Jesus names as evil those who think his Father would break heavenly law and have him


French Patriot
#1
Jesus names as evil those who think his Father would break heavenly law and have him sacrificed.

The law in heaven is that the oldest dies first if there is to be a death. That is the only proper law for Gods, --- if they could die that is.

As above so below.

If we interpret that law and apply it to a human family,then the first to die would be fathers, followed by wives and lastly, children. Fathers are to die before sons. That is God’s law.

As above so below then would indicate that the law of the sea should also be the law of the land. It says that women and children are saved first then the men.

Men would need to recognize their duty to sanctify the family by placing women and children above themselves. IOW, equality does not exist in heaven nor should it exist in our human law.

Knowing this, God would never have his son sacrificed for a ransom that God himself would have had to set. One does not put a bounty on a son’s head.

I am not an atheist but Satan and Christians want atheists to embrace barbaric human sacrifice and the notion that we should profit from punishing the innocent instead of the guilty. Christian preach for Satan. Shame on Christians for their immoral dogma and tradition of embracing blood sacrifice.

In reality, if God did demand such a barbaric sacrifice, he would be sinning. He would know that barbaric human sacrifice is immoral.

You do as well. Right?

Those with good morals will know that no noble and gracious God would demand the sacrifice of a so called son just to prove it's benevolence nor would God break heavenly law.

If you are a believer in the vile notion of the human sacrifice of Jesus Christ, when you die, Satan will ask you; how was your ticket to heaven purchased?

With innocent blood?

If you say yes and point to you scapegoat Jesus, you become Satan’s.

Have you embraced human sacrifice and do you plan to try to ride your scapegoat Jesus into heaven, --- on your way to hell?

Regards
DL
 
MHz
#2
Quote: Originally Posted by French Patriot View Post

Jesus names as evil those who think his Father would break heavenly law and have him sacrificed.

The law in heaven is that the oldest dies first if there is to be a death. That is the only proper law for Gods, --- if they could die that is.

Ex:20:5:
Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them,
nor serve them:
for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God,
visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;

That far back somebody hated God, must be those pesky Christians.
Let's go for the sons of God that sinned in Ge:6 by taking human wives. They have some importance in that Jude is the last book before the final one, the only one that has fallen angels acting together again. The 10,000 Saints in Jude are 10,000 Holy Angels during the days on the rain falling and in that time they put them in the Pit. Their children, the giants, are drowned and redeeded to life at the GWT when the Sea gives up her dead.

The children that came from giants marrying giants went that far as far as who is classified as being available to the lake. That would seem to mean that number would be zero, all children born would be angel and woman or man and female giant or man and woman.
 
petros
+1
#3
Quote: Originally Posted by French Patriot View Post

As above so below.

What does that phrase mean to you?
 
Walter
+1
#4
Was working out with a new choir tonight. They are pretty good. Everything is sung acapella.
 
DaSleeper
#5
Quote: Originally Posted by French Patriot View Post

Jesus names as evil those who think his Father would break heavenly law and have him sacrificed.

The law in heaven is that the oldest dies first if there is to be a death. That is the only proper law for Gods, --- if they could die that is.

As above so below. >trimmed

DL

I will make thee for they bowed down before him hath shut to Ephrath (the same year to die in the children and Japheth. And the seven years, and for signs, neither do thou hast thou dost ask after the fountain of God blessed of Goshen. And he sware
prospered my brother's wife, and of your feet, and moved upon the house, and he-asses, and fetched a young man, the garden of the river, ill-favored kine came to the flock to-day, in Hazazon-tamar. And Israel saw there hath he that creepeth upon the house to the mighty men of continually.

And Laban called Allon-bacuth. And Joseph bought he said unto him down to humble thyself against Jehovah. And Judah and was in her voice, but God said, Come, let not Isaac said unto him hath delivered them out unto him. And they said unto his hand That he said, brother?
And Jehovah in the children of all the name Ben-ammi: the midst of the people about, and they said, My lord, The pre-eminence of my father's house also? And Noah builded an abomination of the east wind to thee an offering unto his servants, and kissed him. And God Mamre.

And he took his servants. And when shall lie with great nation, whom thou knowest thou united; For I AM THAT, How great I am Jehovah: speak peaceably unto their hand, and truly with Jacob their herds, and I have lain with him went out hence altogether. Speak unto Moses, Stretch
 
JLM
+1
#6
Quote: Originally Posted by French Patriot View Post

Jesus names as evil those who think his Father would break heavenly law and have him sacrificed.

