Why Russia Hasnít Invaded Ukraine


MHz
#61
Are you saying Russia is picking up Israeli IDF methods? If you are looking for stupid canned responses this place will give you a few classic examples. Lets see how long it takes you to spot the trolls.

What are some of your 'examples' of pro-Russian posts from here and what other board can you supply that shows the same posts being made? I have lots of time to verify claims made by people, I like to check them out as it shows pretty fast who is a troll and who isn't
Don't know if you noticed but this place is pro-Israel to the point some could qualify as war crimes supporters for the lack of condemnation while piling it on for Israel's fictitious foes. I mean really, openly calling for the killing of all Russians, what kind of pig comes up with a solution like that, besides you know who.

Quote: Originally Posted by taxslave View Post

I read the whole thing. Made MHz look sane by comparison.

Pretty brave statement from somebody who gets stumped at a single verse from the Bible of lacks the ability to put anything down about the topic but always has time for idle chit-chat. Defines what is the rest or your life. Not really something to look forward too even from my low-life standards.
 
Blackleaf
#62
Quote: Originally Posted by EagleSmack View Post

Yes Crimea... part of Ukraine.


The same Crimea which has historically been Russian and which was part of Russia for centuries until 1954 when it was handed to Ukraine when Ukraine was still part of the USSR and therefore it didn't matter because it was still within the USSR, but it did matter when the Ukraine seceded from the USSR in 1991 and therefore took the thousands of ethnic Russians who live in Crimea out of their Mother Land, ethnic Russians who now want to be part of Russia again.

Putin won't - and shouldn't - let ethic Russians be massacred by the Kiev Nazis who overthrew an elected government. He welcomed back a Crimea that is almost entirely made up of ethic Russians. Crimea belongs to Russia.
 
MHz
#63
As everyone knows when looking for peace you got to go and buy a few guns from the folks who brought you the Syrian uprising. Ironically it is to use against the weapons his side just gave up. Can't see this new plan working any better than the old one.

During his visit to Abu Dhabi, UAE on Tuesday, Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko announced that he had signed a weapons deal with the Persian Gulf nation, without providing any more details.Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko announced the signing of a deal on military and technical cooperation with the United Arab Emirates on Tuesday, during his visit to the IDEX-2015 Arms Expo in Abu Dhabi.
The president told reporters that he had signed a "very important memorandum about military and technical cooperation" with his UAE counterparts, without providing any more information on what the agreement will entail. The deal was struck between Ukrainian officials and UAE Crown Prince and Armed Forces Deputy Supreme Commander Sheikh Mohammed bin Zayed al-Nahyan.
Further details on the deal have not been confirmed by Ukrainian or Emirati officials.


Read more: Poroshenko Gets His Guns in UAE: Unlike Europe, Arabs Aren't Afraid of WW3 / Sputnik International
 
petros
#64
MHz....ever heard of the French drop?

Who is selling arms to UAE? Anybody we know?
 
MHz
#65
Besides 'the West', the point still stands, he just lost a ****load of weapons and now that peace talks are in the works he is looking for more arms from the usual suspects using Saudi to buy them because the Ukraine is flat broke and then some.
 
petros
+1
#66
Peace talks? Do you really believe that sh°t? A settlement would be egg on Putin's face.
 
MHz
#67
It's Porky talking peace and shooting 10 minutes later, that has been his style for the whole last year? Why would a continuation surprise me?
 
Curious Cdn
+1 / -1
#68
Of course the E.U. is to blame. That is the standard line. The Russians are masters of obfuscation and their message is being widely distributed via forums such as this one.
 
Cliffy
#69
Quote: Originally Posted by Curious Cdn View Post

Of course the E.U. is to blame. That is the standard line. The Russians are masters of obfuscation and their message is being widely distributed via forums such as this one.

And our media tell nothing but the truth, right. Gi' yur head a shake, eh!
 
Blackleaf
#70
Quote: Originally Posted by Curious Cdn View Post

Of course the E.U. is to blame. That is the standard line. The Russians are masters of obfuscation and their message is being widely distributed via forums such as this one.


So the EU hasn't been expanding its borders in recent years whilst Russia has LOST territory?

In 2003, there were just 15 Member States of the EU. Now there are 28 and the EU's increasing expansion eastwards right onto Russia's doorstep, and its attempts to annex Ukraine, is what has caused this conflict in Ukraine.

The weird thing is, if anyone tries to tell Britain's Left-wing Ruling Establishment politicians - those of the LibLabCon triumvirate - that it is the EU, not Russia, which is the expansionist power in Europe, looking to add ever more territory to its empire, whilst Russia has lost territory since 1991, they'll just look at you as though you've just told them you're a homosexual Martian who is a member of the Venusian branch of the Leyton Orient supporters club, just as happened on BBC's Question Time the other week.

"Oh no!" those politicians - who obviously know better than us ordinary people - told the gormless audience member (who probably supports Ukip, the little rascal). "Russia is the expansionist power in Europe! Look, it has taken Crimea and parts of eastern Ukraine! The EU is a force for good in this world! It, not Nato, as you rascally Ukippers believes, is responsible for bringing peace in Europe! Britain must remain in the EU!"
Last edited by Blackleaf; Feb 25th, 2015 at 07:30 AM..
 
