Impeach Trump!!


Curious Cdn
+2
#811
Quote: Originally Posted by taxslave View Post

Funny, that is exactly what Pappa trudOWE, cretin and Martin did to the SCoC. Then jr. trudOWE made Canada the laughing stock of the civilized world.

Sorry to bring reality into this but "most of the civilized world" knows diddly-squat about the internal affairs of Canada nor cares about them. That "laughing stock" TrudOWE is merely another celeb on the margins of most people's consciousness and is of no consequence anywhere else.
 
Walter
+1
#812
Quote: Originally Posted by Curious Cdn View Post

Sorry to bring reality into this but "most of the civilized world" knows diddly-squat about the internal affairs of Canada nor cares about them. That "laughing stock" TrudOWE is merely another celeb on the margins of most people's consciousness and is of no consequence anywhere else.

Thanks for a coherent post.
 
MHz
#813
The 2 of you gave greatly contributed to the fact Canada is seen as a US lackey and nothing more.

Quote: Originally Posted by JLM View Post

Definitely worth watching!

I love that channel. Here is their sister channel.
https://www.youtube.com/user/ClickHole
 
taxslave
+1
#814
Quote: Originally Posted by Bar Sinister View Post

Didn't vote for him last time. Won't vote for him next time. Don't try to pass your irrational Trump loving onto me.

I only like trump because he drives leftwards nuts
 
Walter
+2
#815
Quote: Originally Posted by taxslave View Post

I only like trump because he drives leftwards nuts

I like him cuz he is MAGA and when the US does well so does Canada.
 
spilledthebeer
-1
#816
Quote: Originally Posted by Walter View Post

I like him cuz he is MAGA and when the US does well so does Canada.


he said and she then said....................NUTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!


Here is a REAL TOPIC:::::


Here is an article illustrating the delusional thinking of most LIE-berals regarding environmental matters. With some comments of my own in brackets):

We need an energy revolution. End financial subsidies for all forms of power generation and invest them in the research and development of new ones.

By Greg Vezina, Special to the Sun.

First posted: Saturday, March 19, 2016 07:32 PM EDT | Updated: Saturday, March 19, 2016 07:40 PM EDT

Both in Canada and globally, we desperately need new ways of thinking about how to meet our future energy needs, using both fossil fuels and green energy.

The problem is, we’re nowhere near doing it.

U.S. billionaire Bill Gates knows the enormity of the challenge.

He advises applying “math skills” to developing technologies to revolutionize the way our energy is made and used.

Gates says we need “a miracle” that can only be found in the research and development of new energy technologies.

He’s committed $2 billion over five years to help.

(With all due respect to Gates- just because he knows something about computers does not mean he knows much about govt or economics coupled with tax law! For one thing- Gates is ignoring all the sacred cows that would be gored if all subsidies were really ended! ALL of our civil service union Hogs have hundreds of billions of dollars invested in all manner of energy companies- and in various companies supplying the energy industry! If those company profits are compromised by a major shift in govt tax policy then there will be HUGE DEMAND put on govt to further subsidize the Hog Gravy Train! And the cost of supplying Hog gravy is already breaking our economy!)

But that compares to $2 billion spent globally every day on capital equipment to locate and produce oil and gas, and we consume 35 billion barrels of oil alone every year.

(Yes- and in 2008 when General Motors and Ford - among other companies were facing bankruptcy- govt decided that since one in seven jobs in Ontari-owe are dependent on auto making and repairing- that they MUST SAVE GM and Ford to protect jobs! The ugly reality is that LIE-beral govt has backed itself into a corner with the Hog gravy train and massive gvot debts blocking any road to change!)

Oil, natural gas and coal which, when burned, produce traditional pollution and greenhouse gas emissions linked to climate change, supply 90% of global energy demand, while 73% of electricity power generation comes from fossil fuels.

