Is Canada ready for the coming electric vehicle revolution?


captain morgan
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#31
You do the math on an after tax basis and tell me, based on your reference to $120k how practical it is to expect that the average Canadian family that needs 2 cars to earn that kind of money.

Fact is, your assumption relative to the cost of that car is way over the top
 
JLM
#32
They are definitely far over rated! Good for old ladies returning library books!
 
Angstrom
#33
Quote: Originally Posted by captain morgan View Post

You do the math on an after tax basis and tell me, based on your reference to $120k how practical it is to expect that the average Canadian family that needs 2 cars to earn that kind of money.

Fact is, your assumption relative to the cost of that car is way over the top

Looks like we can kiss the electric car dream goodbye.

Its going to be 25 year before they can mass produce it for the same cost of a gas car
 
lone wolf
+2
#34
Are electric vehicles ready for Canada? Electric heat will drain those batteries faster than making the wheels turn
 
JLM
#35
Quote: Originally Posted by TenPenny View Post

How does a cripple get on a bike?


Very carefully!
 
Danbones
#36
Quote: Originally Posted by TenPenny View Post

How does a cripple get on a bike?

Maybe he rides one with a seat
try it sometimes...its much more comfortable..you'll see.
and you can take the bike off sometimes too

for those rare moments when someone pulls a chair out for you.

there is also a thing called a scooter for those that can't ride a bike

you stupid or what?
 
petros
#37
You be nice or we'll put your seat back on.
 
Danbones
#38
Sure after we move your head..
then I'll go get the bike

..and..I was being nice
 
TenPenny
#39
Tesla won't happen without massive subsidies from gov't.
 
Johnnny
+1
#40
Guys go out an buy a diesel vehicle. Help Ontario become great again!!!
 
Bar Sinister
#41
Quote: Originally Posted by JLM View Post

No and hopefully never will be. Oil production is our forte and water is becoming a precious commodity. How much longer can we be producing more and more electricity?




What fuel do you feel will be used in the charging systems?

Depends on the province doesn't it?
 
Retired_Can_Soldier
+1
#42
Quote:

ranges comparable to gasoline-powered cars.

Liars.
 
TenPenny
#43
Quote: Originally Posted by Danbones View Post

Maybe he rides one with a seat
try it sometimes...its much more comfortable..you'll see.
and you can take the bike off sometimes too

for those rare moments when someone pulls a chair out for you.

there is also a thing called a scooter for those that can't ride a bike

you stupid or what?



The question was,


How does a cripple GET ON a bike?


Jesus, you're thick.
 
captain morgan
#44
 
MHz
#45
Start here as personal transportation.
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Swincar E-Spider



Canadian golf kart
 
Hoid
#46
https://www.engadget.com/2017/10/27/...lectric-truck/

Mercedes eCantor delivery trucks start operation in US and Japan for UPS and 7-11. They are a typical cab over cube van except they are electric. They can carry 9000 lbs and do shorter routes - under 100 miles. They have a 60 -80 mile range and can quick charge up to 80% in an hour. They are seen as ideal for dense cities like New York and Tokyo but not so much for a place like LA.

and to answer the topic question - yes and no. Canada has some really good hi tech companies but by and large we are shackled to oil and gas and will have to endure massive resistance to change from these dying sectors. Their ability to control our politics is especially damaging to progress.
 
Angstrom
#47
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

https://www.engadget.com/2017/10/27/...lectric-truck/

Mercedes eCantor delivery trucks start operation in US and Japan for UPS and 7-11. They are a typical cab over cube van except they are electric. They can carry 9000 lbs and do shorter routes - under 100 miles. They have a 60 -80 mile range and can quick charge up to 80% in an hour. They are seen as ideal for dense cities like New York and Tokyo but not so much for a place like LA.

and to answer the topic question - yes and no. Canada has some really good hi tech companies but by and large we are shackled to oil and gas and will have to endure massive resistance to change from these dying sectors. Their ability to control our politics is especially damaging to progress.

If it was worth it, everyone would have jumped on board already when Alberta got shut down due to low oil sell cost. 5 billion dollars of investment money left the oil industry . You got NFC as usual

Lithium battery manufacturing costs way to much. Thats not caused by oil manufacturers.

Its caused by the process taking way to much time, and yields being way to little. Until someone figures out a process with much better results, the electric car is dead in the water, Unless you have a population like in Dubai who can afford 120000$ cars, while selling us oil.
 
