Legalization of drugs is the way to combat cartels, former Mexican president says


pgs
#61
Quote: Originally Posted by spilledthebeer View Post

Yes I have ..................................


and DEPRESSION seems to be a BIG PART of their day!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


One guy routinely DESPAIRS of ever getting his life back on track........................


and routinely checks himself into the Whitby Psychiatric Facility for help............................


since he is tired of living in poverty and working part time to pay for some fleabag room!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


The second guy I have lost track of............................


he has wandered away after the company we worked for closed its doors...............................


being unemployed and hopeless makes it hard to focus on a career or steady anything!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



The third was tough minded enough to keep things together and was back with his wife - the last I heard...........................


and having a wife and kids offers a steadying influence!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



The fourth was a wild card - who knows where he goes or when OR IF he will come back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


His wife is well known at the welfare office where she goes regularly for help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


The fifth guy is a mini crime wave.....................................


and he is on Methadone and he also is ON PAROLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


If he messes up and gets caught again any time soon...............................


he will be checking in for a stay at Collins Bay Penitentiary!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Bottom line - drugs are EVIL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Bottom line - PREVENTION is FAR BETTER than a cure!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Bottom line - by the time a hard core addict is ready for the cure ..................................


their lives are usually SO SCREWED UP that the cure is almost as hard as the disease!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Anybody who thinks that legalizing hard drugs is a viable answer to anything.......................................... ...


should BE COMPELLED to live for a few months in one of the TCHC - City of Toronto maintained.....................


and NOT SO AFFORDABLE apartment high rise buildings!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And in related news - any LIE-beral MORON who thinks they can get away with jamming illegal immigrants into..........................


those rotting, mould infested, cockroach haven, mouse motel, crime ridden, high rise UNAFFORDABLE TENEMENTS ........................................


and still manage to PREVENT the illegals FROM EVENTUALLY BEING RADICALIZED into criminal terrorists..................................


who HATE "white society" is Dreaming in Technicolour!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Life is not black and white . Some of what you say is somewhat correct , however it leaves little room for gray areas .
 
Cliffy
+1
#62
Look at Portugal and a few others countries where all drugs were legalized and addiction is treated as a medical problem and not a legal one. Jails are emptying and addiction and drug use is way down. Canada and the US are dinosaurs when it comes to dealing with drugs and addiction. Time to get smart and join the club.
 
petros
+2
#63
Stupid hippie. Nobody in Canada or US goes to jail for being high or possessing personal use amounts and yes its treated as a health issue. Grow up.
 
Danbones
+1
#64
Nope, no private jails full of those at all.

Prison Quotas Push Lawmakers To Fill Beds, Derail Reform
https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/entry/...483?ri18n=true


3 Of The Most Insane Marijuana-Related Prison Sentences In American History
Civilized

Cheri Sicard has been a marijuana advocate for a number of years, but it wasn’t until recently that she discovered Marijuana Lifers. While researching for her seventh book, Sicard came across Randy Lanier who had been the 1986 Indy 500 Rookie of the Year, but was sentenced to life in prison by the following year.

He was charged for a nonviolent marijuana conspiracy offense, but at that point he had been forgotten. With the help of some business partners, Sicard created a website for Lanier and started some outreach for him. Then, she began adding more Marijuana Lifers to the group, eventually becoming an official non-profit organization in 2016, the Marijuana Lifer Project.

The Project aims to insure that all those Marijuana Lifers are released in addition to bringing awareness to this issue. Even though marijuana legalization is increasing and more people are supporting the drug, Marijuana Lifers are still entering the system as recently as 2016.

Now the Project has 16 Marijuana Lifers including Craig Cesal and Corvain Cooper. Even though he was sentenced to life, Cesal was convicted of a crime the government never alleged he had anything to do with marijuana, and yet he’s still incarcerated because the war on drugs continues.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLaswKNjH2w


An Oklahoma woman who got a 12-year prison sentence for $31 of pot was jailed again — for overdue court fees
https://www.insider.com/oklahoma-wom...rt-fees-2019-9


Police arrest more people for marijuana use than for all violent ...

12 Oct 2016 ... In fact, police make more arrests for marijuana possession alone than for all violent crimes combined. ... Researchers say the plan is 'insane. ... Seven of those people earned their sentences for possessing quantities of drugs ...
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...imes-combined/
Last edited by Danbones; Dec 24th, 2019 at 03:22 AM..
 
petros
+1
#65
Had personal amounts did they?
 