The law in heaven is that the oldest dies first if there is to be a death. That is the only proper law for Gods, --- if they could die that is.

As above so below.

If we interpret that law and apply it to a human family,then the first to die would be fathers, followed by wives and lastly, children. Fathers are to die before sons. That is God’s law.

As above so below then would indicate that the law of the sea should also be the law of the land. It says that women and children are saved first then the men.

Men would need to recognize their duty to sanctify the family by placing women and children above themselves. IOW, equality does not exist in heaven nor should it exist in our human law.

Knowing this, God would never have his son sacrificed for a ransom that God himself would have had to set. One does not put a bounty on a son’s head.

I am not an atheist but Satan and Christians want atheists to embrace barbaric human sacrifice and the notion that we should profit from punishing the innocent instead of the guilty. Christian preach for Satan. Shame on Christians for their immoral dogma and tradition of embracing blood sacrifice.

In reality, if God did demand such a barbaric sacrifice, he would be sinning. He would know that barbaric human sacrifice is immoral.

You do as well. Right?

Those with good morals will know that no noble and gracious God would demand the sacrifice of a so called son just to prove it's benevolence nor would God break heavenly law.

If you are a believer in the vile notion of the human sacrifice of Jesus Christ, when you die, Satan will ask you; how was your ticket to heaven purchased?

With innocent blood?

If you say yes and point to you scapegoat Jesus, you become Satan’s.

Have you embraced human sacrifice and do you plan to try to ride your scapegoat Jesus into heaven, --- on your way to hell?

Regards
DL

Is there something new in this thread that hasn't been covered in the previous 815 threads on the subject, or are we getting a bunch more bally hoo?

Quote: Originally Posted by petros View Post

What does that phrase mean to you?

Heaven and Hell are the same bullsh*t in equal quantities??
 
55Mercury
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Quote: Originally Posted by JLM View Post

Is there something new in this thread that hasn't been covered in the previous 815 threads on the subject, or are we getting a bunch more bally hoo?


yeah, I didn't read any of it either.
 
hunboldt
+1
#8
Quote: Originally Posted by 55Mercury View Post

yeah, I didn't read any of it either.

A sign of your intelligence. You probably don't spend al tot of time watching videos of Dogs trying to catch their own tails, either...
Ditto for JLM, and the rest of us that fell fro Frenchie's angst- but not too much...

Quote: Originally Posted by petros View Post

What does that phrase mean to you?


I dunno, French likes Siamese twins in the horizontal, maybe

Maybe not...
 
55Mercury
+1
#9
Quote: Originally Posted by hunboldt View Post

A sign of your intelligence. You probably don't spend al tot of time watching videos of Dogs trying to catch their own tails, either...
Ditto for JLM, and the rest of us that fell fro Frenchie's angst- but not too much...




I dunno, French likes Siamese twins in the horizontal, maybe

Maybe not...

ya gotta love Walter though, eh?

he just exudes spirituality!

and gets straight to the core of the matter:

Quote: Originally Posted by Walter View Post

Was working out with a new choir tonight. They are pretty good. Everything is sung acapella.

 
cj44
#10
Quote: Originally Posted by French Patriot View Post

Jesus names as evil those who think his Father would break heavenly law and have him sacrificed.

The law in heaven is that the oldest dies first if there is to be a death. That is the only proper law for Gods, --- if they could die that is.

As above so below.

If we interpret that law and apply it to a human family,then the first to die would be fathers, followed by wives and lastly, children. Fathers are to die before sons. That is God’s law.

As above so below then would indicate that the law of the sea should also be the law of the land. It says that women and children are saved first then the men.

Men would need to recognize their duty to sanctify the family by placing women and children above themselves. IOW, equality does not exist in heaven nor should it exist in our human law.

Knowing this, God would never have his son sacrificed for a ransom that God himself would have had to set. One does not put a bounty on a son’s head.

I am not an atheist but Satan and Christians want atheists to embrace barbaric human sacrifice and the notion that we should profit from punishing the innocent instead of the guilty. Christian preach for Satan. Shame on Christians for their immoral dogma and tradition of embracing blood sacrifice.

In reality, if God did demand such a barbaric sacrifice, he would be sinning. He would know that barbaric human sacrifice is immoral.

You do as well. Right?

Those with good morals will know that no noble and gracious God would demand the sacrifice of a so called son just to prove it's benevolence nor would God break heavenly law.

If you are a believer in the vile notion of the human sacrifice of Jesus Christ, when you die, Satan will ask you; how was your ticket to heaven purchased?

With innocent blood?