Hoid
+1
#48
Quote: Originally Posted by TenPenny View Post

Tesla won't happen without massive subsidies from gov't.

Like the current car makers have always received?

Nothing new there

I believe the new Tesla is supposed to be in the mid $30,000's.

The $120K is for the Ferrari eater.
 
taxslave
#49
Quote: Originally Posted by petros View Post

Brain cripples.



Whistler Transit. Google it

Got taken out earlier this year because of high maintenance costs.
 
Hoid
#50
The Model 3 Tesla is supposed to cost $49K on November/December and be available for $35K Starting January. I think thats us dollars.

VW is selling the eGulf in Canada starting at $35,995

So prices are getting pretty comparable already.
 
Angstrom
#51
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

The Model 3 Tesla is supposed to cost $49K on November/December and be available for $35K Starting January. I think thats us dollars.

VW is selling the eGulf in Canada starting at $35,995

So prices are getting pretty comparable already.

35000$ for a car with 1/4 of a gas powered car range capacity?

So for a car with comparable capacity to a gas powered car.
Lets do the equation.

35000$ times 4.

Equals 140000$.

35000$ for 1/4 of a car is not «*pretty comparable pricing*» for anyone not drinking the kool aid and who has a IQ higher then Forest Gump

When they have a 35000$ battery car that runs 500km on one charge ill buy one. Until that day go fuk yourself with you bullshit koolaid
 
Hoid
#52
Quote: Originally Posted by Angstrom View Post

35000$ for a car with 1/4 of a gas powered car range capacity?

So for a car with comparable capacity to a gas powered car.
Lets do the equation.

35000$ times 4.

Equals 140000$.

35000$ for 1/4 of a car is not «*pretty comparable pricing*» for anyone not drinking the kool aid and who has a IQ higher then Forest Gump

When they have a 35000$ battery car that runs 500km on one charge ill buy one. Until that day go fuk yourself with you bullshit koolaid


Your math is as laughable as your politics.
 
Angstrom
#53
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

Your math is as laughable as your politics.

Apparently not because no one are buying them.

If you’re not selling a product. Rule number one says, you haven’t created real value for your clients.
Give me real comparable value and the things will fly off the shelf’s. Ill be the first to buy one

Until you’re main selling point isn’t about bullshit koolaid save the planet. And more about the electric car kicking the crap out of gas fuel cars capacity and prices. They wont sell.

Its just how real life works. Playing politics with electric cars wont help sell them.
 
Hoid
#54
Quote: Originally Posted by Angstrom View Post

Apparently not because no one are buying them.

OMG

You need a reservation to buy one you jabbering idiot.
 
Angstrom
#55
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

OMG

You need a reservation to buy one you jabbering idiot.

Well that limits its market share doesn’t it. Its not a revolution if you can’t even buy one due to lack of capacity too supply
 
Hoid
#56
Quote: Originally Posted by Angstrom View Post

Well that limits its market share doesn’t it. Its not a revolution if you can’t even buy one due to lack of capacity too supply

You're like a rubber ball bouncing off a wall.

Everything about the electric car is good. I think thats whats got you all confused.
 
Angstrom
#57
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

You're like a rubber ball bouncing off a wall.
Everything about the electric car is good. I think thats whats got you all confused.

Im following you’re lead in this conversation so stop jumping everywhere if you don’t like it

If everything is good then why is there a 7 year waiting list to buy one. Everyone can buy one. Why can’t they produce the batteries faster?
Last edited by Angstrom; Oct 29th, 2017 at 03:08 AM..
 
pgs
#58
Quote: Originally Posted by Angstrom View Post

Im following you’re lead in this conversation so stop jumping everywhere if you don’t like it

If everything is good then why is there a 7 year waiting list to buy one. Everyone can buy one. Why can’t they produce the batteries faster?

They are in the subsidy business not the car business .
 
Walter
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#59
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post


Everything about the electric car is good.

How much energy is used to make the vehicle? How is the electricity made? What's the battery life? How far can you travel on one charge? How is the battery disposed of?
Not all good, except the Kool-aid.
 
Curious Cdn
#60
Quote: Originally Posted by Walter View Post

How much energy is used to make the vehicle? How is the electricity made? What's the battery life? How far can you travel on one charge? How is the battery disposed of?
Not all good, except the Kool-aid.

Here's a thought, Walter. If you don't like electric vehicles, don't buy one yourself.