While natural gas burns at half the carbon intensity of coal, about 80% of natural gas is methane or CH4.

That traps 25 times more heat than carbon dioxide over a 100-year period and 34 times more over a 20-year period, contributing 28% of the warming carbon dioxide does.

(And yet Wynne-bag LIE-berals SERIOUSLY CONSIDERED FORCING US to sell off all our natural gas fueled furnaces and other such appliances and forcing us to buy all electric units- this in spite of the reality that a natural gas fueled electric generator is much LESS EFFICIENT than your gas stove or furnace at home! But LIE-berals desperately NEEDED GRAVY to buy Hog votes and they had turned our electrical system into a vast LIE-beral slush fund- so economic logic went out the window- with the result that Wynne-bag LIE-berals were destroyed in the election by enraged voters!)

Canada and the U.S. have moved to harmonize some carbon emission standards and earlier this month agreed to cut industrial oil and gas methane emissions by almost half by 2025.

(With Cdns now revealed as UTTERLY UNABLE to reach those emission goals!)

But wind and solar power require equivalent natural gas and/or nuclear power backup and face energy storage, scalability and environmental challenges.

(Mouldy green energy faces all manner of obstacles- with the biggest being cost and the second being how utterly unreliable it is- with Ontari-owe weather being such that we can produce most green energy when we need it LEAST! LIE-beral;s have further crippled their mouldy green energy by signing up tro buy any and all mouldy green that is produced- regardless of our need! With the result that hydro electric generators- the cheapest and cleanest way to generate power- are DUMPING water over their dams- just letting it spill away so there will be room on our power grid for costly mouldy green electricity!)

(For anybody who closely studies what LIE-beral govt has done with our power systems- the choice is CLEAR! LIE-berals should NEVER AGAIN be allowed to meddle with electricity since it is so CLEARLY an essential service that can be used to make or break our economy- depending on greedy gvot whims!)

A recent German study concluded only electrical vehicles with a battery charged by renewable energy have a lower environmental impact than gasoline across the majority of categories.

Compounding the problem is the limited ability of batteries to store energy.

(Yes- and the public has just demonstrated what it thinks of LIE-beral electric Toy cars- by scorning the LIE-berals at election time! Electric Toy cars have HIGH COST, limited range, limited cargo capacity, NO TOWING capacity, a quite limited range and a quite awkward and time consuming refueling system! The public is not interested in such gizmos- and resents seeing tax revenue used to subsidize a privileged few owners!)

As Mark P. Mills writing in Forbes notes, the total annual output of battery storage from the $5 billion Tesla mega-factory under construction in Nevada will, when finished, store about five minutes worth of annual U.S. electricity demand.

It would take the production of 100 mega-factories over 40 years to build a battery “tank” farm capable of storing enough electrical power to match that held in one, 60-million barrel Cushing, Oklahoma oil tank farm.

Ontario’s coal-fired power plants were replaced largely by natural gas plants, cleaner but still an emission-producing fossil fuel, with industry doubling the amount of its own, self-generated diesel power to avoid public power costs, plus a few percent of very costly wind and solar power.

(In other words- private industry finds it CHEAPER to run their own diesel generators rather than rely on electricity supplied by LIE-berals and their Hog allies- thanks to the fact that Ontari-owe electricity is nearly the most costly in all North America and it is supplied through the most UNRELIABLE grid in North America! LIE-beral management of our electrical system has been a DISASTER! Wynne-bag LIE-berals have been in charge for FIFTEEN YEARS and yet their ONLY EXCUSE is to blame previous govts for their neglect- while ignoring the many years in which LIE-berals in power ignored known and growing problems!)!

Indeed, Gates argues we should skip the transition from oil and coal to natural gas in favour of new forms of carbon-free energy that can only be developed by moving “at an unnaturally high pace”.

