China’s hypersonic strike vehicle ‘in 3d test flight’


B00Mer
#1
China’s hypersonic strike vehicle ‘in 3d test flight’



China has reportedly conducted a third flight test for its new ultra-high speed strike vehicle – capable of travelling at up to eight times the speed of sound, in what experts suspect is part of the development of its strategic nuclear program.

The test flight, monitored by US intelligence services this week, was the third in a series of tests of the Wu-14 hypersonic glide vehicle—a high-accuracy, high speed projectile, reports the Washington Free Beacon. The first two were conducted earlier this year.

A Pentagon representative confirmed the test to the WFB, but declined to provide further comment.

“We are aware of reports regarding this test and we routinely monitor foreign defense activities,” Marine Corps Lt. Col. Jeff Pool said. “However, we don’t comment on our intelligence or assessments of foreign weapon systems.”

Lora Saalman, a nuclear policy expert at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, said China’s third test of the Wu-14 in a year suggests an ongoing trend of militarization.

“Not only does this third test of the WU-14 in one year indicate that this is a priority program for China, it also suggests that U.S. historical concerns over a Chinese quantitative ‘sprint to parity’ in nuclear weapons are misdirected,” she was quoted as saying in the Beacon.

READ MORE: China confirms new hypersonic glide vehicle test-flight

Though some form of hyper-sonic weapons has existed for decades, the new missiles being developed by the US, China and others belong to a class of their own because of the “boost-glide” technology which enables them to travel very quickly and at a flat angle. Boost-glide weapons follow a hard-to-trace trajectory which makes them difficult to target using current missile-defense systems.

The weapons "are launched by big rockets just like a ballistic missile is," explained Carnegie nuclear expert James Acton. "But then rather than arcing higher than the atmosphere, they are put on a trajectory to re-enter the atmosphere as quickly as possible. Then they just glide to the target," he was featured as saying in Business Insider this fall.

Experts say hypersonic capabilities are indicative of a large scale military build-up. Mark Schneider, a former Pentagon strategic forces specialist, was quoted as saying in the Washington Free Beacon that China’s latest hypersonic vehicle test poses “a serious threat.”

The US and China have been engaged in what some have dubbed a hypersonic arms race. This summer, the US tested its own hypersonic missile after China ran its second test of the Wu-14. Though both countries had successfully tested hypersonic weapons in the past, both August tests failed.

Russia, not one to stay out of the game for long, has also announced plans to build its first hypersonic missile before 2020. India, too, is involved in the development of the ultra-high speed arms.

source: ?China?s hypersonic strike vehicle ?in 3d test flight? ? RT News

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I guess America's leading edge died with Obama
 
bluebyrd35
#2
Quote: Originally Posted by B00Mer View Post

China’s hypersonic strike vehicle ‘in 3d test flight’



China has reportedly conducted a third flight test for its new ultra-high speed strike vehicle – capable of travelling at up to eight times the speed of sound, in what experts suspect is part of the development of its strategic nuclear program.

The test flight, monitored by US intelligence services this week, was the third in a series of tests of the Wu-14 hypersonic glide vehicle—a high-accuracy, high speed projectile, reports the Washington Free Beacon. The first two were conducted earlier this year.

A Pentagon representative confirmed the test to the WFB, but declined to provide further comment.

“We are aware of reports regarding this test and we routinely monitor foreign defense activities,” Marine Corps Lt. Col. Jeff Pool said. “However, we don’t comment on our intelligence or assessments of foreign weapon systems.”

Lora Saalman, a nuclear policy expert at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, said China’s third test of the Wu-14 in a year suggests an ongoing trend of militarization.

“Not only does this third test of the WU-14 in one year indicate that this is a priority program for China, it also suggests that U.S. historical concerns over a Chinese quantitative ‘sprint to parity’ in nuclear weapons are misdirected,” she was quoted as saying in the Beacon.

READ MORE: China confirms new hypersonic glide vehicle test-flight

Though some form of hyper-sonic weapons has existed for decades, the new missiles being developed by the US, China and others belong to a class of their own because of the “boost-glide” technology which enables them to travel very quickly and at a flat angle. Boost-glide weapons follow a hard-to-trace trajectory which makes them difficult to target using current missile-defense systems.

The weapons "are launched by big rockets just like a ballistic missile is," explained Carnegie nuclear expert James Acton. "But then rather than arcing higher than the atmosphere, they are put on a trajectory to re-enter the atmosphere as quickly as possible. Then they just glide to the target," he was featured as saying in Business Insider this fall.

