Too gay to rape: Man found not guilty of sex assault


spaminator
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Too gay to rape: Man found not guilty of sex assault
By Dean Pritchard ,Winnipeg Sun First posted: Thursday, January 16, 2014 07:03 PM EST
A Winnipeg man who testified he is "flamboyantly" gay and finds the idea of sex with a woman "revolting" has been found not guilty of sexually assaulting his female roommate.
Justice Herbert Rempel said while he wasn't satisfied the accused was entirely truthful in his testimony and may have exaggerated his "flamboyance" on the witness stand, there was no doubt in his mind the man is gay.
"He made a point of testifying he was a flamboyantly gay man or effeminate and this was obvious in his opinion to any neutral observer," Rempel said. "He went on to state the thought of having sexual relations with a female revolted him."
At a trial last fall, the alleged victim testified she awoke in bed after a long night of partying to find the accused having sex with her. She said he ran to another room where he jumped in bed with his boyfriend and pretended to be asleep.
The woman later underwent a medical examination which confirmed the presence of semen but it did not match the DNA of the accused.
The accused testified he told the woman and other partygoers his new boyfriend was his cousin, so as not to anger relatives of his allegedly abusive ex-boyfriend.
The woman claimed the accused told her and other partygoers that night he was bisexual, a claim the accused denied.
"It strikes me as passing strange that he would make this admission in the presence of his new boyfriend and several family members of his estranged lover," Rempel said.
Rempel said the woman was shaky in her testimony and evasive when questioned about the identity of a "mystery man" seen in her bedroom.

dean.pritchard@sunmedia.ca
Twitter: @deanatwpgsun
Too gay to rape: Man found not guilty of sex assault | Canada | News | Toronto Sun

can dna analysis determine sexual orientation?
Last edited by spaminator; Jan 17th, 2014 at 04:14 AM..
 
Walter
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Homosexuals are never in the wrong.
 
petros
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You should know.
 
Walter
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Quote: Originally Posted by petros View Post

You should know.

Hey, thayler. In town with the navy?
 
petros
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Top or bottom?
 
SLM
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Quote: Originally Posted by petros View Post

Top or bottom?

I sense a true missionary man.
 
petros
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Quote: Originally Posted by SLM View Post

I sense a true missionary man.

Who loves fries and gravy.
 
Blackleaf
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So it seems that in Canada you can get away with raping a member of the opposite sex if you just lie to the jury by telling them that you are gay.
 
karrie
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a) sounds like he was excused on the DNA evidence more than anything. It's kind of hard to pin a rape on someone when it's not their semen.

b) why would any court anywhere think sexual orientation is a factor in rape? For one thing, it is not concrete, and for another, it's completely possible to lie about it.

All told it sounds like a lot of weird 'he said she said', with a DNA test disproving her claim, and I don't think the judge could have come to any other decision really.
 
gerryh
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Quote: Originally Posted by Walter View Post

Homosexuals are never in the wrong.

Quote: Originally Posted by Walter View Post

Hey, thayler. In town with the navy?

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So it seems that in Canada you can get away with raping a member of the opposite sex if you just lie to the jury by telling them that you are gay.


expected response from 2 of our resident homophobes.
 
lone wolf
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Courts rely on physical evidence. The evidence raised doubts. Maybe she shouldn't have jumped into the sack with the "boyfriend". Drama knows no gender...
 
Blackleaf
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Quote: Originally Posted by gerryh View Post

expected response from 2 of our resident homophobes.

Expected response from one of our resident homophiles who thinks gays should get let off for rape. Crimimal-supporting liberals like you just don't live in the real world.
 
gerryh
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Quote: Originally Posted by Blackleaf View Post

Expected response from one of our resident homophiles who thinks gays should get let off for rape. Crimimal-supporting liberals like you just don't live in the real world.


he wasn't "let off", there was no physical evidence against him. The DNA was not his.

back at ya walter.
 
L Gilbert
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Quote: Originally Posted by spaminator View Post

Too gay to rape: Man found not guilty of sex assault
By Dean Pritchard

can dna analysis determine sexual orientation?

Latest science says that sexual orienting is perigenetic; not quite genetic in the usual sense, so no, it would not be detected by DNA analysis.
Blacklaff would be a prime candidate as a juror member in a kangaroo court. Habitually ignores science fact, leans far too heavily on personal opinion, etc. to be of any use where level-headedness and objectivity are required.
 