(Twenty years ago all our power needs were supposed to have been resolved by the development of hydrogen power cells- and govt and others put a LOT of cash into that company! And where are they now? NASA uses hydrogen power cells in its space vehicles because it is simple and reliable technology- its just too bad it is also COSTLY! Meaning its not useful for general public use! Cost is the biggest driver in gthe selection process for energy sources- and fossil fuel gives biggest bang for the buck!)

The Ontario auditor general has criticized the province’s conversion of the Thunder Bay and Atikokan coal plants to operate as back-up power plants, burning biomass pellets, as costly and inefficient.

(There is currently NO local supply of biomass fuel so it is shipped in from Europe- so those plants generate electricity at rates TWENTY FIVE TIMES HIGHER than other forms of power generation! But LIE-berals DID SAVE a bunch of good union Hog jobs by converting those plants- and that is the point- LIE-berals make choices based on votes- not on economics!)

Meanwhile, nearly 200 countries at December’s United Nations COP21 Conference in Paris committed to raise $100 billion per year by 2020 to assist developing countries deal with climate change.

But as of October 2015, the real-world annual budget was only $700 million.

(In other words- the LIE-beral commitment to the environment is B.S. since all they want is photo ops and the chance to BUY HOG VOTES! One really quick way to save the environment would be to admit that Hog pension greed is killing our economy! NO LIE-beral wants to admit what Hogs on airplanes are doing to our environment! In the aftermath of the 9/11 terror attack- when 25 percent of the world airplanes were grounded- THERE WAS a measurable improvement in air quality across the planet! LIE-berals IGNORE the simplest solution to saving both our environment and our debt crippled economy!)

(No LIE-beral wants to admit how many of the people at a typical airport work for govt- at pay rates well beyond what private sector gets! Nor do they want to admit that air travel which is so heavily patronized by Hogs- is the biggest pollution generator on the planet!)
 
Curious Cdn
+1 / -1
#817
Quote: Originally Posted by Walter View Post

Thanks for a coherent post.

We're still waiting for one from you and I'm not holding my breath that one is forthcoming.
 
Walter
#818
Quote: Originally Posted by Curious Cdn View Post

We're still waiting for one from you and I'm not holding my breath that one is forthcoming.

Ad hominem is a poor argument.
 