Curious Cdn
+1
#71
Quote: Originally Posted by Cliffy View Post

And our media tell nothing but the truth, right. Gi' yur head a shake, eh!

Our media, warty as they are, are ultimately answerable to others, be the share holders, regulators, parliaments, consumers, to posters like you or me, even. The "official" Russian media are answerable to their political leaders only and it is dangerous to life and limb to question any of it. They are subject to almost no critical scutuny at all in Russia and precious little out here in the supposedly informed West, either. I't ain't perfect here and lies certainly happen but they don't seem to stay hidden forever. The Russians will never know what really happened ... unless they leave Russia. This is by no means a new story and little has really changed, in the end, from Soviet times.!
 
MHz
#72
Quote: Originally Posted by Curious Cdn View Post

The Russians will never know what really happened ... unless they leave Russia. This is by no means a new story and little has really changed, in the end, from Soviet times.!

You get that from 'their media' or 'ours'?
 
BaalsTears
#73
A little nation bordering a very powerful nation will always be dominated by its more powerful neighbor. Is it ok to say that on CC?
 
petros
#74
Quote: Originally Posted by MHz View Post

You get that from 'their media' or 'ours'?

They don't have media. They have state run propaganda.
 
Blackleaf
+1
#75
Quote: Originally Posted by BaalsTears View Post

A little nation bordering a very powerful nation will always be dominated by its more powerful neighbor.


Canada and Republic of Ireland are also in that position. They're also two countries forever living in the shadow of a much bigger and much more powerful neighbour.
 
petros
#76
Quote: Originally Posted by Blackleaf View Post

Canada and Republic of Ireland are also in that position. They're also two countries forever living in the shadow of a much bigger and much more powerful neighbour.

Kinda like the poor bastards on the turd in the Atlantic punchbowl that live across the channel from Germany.
 
gore0bsessed
#77


'murican military bases. but Russia is the threat. LMAO.
 
petros
#78
Yuuuuup. Want a ruble to buy a pixie stick?
 
Colpy
#79
Yeah, because the rebels bought the dozens of first line Russian tanks at the local sporting goods store.
 
MHz
#80
By all reports Kiev brings arms to the front lines and then just leaves them there and they go back to Kiev.
 
petros
#81
Full on war is just days away. It's almost March.

Quote: Originally Posted by MHz View Post

By all reports Kiev brings arms to the front lines and then just leaves them there and they go back to Kiev.

http://forums.canadiancontent.net/in...ropaganda.html

For you.
 
gore0bsessed
#82
Quote: Originally Posted by Colpy View Post

Yeah, because the rebels bought the dozens of first line Russian tanks at the local sporting goods store.

Poroshenko's a Russian threat, dumb yankee morons are lucky Russia didn't have more severe reaction to that threat.
 
petros
#83
Do you have a passport? I have 55,000 unused air miles.
 
BaalsTears
#84
I think Putin would like to keep Ukraine as a bleeding wound subsidized at Western expense.
 
coldstream
#85
Nato's relentless push to isolate and encircle Russia made this all but inevitable once Western Ukraine signalled that it too would join Nato and EU.

It seems Russia is intent on seeing an independent state formed east of the Dneiper, which would be in the Russian sphere. In fact it might be looking to create dissension amongst the large Russian populations in the Balkans to establish other buffer states against Western encroachment.

In fact Russia, even in the time of the Soviet Union has never really been interested in Empire. It's foreign policy has always been predicated on establishing a ring of States around the Russian heartland, within its orbit, and supporting its economic interests.

It was very near sighted of the West to declare itself the 'winner' of the Cold War, when Communism collapsed, and not see that the deep cultural differences and suspicions between the oriental sensibilities of Russia and those of occidental Western Europe remained. They went headlong into expansionism eastward, exasperating Russia's paranoia of Western intrusion, and a push back was inevitable.

Russia won't invade the Ukraine, but it will enable the separatist forces in the east. Since ethnic Russians form the majority there, that is likely all they'll need to prevail within their limited objectives.
Last edited by coldstream; Feb 27th, 2015 at 02:08 PM..
 
Colpy
+1
#86
Quote: Originally Posted by gore0bsessed View Post

Poroshenko's a Russian threat, dumb yankee morons are lucky Russia didn't have more severe reaction to that threat.

What we would so if we had any balls is inform Putin that Ukraine is about to become part of NATO, and start dropping in NATO troops.

The way to deal with psychotics like Putin is show them the muzzle of a cocked pistol.
 
MHz
#87
Left not unsaid is that there is only one gun in play and we are the ones in a rant with a cocked gun, maybe we are the rabid one?
 
gore0bsessed
#88
Quote: Originally Posted by Colpy View Post

What we would so if we had any balls is inform Putin that Ukraine is about to become part of NATO, and start dropping in NATO troops.

The way to deal with psychotics like Putin is show them the muzzle of a cocked pistol.

No, if you had your way we'd all be doomed under a nuclear winter.
 
petros
#89
Quote: Originally Posted by gore0bsessed View Post

No, if you had your way we'd all be doomed under a nuclear winter.

Nope just Putin's brains staining the snows of the Kremlin freeing the Russian people from Putin's authoritarian Bolshevik grasp.
 
BaalsTears
+1
#90
The EU precipitated the crisis. The best solution is partition.
 

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