Experts say hypersonic capabilities are indicative of a large scale military build-up. Mark Schneider, a former Pentagon strategic forces specialist, was quoted as saying in the Washington Free Beacon that China’s latest hypersonic vehicle test poses “a serious threat.”

The US and China have been engaged in what some have dubbed a hypersonic arms race. This summer, the US tested its own hypersonic missile after China ran its second test of the Wu-14. Though both countries had successfully tested hypersonic weapons in the past, both August tests failed.

Russia, not one to stay out of the game for long, has also announced plans to build its first hypersonic missile before 2020. India, too, is involved in the development of the ultra-high speed arms.

source: ?China?s hypersonic strike vehicle ?in 3d test flight? ? RT News

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I guess America's leading edge died with Obama

I am sure all those gun owners could shoot the thing down, after aren't they kept for protection of home and hearth.



Never mind, all those owners of hand guns and rifles will be able to protect home and hearth.....Oh but wait, wouldn't a nuclear war sort of wipe out hearth and homes all over the globe??


So I guess the answer will be for the world's nations to get bigger and better nuclear weapons......perhaps they will perfect the bomb that simply destroys humanity. The thinking, as I remember was sterilize a country without destroying the land or properties. All ready for the conquerors to move into. LOL. my gawd the human never need wait on aliens or astroids to destroy us, we will do it all on our own long before that. .
Last edited by bluebyrd35; Dec 13th, 2014 at 02:52 PM..Reason: Perfection
 
Ron in Regina
#3
Quote: Originally Posted by B00Mer View Post

I guess America's leading edge died with Obama

Well, there's always Aurora. It predates Obama, and they deny its existence,
but they did the same with the stealth bombers before Desert Storm.
 
Tonington
#4
Quote: Originally Posted by B00Mer View Post

I guess America's leading edge died with Obama

How do you figure that? Did you read your own article? America has it's own development program.
 
petros
#5
A delivery drone.
 
BaalsTears
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#6  Top Rated Post
Obama and his supporters are the real threat to America, not China. There is no greater challenge than the internal enemy.
 
petros
#7
Was that from a supersonic fortune cookie that fell from space?
 
B00Mer
#8
Quote: Originally Posted by bluebyrd35 View Post

Never mind, all those owners of hand guns and rifles will be able to protect home and hearth.....Oh but wait, wouldn't a nuclear war sort of wipe out hearth and homes all over the globe??

Some people will survive.. and if they don't have a gun to protect themselves.. oh boy.

What, you don't watch Doomsday Preppers??

http://www.youtube.com/show/doomsdaypreppers
 
bluebyrd35
#9
Quote: Originally Posted by BaalsTears View Post

Obama and his supporters are the real threat to America, not China. There is no greater challenge than the internal enemy.

So, the worst enemies are within our borders?? Now I wonder why that is?? Could it be because there are those who put profits above sense? The propaganda goes that if we are armed within our own homes, nothing bad can happen. Geez whoever thought children would end up shooting themselves or each other, or spouses in a fit of anger shoot each other. The same stupid thinking is being done but on a global scale. Hope everyone has their bomb shelters in order. But it wouldn't matter anyway, because while some humans survive, the land will not.


The problem with this outlook, is that there will always be someone better armed than we are. React stupidly and wipeout!! Now I will probably enjoy what is left of my life but not sure about children and grandchildren. Because the young generation has never experienced a world war, there is no reason whatsoever to work towards making sure they do. Talk about sadistic.


There are still groups of children sent from Russia to Canada for the summer because they live around the area of where Cherynobyl occurred. Where do we send people after a nuclear war??

Quote: Originally Posted by B00Mer View Post

Some people will survive.. and if they don't have a gun to protect themselves.. oh boy.

What, you don't watch Doomsday Preppers??

Doomsday Preppers - YouTube

You kid.....I hope!! If a nuclear war occurs, and enough nations let loose their nuclear weapons, very likely a firestorm will happen. That leaves no survivors, simply a ruined earth. No place on earth will be radiation free. We are talking destruction on a scale never before seen. Just take a look at what happened when the first atomic bomb dropped. The nuclear weapons we have now make that look like a minor occurrence. There will be no survivors, or if there are, a few days or weeks will take care of that. Lordy, I would prefer to have the earth hit by an asteroid. It may change the earth's orbit somewhat and wipe out some species totally but there would not be poisoning of the land as a nuclear bomb would.
 