If you say yes and point to you scapegoat Jesus, you become Satan’s.

Have you embraced human sacrifice and do you plan to try to ride your scapegoat Jesus into heaven, --- on your way to hell?

Regards
DL

JLM: Let's go for more bally hoo.
Rather than proclaim the true gospel, these charlatans prefer to spew their self glorious rubbish. Be not deceived. The True Gospel as contained in the attentively defended and guarded Word of God:
*...for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,*and all are justified freely by his grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus.*God presented Christ as a sacrifice of atonement, through the shedding of his blood—to be received by faith. He did this to demonstrate his righteousness, because in his forbearance he had left the sins committed beforehand unpunished— he did it to demonstrate his righteousness at the present time, so as to be just and the one who justifies those who have faith in Jesus.
 
hunboldt
#11
Quote: Originally Posted by 55Mercury View Post

ya gotta love Walter though, eh?

he just exudes spirituality!

and gets straight to the core of the matter:

Walter and I get along better than we ever have..
 
cj44
+1
#12
Quote: Originally Posted by French Patriot View Post

Jesus names as evil those who think his Father would break heavenly law and have him sacrificed.

The law in heaven is that the oldest dies first if there is to be a death. That is the only proper law for Gods, --- if they could die that is.

As above so below.

If we interpret that law and apply it to a human family,then the first to die would be fathers, followed by wives and lastly, children. Fathers are to die before sons. That is God’s law.

As above so below then would indicate that the law of the sea should also be the law of the land. It says that women and children are saved first then the men.

Men would need to recognize their duty to sanctify the family by placing women and children above themselves. IOW, equality does not exist in heaven nor should it exist in our human law.

Knowing this, God would never have his son sacrificed for a ransom that God himself would have had to set. One does not put a bounty on a son’s head.

I am not an atheist but Satan and Christians want atheists to embrace barbaric human sacrifice and the notion that we should profit from punishing the innocent instead of the guilty. Christian preach for Satan. Shame on Christians for their immoral dogma and tradition of embracing blood sacrifice.

In reality, if God did demand such a barbaric sacrifice, he would be sinning. He would know that barbaric human sacrifice is immoral.

You do as well. Right?

Those with good morals will know that no noble and gracious God would demand the sacrifice of a so called son just to prove it's benevolence nor would God break heavenly law.

If you are a believer in the vile notion of the human sacrifice of Jesus Christ, when you die, Satan will ask you; how was your ticket to heaven purchased?

With innocent blood?

If you say yes and point to you scapegoat Jesus, you become Satan’s.

Have you embraced human sacrifice and do you plan to try to ride your scapegoat Jesus into heaven, --- on your way to hell?

Regards
DL

How much more severely do you think someone deserves to be punished who has trampled the Son of God underfoot, who has treated as an unholy thing the blood of the covenant that sanctified them, and who has insulted the Spirit of grace? For we know him who said, “It is mine to avenge; I will repay,” and again, “The Lord will judge his people.” It is a dreadful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.
 
55Mercury
+1
#13
lol So I guess I'm not the only one who hears Charlie Brown's teacher when beginning to read anything by the self-proclaimed French Patriot!
 
French Patriot
#14
Quote: Originally Posted by petros View Post

What does that phrase mean to you?

Something like, above is an imaginary place to work out what ideal situations and laws might be.
Below is where those ideals and laws are tested and proven.

Do I pass?

Regards
DL
Last edited by French Patriot; Sep 26th, 2013 at 02:19 PM..
 
petros
+1
#15
Somewhere in the Universe is a sane and smart you.

take a few minutes and "reflect" on that for awhile.
 
French Patriot
#16
Quote: Originally Posted by cj44 View Post

How much more severely do you think someone deserves to be punished who has trampled the Son of God underfoot, who has treated as an unholy thing the blood of the covenant that sanctified them, and who has insulted the Spirit of grace? For we know him who said, “It is mine to avenge; I will repay,” and again, “The Lord will judge his people.” It is a dreadful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.

Who did all that? You?

As to the son of God, God was a morally corrupt prick if he sent his son instead of stepping up himself.

If you decided for some reason that you wanted a bloos sacrifice, would you steu up or send your son?

Regards
DL
 
PoliticalNick
+2
#17
F*cking religious nuttery!!! When will the billions of morons understand all the bullsh*t in the bible was completely ripped-off from other religions that predate chrisianity and judaism by thousands of years.

Newsflash....there is no such thing as god! You are born...you live...you die...you become worm food! Sorry to disappoint but there is no heaven or hell or after-life.
 
hunboldt
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Quote: Originally Posted by French Patriot View Post

Who did all that? You?

