Trade WAR??!!

MHz
#121
The 'win' would be consumers getting quality goods at the lowest prices possible. I don't see that ever happening. All the hype and drama always ends and and the elite will still have a few more goodies than the ones who have no shoes and no electricity at the moment. If they are to inherit the world we should educated them as much as possible rather than keeping them as uneducated as possible. If 'we' are supposed to be the smart one why do we believe in lies and tell lies ourselves?? Let me guess, we only tell good lies and everybody else tells bad lies.
 
Curious Cdn
Conservative
#122
Quote: Originally Posted by MHz View Post

The 'win' would be consumers getting quality goods at the lowest prices possible. I don't see that ever happening. All the hype and drama always ends and and the elite will still have a few more goodies than the ones who have no shoes and no electricity at the moment. If they are to inherit the world we should educated them as much as possible rather than keeping them as uneducated as possible. If 'we' are supposed to be the smart one why do we believe in lies and tell lies ourselves?? Let me guess, we only tell good lies and everybody else tells bad lies.

"The Consumer" is a flock of sheep to be shorn.
 
MHz
#123
The fix would be Magna Carta II, protection for the Merchants was the 1st one.
 
DaSleeper
#124
Take your pills ............fool!
 
MHz
#125
Maybe if you called it food I would become a fool and take it. Try it, . . .
 
Bar Sinister
No Party Affiliation
#126
Quote: Originally Posted by Twin_Moose View Post

Would this be considered as a win for Trump


Exactly what has he won? If he wins as much with China as he won with Canada and Mexico then things will be pretty much unchanged.
 
Curious Cdn
Conservative
#127
Quote: Originally Posted by Bar Sinister View Post

Exactly what has he won? If he wins as much with China as he won with Canada and Mexico then things will be pretty much unchanged.

Until the new trade pzct is ratified (none of the three participants have done so) the "treaty" is nothing. There is a good chance that Congress will not ratify it and Canada and Mexico won't touch it with a barge pole, given half a chance.

NAFTA lives on and all that has happened is that Trump has convinced his high school educated demographic that he's the biggest, baddest tuff-guy of international trade,
ever.
 
Twin_Moose
Conservative
#128
Quote: Originally Posted by Bar Sinister View Post

Exactly what has he won? If he wins as much with China as he won with Canada and Mexico then things will be pretty much unchanged.

For now China is ready to start talks on trade some were remarking on how China doesn't need the US
 
MHz
#129
India alone would double China's production.

The US would buy stuff and bury it at sea rather than let anybody else advance themselves. That no longer works so if the US doesn't adapt power will just move to another location and the US can start paying off the $25T they owe to their masters.
 
Bar Sinister
No Party Affiliation
#130
Quote: Originally Posted by MHz View Post

India alone would double China's production.

The US would buy stuff and bury it at sea rather than let anybody else advance themselves. That no longer works so if the US doesn't adapt power will just move to another location and the US can start paying off the $25T they owe to their masters.




I see you still believe in the myth of the Chinese debt. Most of the US national debt is internal.
 
MHz
#131
http://williamengdahl.com/englishNEO12Nov2018.php
Stop-gap moves
The US Administration plans to address the 300 gaps with certain immediate measures including closing key supply-chain gaps and using Defense Authorization funds to expand key domestic manufacturing capacities such as lithium seawater batteries or cutting-edge fuel cells for the Navy’s future unmanned, underwater vehicles. It will also reinvigorate the 1939 Defense Stockpile Program for foreign-produced limited-source strategic and critical materials.
The main conclusion of the report is that, “China represents a significant and growing risk to the supply of materials deemed strategic and critical to U.S. national security.” This also explains why the focus of the ongoing Trump Administration trade war against China in fact concentrates on pressuring China to abandon its Made in China 2025 agenda with focus on making China dominant in advanced technologies over the coming decades.
On a deeper level, though it deals with the US defense industrial base, the report is a major expose of the true state of the overall domestic US industrial base following more than four decades of free trade, manufacturing offshore outsourcing and globalization. The good news is that World War III is not likely anytime soon despite all sabre-rattling. This is a good time to address the US debate to the far larger problem: how to correct the economic globalization that has all but destroyed the overall American industrial base and how to revive that civilian economy, something the warhawk neocons have no interest in reviving.








F. William Engdahl is strategic risk consultant and lecturer, he holds a degree in politics from Princeton University and is a best-selling author on oil and geopolitics, exclusively for the online magazine “New Eastern Outlook”
 

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