Tecumsehsbones
#66
Quote: Originally Posted by petros View Post

Stupid hippie. Nobody in Canada or US goes to jail for being high or possessing personal use amounts and yes its treated as a health issue. Grow up.

Good to know.

False, of course, but no amount of fact will sway you a micron.

https://www.dallasnews.com/news/crim...ug-possession/
 
petros
+1
#67
Merry Christmas Oklahomo. Raise your hand if it was your first offence. No? Now jail over a gram makes sense doesn't it?
Last edited by petros; Dec 24th, 2019 at 11:11 AM..
 
taxslave
+2
#68
Quote: Originally Posted by petros View Post

Stupid hippie. Nobody in Canada or US goes to jail for being high or possessing personal use amounts and yes its treated as a health issue. Grow up.

but they do go to jail for the crimes committed to fuel their habits.
 
petros
+1
#69
You'd really really really need to piss off the prosecutor to get time for a gram.
 
Dixie Cup
+4
#70
Quote: Originally Posted by taxslave View Post

It is not exactly legal in Canada yet either. The government set up their so called legalization to be a cash cow. Only problem is they sell an inferior product at a userous price. The smart thing would have been to just make it legal and get the growers to pay income tax on their profit just like any other farmer.



Yeah, from what I understand, the "legal" stuff is quite a bit more $ than the illegal stuff so I doubt if legalization has done what it was supposed to. The medicinal stuff isn't cheap by any means, that's for sure!
 
Tecumsehsbones
#71
Quote: Originally Posted by petros View Post

Merry Christmas Oklahomo. Raise your hand if it was your first offence. No? Now jail over a gram makes sense doesn't it?

Quod erat demonstrandum.
 
petros
+1
#72
Vescere bracis meis
 
spilledthebeer
#73
Quote: Originally Posted by pgs View Post

Life is not black and white . Some of what you say is somewhat correct , however it leaves little room for gray areas .


OH - LIE-berals DO LOVE THEIR GREY AREAS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


It is in the grey areas that LIE-berals HIDE THEIR BIGGEST LIES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Every one of the FIVE ADDICTS I mentioned - REGRET GETTING STARTED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


ONLY ONE of the five has any real control over addiction................................


and he is aided by his wife and kids to retain that ability to JUST SAY NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


It was the prospect of losing his job, his wife and his kids that gave him the strength to say no!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



What I say about drugs is ENTIRELY CORRECT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And only a LIE-beral groveling shamelessly FOR VOTES from SUCKERS ................................


would dispute any of what I have said!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


With ANY hardcore drug like Crack or Amphetamines or Heroin...................................


THERE ARE VIRTUALLY NO RECREATIONAL USERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


ONLY a VERY RARE FEW can dabble................................


and then put the stuff away!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
spilledthebeer
+1
#74
Quote: Originally Posted by Dixie Cup View Post

Yeah, from what I understand, the "legal" stuff is quite a bit more $ than the illegal stuff so I doubt if legalization has done what it was supposed to. The medicinal stuff isn't cheap by any means, that's for sure!




The largest legal Weed producer in Ontari-owe was recently ordered to RIP UP AND DESTROY..................


over a MILLION PLANTS that they had growing in ILLEGAL AND UNLICENSED ROOMS!!!!!!!!!!!!


LIE-berals have told us that organized crime is not interested in legal Weed sales!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


If LIE-berals actually believe this -then they are even more spaced out than I thought!!!!!!!!!!!


In related news - Cdn natives have got into the Weed dispensing biz the same way they got into the cigarette biz!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


BY ILLEGAL MEANS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !


Why bother with stupid stuff like licenses or taxes anyway??????????????????????


