet someone (because no two people have the exact same belief/faith no matter what group they run with) and telling people "This is a Christian nation" is forcing them to be Christian or, as you so elegantly put it "if you don't like it you can move the phuk out of Britain or don't move there". While moving there is a choice for the people who were born there and are just as British as anyone else, they have a right to be PO'd that Christians have had the control for as long as they have.

Again, Christians had their day; it could be worse, at least nothing won't get you beheaded because you disagree with the different version of nothing you follow.
 

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And Christians should get over it and accept that they don't have a lock on the one true faith. If they could ever agree among themselves on what it is.
 

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The man is right. You, or any other atheist don't like it, then move the fu ck out of Britain, or don't move there. Personally, I'm tired of the fu cking atheists tellling me what I can and can't do and where I can and can't do it.

Amen.

And Christians should get over it and accept that they don't have a lock on the one true faith. If they could ever agree among themselves on what it is.

There is only one true Christianity and it's based on the Septuagint.
 

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Christianity does have a bright future in East Asia and SubSaharan Africa. The faith is spreading like wild fire throughout those regions. Christianity has overtaken Islam in the area of Africa south of the Sahara. And at least 100 million Han Chinese are Christians. The majority in South Korea and the Philippines are also Christian. Someday the Pope will be Chinese.