Walter
#819
Quote: Originally Posted by spilledthebeer View Post

he said and she then said....................NUTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!
Here is a REAL TOPIC:::::
Here is an article illustrating the delusional thinking of most LIE-berals regarding environmental matters. With some comments of my own in brackets):
We need an energy revolution. End financial subsidies for all forms of power generation and invest them in the research and development of new ones.
By Greg Vezina, Special to the Sun.
First posted: Saturday, March 19, 2016 07:32 PM EDT | Updated: Saturday, March 19, 2016 07:40 PM EDT
Both in Canada and globally, we desperately need new ways of thinking about how to meet our future energy needs, using both fossil fuels and green energy.
The problem is, we’re nowhere near doing it.
U.S. billionaire Bill Gates knows the enormity of the challenge.
He advises applying “math skills” to developing technologies to revolutionize the way our energy is made and used.
Gates says we need “a miracle” that can only be found in the research and development of new energy technologies.
He’s committed $2 billion over five years to help.
(With all due respect to Gates- just because he knows something about computers does not mean he knows much about govt or economics coupled with tax law! For one thing- Gates is ignoring all the sacred cows that would be gored if all subsidies were really ended! ALL of our civil service union Hogs have hundreds of billions of dollars invested in all manner of energy companies- and in various companies supplying the energy industry! If those company profits are compromised by a major shift in govt tax policy then there will be HUGE DEMAND put on govt to further subsidize the Hog Gravy Train! And the cost of supplying Hog gravy is already breaking our economy!)
But that compares to $2 billion spent globally every day on capital equipment to locate and produce oil and gas, and we consume 35 billion barrels of oil alone every year.
(Yes- and in 2008 when General Motors and Ford - among other companies were facing bankruptcy- govt decided that since one in seven jobs in Ontari-owe are dependent on auto making and repairing- that they MUST SAVE GM and Ford to protect jobs! The ugly reality is that LIE-beral govt has backed itself into a corner with the Hog gravy train and massive gvot debts blocking any road to change!)
Oil, natural gas and coal which, when burned, produce traditional pollution and greenhouse gas emissions linked to climate change, supply 90% of global energy demand, while 73% of electricity power generation comes from fossil fuels.
While natural gas burns at half the carbon intensity of coal, about 80% of natural gas is methane or CH4.
That traps 25 times more heat than carbon dioxide over a 100-year period and 34 times more over a 20-year period, contributing 28% of the warming carbon dioxide does.
(And yet Wynne-bag LIE-berals SERIOUSLY CONSIDERED FORCING US to sell off all our natural gas fueled furnaces and other such appliances and forcing us to buy all electric units- this in spite of the reality that a natural gas fueled electric generator is much LESS EFFICIENT than your gas stove or furnace at home! But LIE-berals desperately NEEDED GRAVY to buy Hog votes and they had turned our electrical system into a vast LIE-beral slush fund- so economic logic went out the window- with the result that Wynne-bag LIE-berals were destroyed in the election by enraged voters!)
Canada and the U.S. have moved to harmonize some carbon emission standards and earlier this month agreed to cut industrial oil and gas methane emissions by almost half by 2025.
(With Cdns now revealed as UTTERLY UNABLE to reach those emission goals!)
But wind and solar power require equivalent natural gas and/or nuclear power backup and face energy storage, scalability and environmental challenges.
(Mouldy green energy faces all manner of obstacles- with the biggest being cost and the second being how utterly unreliable it is- with Ontari-owe weather being such that we can produce most green energy when we need it LEAST! LIE-beral;s have further crippled their mouldy green energy by signing up tro buy any and all mouldy green that is produced- regardless of our need! With the result that hydro electric generators- the cheapest and cleanest way to generate power- are DUMPING water over their dams- just letting it spill away so there will be room on our power grid for costly mouldy green electricity!)
(For anybody who closely studies what LIE-beral govt has done with our power systems- the choice is CLEAR! LIE-berals should NEVER AGAIN be allowed to meddle with electricity since it is so CLEARLY an essential service that can be used to make or break our economy- depending on greedy gvot whims!)
A recent German study concluded only electrical vehicles with a battery charged by renewable energy have a lower environmental impact than gasoline across the majority of categories.
Compounding the problem is the limited ability of batteries to store energy.
(Yes- and the public has just demonstrated what it thinks of LIE-beral electric Toy cars- by scorning the LIE-berals at election time! Electric Toy cars have HIGH COST, limited range, limited cargo capacity, NO TOWING capacity, a quite limited range and a quite awkward and time consuming refueling system! The public is not interested in such gizmos- and resents seeing tax revenue used to subsidize a privileged few owners!)
As Mark P. Mills writing in Forbes notes, the total annual output of battery storage from the $5 billion Tesla mega-factory under construction in Nevada will, when finished, store about five minutes worth of annual U.S. electricity demand.
It would take the production of 100 mega-factories over 40 years to build a battery “tank” farm capable of storing enough electrical power to match that held in one, 60-million barrel Cushing, Oklahoma oil tank farm.
Ontario’s coal-fired power plants were replaced largely by natural gas plants, cleaner but still an emission-producing fossil fuel, with industry doubling the amount of its own, self-generated diesel power to avoid public power costs, plus a few percent of very costly wind and solar power.
(In other words- private industry finds it CHEAPER to run their own diesel generators rather than rely on electricity supplied by LIE-berals and their Hog allies- thanks to the fact that Ontari-owe electricity is nearly the most costly in all North America and it is supplied through the most UNRELIABLE grid in North America! LIE-beral management of our electrical system has been a DISASTER! Wynne-bag LIE-berals have been in charge for FIFTEEN YEARS and yet their ONLY EXCUSE is to blame previous govts for their neglect- while ignoring the many years in which LIE-berals in power ignored known and growing problems!)!
Indeed, Gates argues we should skip the transition from oil and coal to natural gas in favour of new forms of carbon-free energy that can only be developed by moving “at an unnaturally high pace”.
(Twenty years ago all our power needs were supposed to have been resolved by the development of hydrogen power cells- and govt and others put a LOT of cash into that company! And where are they now? NASA uses hydrogen power cells in its space vehicles because it is simple and reliable technology- its just too bad it is also COSTLY! Meaning its not useful for general public use! Cost is the biggest driver in gthe selection process for energy sources- and fossil fuel gives biggest bang for the buck!)
The Ontario auditor general has criticized the province’s conversion of the Thunder Bay and Atikokan coal plants to operate as back-up power plants, burning biomass pellets, as costly and inefficient.
(There is currently NO local supply of biomass fuel so it is shipped in from Europe- so those plants generate electricity at rates TWENTY FIVE TIMES HIGHER than other forms of power generation! But LIE-berals DID SAVE a bunch of good union Hog jobs by converting those plants- and that is the point- LIE-berals make choices based on votes- not on economics!)
Meanwhile, nearly 200 countries at December’s United Nations COP21 Conference in Paris committed to raise $100 billion per year by 2020 to assist developing countries deal with climate change.
But as of October 2015, the real-world annual budget was only $700 million.
(In other words- the LIE-beral commitment to the environment is B.S. since all they want is photo ops and the chance to BUY HOG VOTES! One really quick way to save the environment would be to admit that Hog pension greed is killing our economy! NO LIE-beral wants to admit what Hogs on airplanes are doing to our environment! In the aftermath of the 9/11 terror attack- when 25 percent of the world airplanes were grounded- THERE WAS a measurable improvement in air quality across the planet! LIE-berals IGNORE the simplest solution to saving both our environment and our debt crippled economy!)
(No LIE-beral wants to admit how many of the people at a typical airport work for govt- at pay rates well beyond what private sector gets! Nor do they want to admit that air travel which is so heavily patronized by Hogs- is the biggest pollution generator on the planet!)