After all - natives are free spirits - except where welfare payments and hospital care are concerned!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Ontari-owe natives are doing a nice biz in online Weed sales and as they live on reserves and pay no property taxes..................


and certainly DO NOT PAY the Ontari-owe business occupancy tax that was brought in to compensate for all the businesses that



were taking CASH and avoiding income and sales taxes......................................


we can be sure that native Weed prices will be rather lower than from a legal shop!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Its just too bad about aiding and abetting ORGANIZED CRIME gangs that find the carefree and LAWLESS life on reserves..............


to be very much to their liking!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


So we CAN SAY that LIE-berals got the Weed situation PARTLY RIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Organized crime is into Weed sales in A BIG WAY - so LIE-berals FAILED to oust the criminal element!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And LIE-berals FAILED to create a whole new line of work for civil service union HOGS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


But LIE-berals DID MAKE MORE WORK for natives!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Natives can now sell Weed as well as cigarettes and smuggled GUNS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
taxslave
#75
Any group with the balls to stand up to the government can sell illegal weed. In fact there are a lot of things we could do by just telling the government NO.
 
spilledthebeer
#76
Quote: Originally Posted by taxslave View Post

Any group with the balls to stand up to the government can sell illegal weed. In fact there are a lot of things we could do by just telling the government NO.




Actually THAT IS NOT TRUE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


LIE-beral govt long ago AGREED with certain pressure groups...................


TO YIELD POWER AND CONTROL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


IN EXCHANGE FOR VOTES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



AS Toronto Silly Hall has PROVED............................


they ARE PREPARED TO FIGHT white people who attempt to sell Weed or cigarettes.............................


as if they were NATIVES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Toronto has been RELENTLESS in chasing down illegal Weed shops ....................................


and confiscating their supplies!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Yet the same people who consider it an OUTRAGE that white people who sell Weed without a license...................


CONSIDER IT A LIE-beral VIRTUE to ignore natives selling Weed AND Cigarettes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!


Its not fair that LIE-berals will stamp on one group and igfnore another...........................


BUT IT IS how they work!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!
 
taxslave
#77
Quote: Originally Posted by spilledthebeer View Post

Actually THAT IS NOT TRUE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


LIE-beral govt long ago AGREED with certain pressure groups...................


TO YIELD POWER AND CONTROL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


IN EXCHANGE FOR VOTES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

AS Toronto Silly Hall has PROVED............................
they ARE PREPARED TO FIGHT white people who attempt to sell Weed or cigarettes.............................
as if they were NATIVES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Toronto has been RELENTLESS in chasing down illegal Weed shops ....................................
and confiscating their supplies!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yet the same people who consider it an OUTRAGE that white people who sell Weed without a license...................
CONSIDER IT A LIE-beral VIRTUE to ignore natives selling Weed AND Cigarettes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!
Its not fair that LIE-berals will stamp on one group and igfnore another...........................
BUT IT IS how they work!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!

That is why we have to stand up to our government. Remember the government is supposed to work FOR taxpayers, not against them.
 
spilledthebeer
#78
Quote: Originally Posted by taxslave View Post

That is why we have to stand up to our government. Remember the government is supposed to work FOR taxpayers, not against them.






So YOU ARE PREPARED TO VOTE.............................


for the destruction of the LIE-beral party.................................


and for their idiot cousins the NDPees and Greenies!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Because LIE-berals and their less intelligent cousins are working AGAINST........................


the legitimate desires of ordinary Cdns!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Thus YOU ARE PREPARED TO SUPPORT the likes of ...................................


Doug Ford, Jason Kenney, Andrew Scheer, Pierre Poilievre and other Conservatives..................................


because - even though they are NOT SAINTS...................................


they ARE MUCH MORE FAIR AND HONEST LEADERS....................................


than their LIE-beral opponents!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


GOOD TO KNOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Opposition that involves gunfire or protests is FOR LUNATICS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Politicians understand ONLY what shows up in the ballot box!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Marching in the streets and banging pot lids is for KIDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Blocking roads and making threats is for fools!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Which is why militant natives have NOT gotten what they desire............................


and it is why living on a Cdn native reserve is like living in a Third World Country!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


LIE-berals consider natives on reserves to be a DIM WITTED BUT USEFUL voting block that can be BOUGHT CHEAPLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Blackleaf
#79
The Stranglers - "Golden Brown" (1981)

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=z-GUjA67mdc

A song about heroin.
Last edited by Blackleaf; 6 days ago at 08:23 PM..
 
spilledthebeer
#80
Quote: Originally Posted by Blackleaf View Post

The Stranglers - "Golden Brown" (1981)

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=z-GUjA67mdc

A song about heroin.


Yeah - its not to bad........................


but in truth I prefer the more visceral Steppenwolf tune.............................


"God Damn the Pusher man"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


No beating about the bush with that group!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!