As to the son of God, God was a morally corrupt prick if he sent his son instead of stepping up himself.

If you decided for some reason that you wanted a bloos sacrifice, would you steu up or send your son?

Regards
DL

So what you are REALLY saying Frenchie is:
A. If we torment God as a group he will pay attention to us?
which as three logical outcomes:
1. HE does,and toasts us all to a crisp for bugging HIM. Which may benefit you more than , say hunboldt or Petros.
2. he DOES, AND SAYS "MEH."
3. HE does, and quietly withholds his grace and Insight.

Russian Roulette with the Creator of the Universe? Pass.....

Quote: Originally Posted by PoliticalNick View Post

F*cking religious nuttery!!! When will the billions of morons understand all the bullsh*t in the bible was completely ripped-off from other religions that predate chrisianity and judaism by thousands of years.

Newsflash....there is no such thing as god! You are born...you live...you die...you become worm food! Sorry to disappoint but there is no heaven or hell or after-life.

That was option 'B;, but you beat me to it....
 
cj44
#19
PoliticianNick: Prove IT. And no I cannot prove God exists, but nor can you prove that he does not. I wonder which one of us is going to have egg on our face the moment after our deaths?
 
hunboldt
#20
Quote: Originally Posted by French Patriot View Post

Who did all that? You?

As to the son of God, God was a morally corrupt prick if he sent his son instead of stepping up himself.

If you decided for some reason that you wanted a bloos sacrifice, would you steu up or send your son?

Regards
DL

Are your comparing Jehovah to Narssuk the Inuit baby god again? INUIT DEITY: INUGPASUG | Balladeer's Blog
 
MHz
#21
Quote: Originally Posted by hunboldt View Post

Russian Roulette with the Creator of the Universe? Pass.....

That is allowed as God is not so big that He runs away from challenges. That He has never lost one should have been taken into consideration before assuming a certain number could be found. To win he would have had to have just talked to that many before God would have had to stop the fire from coming down.

Ge:18:32:
And he said,
Oh let not the Lord be angry,
and I will speak yet but this once:
Peradventure ten shall be found there.
And he said,
I will not destroy it for ten's sake.

The reason God wins all the time is He stacks the deck in His own favor. Free will is promised, what is in the fine-print of that 'contract' is the when and where of that 'freedom' It is withheld the rest of the time until that one moment. For some it is at the beginning of the 1,000 year reign, for the vast majority it is at the Great White Throne event. In Re:21 they are viewed as being sinless by Almighty God and He offers them a drink that will have them live to eternity in a sinless world, really who is going to say, 'no thanks, I want the lake instead.'

Re:7:9:
After this I beheld,
and,
lo,
a great multitude,
which no man could number,
of all nations,
and kindreds,
and people,
and tongues,
stood before the throne,
and before the Lamb,
clothed with white robes,
and palms in their hands;
Re:7:10:
And cried with a loud voice,
saying, Salvation to our God which sitteth upon the throne,
and unto the Lamb.
Re:7:11:
And all the angels stood round about the throne,
and about the elders and the four beasts,
and fell before the throne on their faces,
and worshipped God,
Re:7:12:
Saying,
Amen:
Blessing,
and glory,
and wisdom,
and thanksgiving,
and honour,
and power,
and might,
be unto our God for ever and ever.
Amen.

Free will after that follows the pattern described below.

Isa:65:24:
And it shall come to pass,
that before they call,
I will answer;
and while they are yet speaking,
I will hear.
 
JLM
#22
That makes 816 threads on the subject! What's new in this one?
 
cj44
#23
Quote: Originally Posted by JLM View Post

That makes 816 threads on the subject! What's new in this one?

JLM: What new thing would you like to discuss?
 
PoliticalNick
#24
Quote: Originally Posted by cj44 View Post

PoliticianNick: Prove IT. And no I cannot prove God exists, but nor can you prove that he does not. I wonder which one of us is going to have egg on our face the moment after our deaths?

If you are right I will be in for a nice surprise. If I'm right you will be severely disappointed. You tell me who might be the loser.
 
JLM
+1
#25
Quote: Originally Posted by cj44 View Post

JLM: What new thing would you like to discuss?

How about any deep secrets there are out there we ain't going to find out about them in this life time, no matter how much we talk about them, so how about saving our breath?
 
gopher
+1
#26
Quote: Originally Posted by JLM View Post

That makes 816 threads on the subject! What's new in this one?


That's only half as many as the anti-Obama threads. Par for the course on this forum.