No one reads long posts, Ashley.
 
Curious Cdn
#820
Quote: Originally Posted by Walter View Post

Ad hominem is a poor argument.

See what I mean.
 
spilledthebeer
#821
Quote: Originally Posted by Curious Cdn View Post

See what I mean.




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Here is yet another COHERENT POST for you Curious Cdn......but sadly I suspect you will not be complimentary this time around......



Our local representatives of the Tinfoil Hat Brigade- MHz and Curious Cdn have been making NONSENSE statements about Cdn submarines and such so I decided to rebut their crap. My comments are in brackets):

So, what kind of submarines do you think that we need (besides more of them?) Did you know that, almost simultaneously, we had two submarines out on extended patrols this year, thousands of miles from our own coasts?

HMCS Chicoutimi (the one that had the fire) patrolled the far Western Pacific for just shy of 200 days, this spring.

(That`s nice- but diesel/electric subs can only operate safely in areas covered by allied air forces! So patrolling the western Pacific means Cdn subs passed from cover from one Yankee or Japanese air patrol to another- its that pesky need to surface regularly to run the diesels and recharge the batteries! Diesel/ electric subs are fine for coastal defense- but true long range patrols require nuclear powered sub which many Cdns find abhorent!)

HMCS Windsor spent five months patrolling the Mediterranean at the same time.

(And yes- just how many friendly NATO air bases ate there? Along the French, Spanish, Italian, Greek and Turkish shores? And a cdn sub that enters into the Black Sea can count n air support from Turkish, Bulgarian and Ukranian and Yankee air support!)