Goober
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Quote: Originally Posted by BaalsTears View Post

Obama and his supporters are the real threat to America, not China. There is no greater challenge than the internal enemy.

China is in the midst of a massive military expansion and are preparing for a war of area denial. Make the costs to high for the US.
And the EU, well they are ffn useless.
 
bluebyrd35
#11
Quote: Originally Posted by Goober View Post

China is in the midst of a massive military expansion and are preparing for a war of area denial. Make the costs to high for the US.
And the EU, well they are ffn useless.

Soo, you are assuming all the Chinese are in agreement with their government's aim?? Just as everyone in the US and Canada are line with all their governments want to do!! The Chinese want a democratic government and have been trying for decades to get there. Why not give them the chance to get independence from totalitarianism before getting into a world wide one-upmanship battle with nuclear weapons.
 
Goober
+1
#12
Quote: Originally Posted by bluebyrd35 View Post

Soo, you are assuming all the Chinese are in agreement with their government's aim?? Just as everyone in the US and Canada are line with all their governments want to do!! The Chinese want a democratic government and have been trying for decades to get there. Why not give them the chance to get independence from totalitarianism before getting into a world wide one-upmanship battle with nuclear weapons.

Google is your friend. Who runs the place.
Do some research, see what area denial means.
And they along with the US are preparing for a confrontation. Excepting the Chines are pushing faster.
 
petros
#13
Quote: Originally Posted by B00Mer View Post

Some people will survive.. and if they don't have a gun to protect themselves.. oh boy.

What, you don't watch Doomsday Preppers??

http://www.youtube.com/show/doomsdaypreppers

Peppers
 
BaalsTears
+1
#14
Quote: Originally Posted by petros View Post

Was that from a supersonic fortune cookie that fell from space?

No. I was paraphrasing the famous Roman orator Marcus Tullio Cicero.

Quote: Originally Posted by bluebyrd35 View Post

So, the worst enemies are within our borders?? Now I wonder why that is?? Could it be because there are those who put profits above sense? The propaganda goes that if we are armed within our own homes, nothing bad can happen. Geez whoever thought children would end up shooting themselves or each other, or spouses in a fit of anger shoot each other. The same stupid thinking is being done but on a global scale. Hope everyone has their bomb shelters in order. But it wouldn't matter anyway, because while some humans survive, the land will not.


The problem with this outlook, is that there will always be someone better armed than we are. React stupidly and wipeout!! Now I will probably enjoy what is left of my life but not sure about children and grandchildren. Because the young generation has never experienced a world war, there is no reason whatsoever to work towards making sure they do. Talk about sadistic.


There are still groups of children sent from Russia to Canada for the summer because they live around the area of where Cherynobyl occurred. Where do we send people after a nuclear war??


You kid.....I hope!! If a nuclear war occurs, and enough nations let loose their nuclear weapons, very likely a firestorm will happen. That leaves no survivors, simply a ruined earth. No place on earth will be radiation free. We are talking destruction on a scale never before seen. Just take a look at what happened when the first atomic bomb dropped. The nuclear weapons we have now make that look like a minor occurrence. There will be no survivors, or if there are, a few days or weeks will take care of that. Lordy, I would prefer to have the earth hit by an asteroid. It may change the earth's orbit somewhat and wipe out some species totally but there would not be poisoning of the land as a nuclear bomb would.

I love the stream of consciousness style of composition.

Quote: Originally Posted by Goober View Post

China is in the midst of a massive military expansion and are preparing for a war of area denial. Make the costs to high for the US.
And the EU, well they are ffn useless.

Absolutely true, but irrelevant for our purposes. The Chinese have no intention of transforming my ideas out of existence. But the American left is relentlessly dedicated to creating a new America in which people who think like I do are totally marginalized and disempowered. From my perspective the Chinese are a remote threat while American leftists are the barbarians at the gate who demand immediate attention.

Quote: Originally Posted by bluebyrd35 View Post

Soo, you are assuming all the Chinese are in agreement with their government's aim?? Just as everyone in the US and Canada are line with all their governments want to do!! The Chinese want a democratic government and have been trying for decades to get there. Why not give them the chance to get independence from totalitarianism before getting into a world wide one-upmanship battle with nuclear weapons.

Nei wah mut ye?

Do you know any Chinese Communists?

Quote: Originally Posted by petros View Post

Peppers

Paupers.
 