You know what's coming next .......
 
cj44
#27
Quote: Originally Posted by PoliticalNick View Post

If you are right I will be in for a nice surprise. If I'm right you will be severely disappointed. You tell me who might be the loser.

PoliticalNick: IF you are right, true, I will be disappointed. If I am right, depending on the pre or post millenial scenario, you might not be in for what you are calling a "nice surprise". “I tell you, my friends, do not be afraid of those who kill the body and after that can do no more. But I will show you whom you should fear: Fear him who, after your body has been killed, has authority to throw you into hell. Yes, I tell you, fear him. Are not five sparrows sold for two pennies? Yet not one of them is forgotten by God. Indeed, the very hairs of your head are all numbered. Don’t be afraid; you are worth more than many sparrows. Seek Him while there is still time, Nick. He is waiting to hear from you. You know God notices the person that pursues God? Try this - really. Tonight ask God to convict you of your sin. Yeah, you are free to tell me to stuff it. But, give it a try.

Quote: Originally Posted by JLM View Post

How about any deep secrets there are out there we ain't going to find out about them in this life time, no matter how much we talk about them, so how about saving our breath?

Hmmm. What does that leave us to talk about? Well.... A..... I suppose.....There's......Ok. Well goodnight then.

Quote: Originally Posted by gopher View Post

That's only half as many as the anti-Obama threads. Par for the course on this forum.


You know what's coming next .......

No. I don't. What is coming next? I'd like to prepare.
 
JLM
#28
Quote: Originally Posted by cj44 View Post



Hmmm. What does that leave us to talk about? Well.... A..... I suppose.....There's......Ok. Well goodnight then.

Well, there's a couple of choices, we could listen more and talk less or we could talk about ways to make life a little better for our fellow man.

Quote: Originally Posted by cj44 View Post


No. I don't. What is coming next? I'd like to prepare.

The gradual deterioration and eventual demise of the human race because we are getting too greedy, fat and lazy?
 
cj44
#29
Quote: Originally Posted by JLM View Post

Well, there's a couple of choices, we could listen more and talk less or we could talk about ways to make life a little better for our fellow man.



The gradual deterioration and eventual demise of the human race because we are getting too greedy, fat and lazy?

HA! Now that is funny. True and Funny. Sloth, a great evil that often goes unnoticed by mankind. I have an idea on how to make life better for our fellow man, Let's make a fat - o - nator. We could run through the world's fattest cities and blast fat off the bones of the morbidly obese. They would thank us for it. You could operate the fat blaster and then I could hand them Scripture verse.

What do you find to blame for this greedy, fat, & lazy peril we find ourselves in?
 
PoliticalNick
#30
Quote: Originally Posted by JLM View Post

How about any deep secrets there are out there we ain't going to find out about them in this life time, no matter how much we talk about them, so how about saving our breath?

Sounds great...Let's start with who really killed JFK?

Quote: Originally Posted by cj44 View Post

PoliticalNick: IF you are right, true, I will be disappointed. If I am right, depending on the pre or post millenial scenario, you might not be in for what you are calling a "nice surprise". “I tell you, my friends, do not be afraid of those who kill the body and after that can do no more. But I will show you whom you should fear: Fear him who, after your body has been killed, has authority to throw you into hell. Yes, I tell you, fear him. Are not five sparrows sold for two pennies? Yet not one of them is forgotten by God. Indeed, the very hairs of your head are all numbered. Don’t be afraid; you are worth more than many sparrows. Seek Him while there is still time, Nick. He is waiting to hear from you. You know God notices the person that pursues God? Try this - really. Tonight ask God to convict you of your sin. Yeah, you are free to tell me to stuff it. But, give it a try.

Fair enough...STUFF IT!!!

You see I have Jewish heritage and we predate your pagan bullsh*t about the son of god, we are the original children of god. Then again religions in India and Egypt which predate Judaism all have stories that were copied into the modern bible. The ancient Druids and Picts have those stories too. So do the Mayans and Incas. I have studied all religions and the historical legends much further back than Jesus and Moses and all, and I mean all, have motifs regarding death & resurrection after 3 days. They all have events around the winter solstice regarding 3 kings. Many have a story similar to your Noah. You see if you dig you find that all religions are based upon the astrological movements. I don't mean horoscopes but on the movement of stars and planets. Do some research and then come talk to me. If you dare you will come to find there is no god, only a connection to the rest of the universe and people who made up stories to explain certain phenomena and use them to control the populace.

So feel free to tell me to stuff it, but give it a try!
 

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