(This is NOT to say diesel electric subs are useless- merely that their operational range has been substantially CURBED by modern aircraft! As mentioned- they are coastal defense weapons- either on our coasts or the coasts of our allies! And of course- until the Arctic ice pack melts- diesel/electri9c subs have LIMITED USE in the high Arctic!)

Most Canadians haven't the first clue. Advanced diesel boats like ours are greatly respected for their absolutely silent running capabilities. Nuclear boats are like brass marching bands and subs like ours are used for hunting nuclear subs under water. The antisubmarine forces have great respect for submaries that can vanish to the point where the US Navy is seriously debating whether they should get back into the diesel boat business because of the threat that they pose. Even old rustbuckets like the ones that the North Koreans operate are a real threat to them and advanced diesel boats like the ones that Canada, the Australians, Japanese, Dutch, Swedes and Germans operate are the real deal. We just need twice or thrice the number.

(HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The tinfoil brigade thinks Yankees may be building diesel/electric subs any time soon??????? Britain, France, United States and CHINA ALL run nuclear subs for their range and endurance and ability to stalk targets across the planet! And apparently the Tinfoil gang are UNAWARE of how quiet nuclear subs have become! Guess the Tinfoil Group could not hear the news though the Tin foil?)

(IN fact- the ONLY REASON Canada currently has diesel electric boats is BECAUSE BRITAIN GAVE THEIR LAST 4 BOATS AWAY - TO US -as a military cost cutting exercise! Given a choice between diesel/electric or nuclear- BOTH BRITAIN AND FRANCE chose the nuclear option ONLY!)

(There are TWO REASONS to run diesel electric boats- the first is simply COST! Diesel electric boats are MUCH CHEAPER! The other reason is MORAL! Countries like Canada and Japan SHUN any taint of nuclear power in their military- for political reasons!)

(Other LIE-beral military historical highlights include Pierre Trudeau trying to establish a dock workers union so he could arrange strikes in Montreal to interfere with the shipment of vital war supplies to Britain and hamper what Trudope saw as “Britains war of imperialism against Nazi Germany!)

(We also have Lie-beral Jean Chretien cancelling the purchase of EH 101 helicopters simply because a Conservative ordered them. And the EH 101 was the strongest and safest craft flying-already being mass produced for various air forces-with a proven track record!)

(When a civilian aircraft went down in northern Manitoba and the first people on the scene were media types in a rented CIVILIAN helicopter. Chretien was SHAMED into buying new copters. So Chretien bought a smaller (CHEAPER) model- the Cormorant- just coming on the market-with NO maintenance track record- and then LIE-berals had to deal with EXPENSIVE cracks in the overly fragile tail rotors. The purchase price plus the tail rotor mess plus the FIVE HUNDRED MILLION DOLLAR fine Chretien paid for canceling the EH 101 contract would have bought us a bunch of the safer and stronger EH 101 craft. And of course the smaller craft have to do multiple trips with extra wear and tear and risks, for tasks the EH 101 could do in one hop!)

(The EH 101 had 3 engines and was GUARANTEED to get back safely to base on 2 engines if one failed-though it might have to dump electronics and weapons and other such gear to lighten the load-and with that PROVEN TRACK RECORD being in place.....the helicopter substitute chosen Chretien has TWO engines and if one engine fails it is simply guaranteed not to be completely WRECKED when it hits the ground during an engine failure!)

(If you were a Cdn flying ONE of these craft out over the Beaufort Sea- would you pick the one that will bring you back to base with one engine out? Or would you choose the Cormorant- guaranteed not to kill you in the controlled crash if an engine goes out? This a HARD QUESTION for the Tinfoil Hat Brigade!!!!!!!!!!)

(There is also the submarine purchase engineered by Chretien LIE-berals after fiscal limitations meant that Royal Navy had 4 spare diesel electric subs available and wanted to simply GIVE the boats to Canada in exchange for access to Cdn training bases and such....Royal Navy being so generous in part because they planned to get their money back eventually by selling us spare parts for the subs!)