MHz
#15
Slap a Fed-Ex sticker on it and what would it cost to mail a Hallmark card? I'm thinking delivery vehicle to the moon for letting of the new series of miner rovers, Drop a new payload and pick up the 'treasures that have been sling-shotted into that orbit. Cash in time for shareholders and the machines were paid for by scared citizens who though they were protecting themselves by another fake war. If the US bilked their citizens out of $50T over 50 years then China should clear $5,000T when they do the same for 50 years. I can see what they wouldn't expose the US and I can see why the US can't expose what is going to happen because that would mean they would have to confess to do the same for the last 50 years.

How close to lunar surface could it get and if you rotated the craft so the blunt end was first then it acts like a scoop and any speed lost lis probably goo as that help with a slower re-entry as the weight is the same as liftoff but with fuel tanks empty and the cargo bay has dropped some things off and picked up other things.

My moon conspiracy question, if all the rocks on the surface are there via impacts why is there no fine dust on any of them and why are there no sign of dust drifting around them as there seems to be some dust that covers the moon that is powder form so it should have been the last to settle.
Last edited by MHz; Dec 13th, 2014 at 09:31 PM..
 
BaalsTears
#16
There is a very easy way of disempowering Chinese expansionism. But it requires being prepared to sow dragon's teeth.
 
MHz
#17
Dragon's teeth? I though that was a sign of eating tainted food, the squinting in pain is what gave a person with the big black pupils made them appear slanted, reptile like. *** on fire syndrome.
 
BaalsTears
+1
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Quote: Originally Posted by MHz View Post

Dragon's teeth? I though that was a sign of eating tainted food, the squinting in pain is what gave a person with the big black pupils made them appear slanted, reptile like. *** on fire syndrome.

"In Greek myth, dragon's teeth feature prominently in the legends of the Phoenician prince Cadmus and in Jason's quest for the Golden Fleece. In each case, the dragons are real and breathe fire. Their teeth, once planted, would grow into fully armed warriors.

Cadmus, the bringer of literacy and civilization, killed the sacred dragon that guarded the spring of Ares. The goddess Athena told him to sow the teeth, from which sprang a group of ferocious warriors called the spartoi. He threw a precious jewel into the midst of the warriors, who turned on each other in an attempt to seize the stone for themselves. The five survivors joined with Cadmus to found the city of Thebes.

The classical legends of Cadmus and Jason have given rise to the phrase "to sow dragon's teeth." This is used as a metaphor to refer to doing something that has the effect of fomenting disputes."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dragon's_teeth_(mythology)

In the movie Jason And The Argonauts from the 1950's the special effects master Ray Harryhausen brought the myth to life.
Last edited by BaalsTears; Dec 13th, 2014 at 10:35 PM..
 
petros
+1
#19
Jason is now a Riders fan.
 
B00Mer
#20
www.youtube.com/watch?v=2vYZ-FhldDM

Of course there will be survivors on southern regions not hit by attacks. Also,people you prepare in advance for such an event.

Atlas Survival Shelters-Underground Shelters-Bomb Shelters
 
bluebyrd35
#21
Quote: Originally Posted by Goober View Post

Google is your friend. Who runs the place.
Do some research, see what area denial means.
And they along with the US are preparing for a confrontation. Excepting the Chines are pushing faster.

LOL Sometimes Google is a friend. Sometimes it is wrong and but it's better than buying an encyclopedia.


Baals Tears ..... Sure I'm always for peace, with or without the golden harp played by a Nobel Price winner ....Eh what!!


Yes, I personally know a few of Chinese origin in my area; but I also know of the Chinese attempts towards Democracy .....I remember Tianananmen Square (sp) and those who died because they wanted Democracy. The demonstrations were not limited to the square but happened all over china in many towns and cities. It is not known the numbers killed but estimations run into the thousands. So, yes I feel China will eventually make it, hopefully without aggressive help from outside.


Both the US and Canada, fought for Democracy but in very different ways. One by war, the other by negotiation. Every religious or spiritual belief states that "violence begets violence". Or perhaps some prefer.......... all actions produce an equal and opposite reaction.
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Blackleaf
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Quote: Originally Posted by Ron in Regina View Post

Well, there's always Aurora. It predates Obama, and they deny its existence,
but they did the same with the stealth bombers before Desert Storm.


There are rumours that it was Aurora which caused those mystery bangs to be heard in New York, the British Isles and the Low Countries the other week, which in Britain woke people up in the middle of the night and windows to rattle. But, for all we know, they could have been caused by China's Wu-14.