Christianna
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The woman later underwent a medical examination which confirmed the presence of semen but it did not match the DNA of the accused.

Why was he accused of rape anyway.
 
L Gilbert
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Why was he accused of rape anyway.

Mistaken identity, it seemed like to me. Possibly a flat out BS charge.
 
IdRatherBeSkiing
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Not sure how the judge even needed to consider the accused gayness. DNA of semen did not match the accused. Case dismissed.
 
Goober
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Quote: Originally Posted by Blackleaf View Post

Expected response from one of our resident homophiles who thinks gays should get let off for rape. Crimimal-supporting liberals like you just don't live in the real world.

Did the evidence show he did, nope.
But evidence would interfere with your hateful post.

Oh yes. BBC had an announcement. Local village is missing someone.
 
JLM
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Quote: Originally Posted by spaminator View Post

Too gay to rape: Man found not guilty of sex assault
By Dean Pritchard ,Winnipeg Sun First posted: Thursday, January 16, 2014 07:03 PM EST
A Winnipeg man who testified he is "flamboyantly" gay and finds the idea of sex with a woman "revolting" has been found not guilty of sexually assaulting his female roommate.
Justice Herbert Rempel said while he wasn't satisfied the accused was entirely truthful in his testimony and may have exaggerated his "flamboyance" on the witness stand, there was no doubt in his mind the man is gay.
"He made a point of testifying he was a flamboyantly gay man or effeminate and this was obvious in his opinion to any neutral observer," Rempel said. "He went on to state the thought of having sexual relations with a female revolted him."
At a trial last fall, the alleged victim testified she awoke in bed after a long night of partying to find the accused having sex with her. She said he ran to another room where he jumped in bed with his boyfriend and pretended to be asleep.
The woman later underwent a medical examination which confirmed the presence of semen but it did not match the DNA of the accused.
The accused testified he told the woman and other partygoers his new boyfriend was his cousin, so as not to anger relatives of his allegedly abusive ex-boyfriend.
The woman claimed the accused told her and other partygoers that night he was bisexual, a claim the accused denied.
"It strikes me as passing strange that he would make this admission in the presence of his new boyfriend and several family members of his estranged lover," Rempel said.
Rempel said the woman was shaky in her testimony and evasive when questioned about the identity of a "mystery man" seen in her bedroom.

dean.pritchard@sunmedia.ca
Twitter: @deanatwpgsun
Too gay to rape: Man found not guilty of sex assault | Canada | News | Toronto Sun

can dna analysis determine sexual orientation?


I'm a little confused- years ago we were told rape has NOTHING to do with sex but much more to do with control and hatred! Did that "balloon" pop?
 
Goober
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Quote: Originally Posted by JLM View Post

I'm a little confused- years ago we were told rape has NOTHING to do with sex but much more to do with control and hatred! Did that "balloon" pop?

He only posted the article.
 
JLM
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He only posted the article.


That is correct but I'm still baffled. -
 
SLM
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Quote: Originally Posted by JLM View Post

I'm a little confused- years ago we were told rape has NOTHING to do with sex but much more to do with control and hatred! Did that "balloon" pop?

It is about control and violence, that's correct. And given that the DNA evidence seemed to exonerate him (I say seemed as I've not read the article but seen it mentioned in several posts.), I'd say it's a case of the (false) accuser trying to control the (wrongly) accused.
 
JLM
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Quote: Originally Posted by SLM View Post

It is about control and violence, that's correct. And given that the DNA evidence seemed to exonerate him (I say seemed as I've not read the article but seen it mentioned in several posts.), I'd say it's a case of the (false) accuser trying to control the (wrongly) accused.


So I guess all this stuff about him being flamboyantly gay was just a red herring that had NOTHING to do with the actual case. You got to wonder where they find some of these judges! -
 
SLM
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Quote: Originally Posted by JLM View Post

So I guess all this stuff about him being flamboyantly gay was just a red herring that had NOTHING to do with the actual case. You got to wonder where they find some of these judges! -

Ok, so I just read the article. No the DNA did not match. The flamboyantly gay piece was what he apparently said on the witness stand when he testified in his own defense, in other words he was saying on top of or or in conjunction with the evidence that he was not the perpetrator, he's gay and therefore has no interest in women anyway.

And it sounds to me that she didn't get a very look at the guy anyway, her testimony was "shakey".