(It is not well known but diesel/electric subs run on 18 volts and there is not a large supply of parts available since few models exist! By comparison nuclear subs run on 24 volts and due to the number of nuclear subs out there -Britain, France and US all run gang of them - thus parts for Nuclear subs-radar and sonar, torpedoes, missiles, air scrubbers and all that are CHEAPER....so Chretien ordered the diesel electric subs to be COMPLETELY rewired to use 24 volt equipment!)

(This LIE-beral penn6y pinching move pissed off Britain-they cannot sell 18 volt parts for subs rewired for 24 volts! So the cost of re-wiring the subs soared. While Chretien argued over cost the subs sat rusting in harbour for several years and so Chretien ordered them back to Canada to have the work done here-with one of the subs having a LEAKING MAIN HATCH- that would be the one that had THE FIRE!)

(The north Atlantic is ROUGH in November and nobody should be surprised that enough seawater got into the leaking main hatch to short out wiring and cause a fire that killed a Cdn seaman? What price Lie-beral penny pinching now? Chretien LIE-berals only bought the subs to temporarily erase the NATO Slacker label that LIE-beral Canada was wearing yet again!)

(And now we have Our idiot Boy refusing to be concerned about Isis and abandoning our allies and trying to put a good face on his decision to bring in tens of thousands of Syrian jihadist security risks into Canada! The idiot has even suggested returning Isis fighters “can be a powerful voice in Canada”! I presume he means they will advocate eloquently for the World Wide Caliphate?)

William Lyon Mackenzie (with ally Joseph Papaneau) did us all a favour by hitting at and persuading British to remove the grossly greedy Family Compact running Canada and milking it like a cash cow.......now who will free us from the greed of this new Family Compact- the wretched Lie-berals and their civil service union Hog allies with their endless entitlements?)

(As for LIE-beral PM Mackenzie King- he was never a patriot-merely a cynical opportunist and cunning lunatic who communed with the dead - mother buried 20 years previously gave good LIE-beral advice and several of the Beagkle dogs that Kings was devoted to were also fine advisors- being well informed even while in Dog Heaven!)

(King was a cynical LIE-beral who would have sold out the country to Adolf Hitler (along with Pierre Trudeau) in a heart beat if it kept him in power! After all- |King MET one on one with Hitler in Munich and then came back here to tell us “that Hitler is a dour but basically good man, bringing some much needed discipline and hope to the German people”!)

(So lets all hail Mackenzie King as he is the model Lie-beral leader from which all later Lie-beral leaders are built-INCLUDING Our cynical idiot Boy with nice hair....FOR BRAINS!)
 
Curious Cdn
#822
The Russians are continuing to develop and build diesel boats because they are so stealthy and dangerous (and affordable).

http://nationalinterest.org/blog/the...he-black-18140

http://www.news.com.au/technology/in...e3168b8f06e1d8


... and yes, the US Navy is considering getting back into the diesel business ...

http://m.usni.org/magazines/proceedi...s-case-diesels

http://www.realcleardefense.com/arti...ds_113832.html


... and don't spill the beer, for gawd's sake!
 