One of those Aurora aircraft supposedly crashed at RAF Boscombe Down in Wiltshire in 1994 and there have been several reported sightings of the craft in Britain over the years. RAF Machrihanish in Kintyre, Argyll is said to be a base for Aurora aircraft, as well as several other RAF bases (maybe the RAF secretly has a fleet of these craft).

But despite that, there is no substantial evidence that it was ever built or flown. And even if Aurora does exist it is rumoured to fly at only between Mach 5 and Mach 7, whereas China's Wu-14 is capable of travelling at Mach 8 (2,722 mph).
 
petros
#23
It was fracking in Yorkshire Pudding on the Tripe. Samessex UK
 
lone wolf
#24
So what's the difference between a 3D test flight and a real one?
 
#juan
+1
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Quote: Originally Posted by Blackleaf View Post

There are rumours that it was Aurora which caused those mystery bangs to be heard in New York, the British Isles and the Low Countries the other week, which in Britain woke people up in the middle of the night and windows to rattle. But, for all we know, they could have been caused by China's Wu-14.

One of those Aurora aircraft supposedly crashed at RAF Boscombe Down in Wiltshire in 1994 and there have been several reported sightings of the craft in Britain over the years. RAF Machrihanish in Kintyre, Argyll is said to be a base for Aurora aircraft, as well as several other RAF bases (maybe the RAF secretly has a fleet of these craft).

But despite that, there is no substantial evidence that it was ever built or flown. And even if Aurora does exist it is rumoured to fly at only between Mach 5 and Mach 7, whereas China's Wu-14 is capable of travelling at Mach 8 (2,722 mph).

What is the purpose of such an airplane? It's surface is going to be titanium steel or it will burn up from air friction. I have no idea what sort of weapons it might carry. Sounds like it will be a bomber.....maybe an interceptor.
 
BaalsTears
+1
#26
Quote: Originally Posted by petros View Post

Jason is now a Raiders fan.

Fixed it for you.

Quote: Originally Posted by bluebyrd35 View Post

...Baals Tears ..... Sure I'm always for peace, with or without the golden harp played by a Nobel Price winner ....Eh what!!

"Only the dead have seen the end of war." I think it was Vince Lombardi or Mike Ditka who said that.


Quote:

Yes, I personally know a few of Chinese origin in my area; but I also know of the Chinese attempts towards Democracy .....I remember Tianananmen Square (sp) and those who died because they wanted Democracy. The demonstrations were not limited to the square but happened all over china in many towns and cities. It is not known the numbers killed but estimations run into the thousands. So, yes I feel China will eventually make it, hopefully without aggressive help from outside.

Not all peoples are meant to experience individual liberty. The concept is antithetical to Confucian thought. The idea of individual liberty has arisen several times throughout history...but always within the context of the same civilization. The West. Individual liberty is only meant for people living in flowering societies within Western Civilization. The cultural characteristics of other civilizations are sterile ground in which the idea of individual freedom can't germinate.


Quote:

Both the US and Canada, fought for Democracy but in very different ways. One by war, the other by negotiation. Every religious or spiritual belief states that "violence begets violence". Or perhaps some prefer.......... all actions produce an equal and opposite reaction.
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Canada isn't a Democracy. It's an appendage of a dying empire. America was a Republic at one time. Unfortunately, democratic and republican forms of political organization are ephemeral. They always commit suicide.

Quote: Originally Posted by Blackleaf View Post

There are rumours that it was Aurora which caused those mystery bangs to be heard in New York, the British Isles and the Low Countries the other week, which in Britain woke people up in the middle of the night and windows to rattle. But, for all we know, they could have been caused by China's Wu-14.

One of those Aurora aircraft supposedly crashed at RAF Boscombe Down in Wiltshire in 1994 and there have been several reported sightings of the craft in Britain over the years. RAF Machrihanish in Kintyre, Argyll is said to be a base for Aurora aircraft, as well as several other RAF bases (maybe the RAF secretly has a fleet of these craft).

But despite that, there is no substantial evidence that it was ever built or flown. And even if Aurora does exist it is rumoured to fly at only between Mach 5 and Mach 7, whereas China's Wu-14 is capable of travelling at Mach 8 (2,722 mph).

I hear Britain is reducing its order of F-35Bs for its new aircraft carriers. That's a chicken **** thing to do.