Walter
#823
Quote: Originally Posted by spilledthebeer View Post

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Here is yet another COHERENT POST for you Curious Cdn......but sadly I suspect you will not be complimentary this time around......
Our local representatives of the Tinfoil Hat Brigade- MHz and Curious Cdn have been making NONSENSE statements about Cdn submarines and such so I decided to rebut their crap. My comments are in brackets):
So, what kind of submarines do you think that we need (besides more of them?) Did you know that, almost simultaneously, we had two submarines out on extended patrols this year, thousands of miles from our own coasts?
HMCS Chicoutimi (the one that had the fire) patrolled the far Western Pacific for just shy of 200 days, this spring.
(That`s nice- but diesel/electric subs can only operate safely in areas covered by allied air forces! So patrolling the western Pacific means Cdn subs passed from cover from one Yankee or Japanese air patrol to another- its that pesky need to surface regularly to run the diesels and recharge the batteries! Diesel/ electric subs are fine for coastal defense- but true long range patrols require nuclear powered sub which many Cdns find abhorent!)
HMCS Windsor spent five months patrolling the Mediterranean at the same time.
(And yes- just how many friendly NATO air bases ate there? Along the French, Spanish, Italian, Greek and Turkish shores? And a cdn sub that enters into the Black Sea can count n air support from Turkish, Bulgarian and Ukranian and Yankee air support!)
(This is NOT to say diesel electric subs are useless- merely that their operational range has been substantially CURBED by modern aircraft! As mentioned- they are coastal defense weapons- either on our coasts or the coasts of our allies! And of course- until the Arctic ice pack melts- diesel/electri9c subs have LIMITED USE in the high Arctic!)
Most Canadians haven't the first clue. Advanced diesel boats like ours are greatly respected for their absolutely silent running capabilities. Nuclear boats are like brass marching bands and subs like ours are used for hunting nuclear subs under water. The antisubmarine forces have great respect for submaries that can vanish to the point where the US Navy is seriously debating whether they should get back into the diesel boat business because of the threat that they pose. Even old rustbuckets like the ones that the North Koreans operate are a real threat to them and advanced diesel boats like the ones that Canada, the Australians, Japanese, Dutch, Swedes and Germans operate are the real deal. We just need twice or thrice the number.
(HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The tinfoil brigade thinks Yankees may be building diesel/electric subs any time soon??????? Britain, France, United States and CHINA ALL run nuclear subs for their range and endurance and ability to stalk targets across the planet! And apparently the Tinfoil gang are UNAWARE of how quiet nuclear subs have become! Guess the Tinfoil Group could not hear the news though the Tin foil?)
(IN fact- the ONLY REASON Canada currently has diesel electric boats is BECAUSE BRITAIN GAVE THEIR LAST 4 BOATS AWAY - TO US -as a military cost cutting exercise! Given a choice between diesel/electric or nuclear- BOTH BRITAIN AND FRANCE chose the nuclear option ONLY!)
(There are TWO REASONS to run diesel electric boats- the first is simply COST! Diesel electric boats are MUCH CHEAPER! The other reason is MORAL! Countries like Canada and Japan SHUN any taint of nuclear power in their military- for political reasons!)
(Other LIE-beral military historical highlights include Pierre Trudeau trying to establish a dock workers union so he could arrange strikes in Montreal to interfere with the shipment of vital war supplies to Britain and hamper what Trudope saw as “Britains war of imperialism against Nazi Germany!)
(We also have Lie-beral Jean Chretien cancelling the purchase of EH 101 helicopters simply because a Conservative ordered them. And the EH 101 was the strongest and safest craft flying-already being mass produced for various air forces-with a proven track record!)
(When a civilian aircraft went down in northern Manitoba and the first people on the scene were media types in a rented CIVILIAN helicopter. Chretien was SHAMED into buying new copters. So Chretien bought a smaller (CHEAPER) model- the Cormorant- just coming on the market-with NO maintenance track record- and then LIE-berals had to deal with EXPENSIVE cracks in the overly fragile tail rotors. The purchase price plus the tail rotor mess plus the FIVE HUNDRED MILLION DOLLAR fine Chretien paid for canceling the EH 101 contract would have bought us a bunch of the safer and stronger EH 101 craft. And of course the smaller craft have to do multiple trips with extra wear and tear and risks, for tasks the EH 101 could do in one hop!)
(The EH 101 had 3 engines and was GUARANTEED to get back safely to base on 2 engines if one failed-though it might have to dump electronics and weapons and other such gear to lighten the load-and with that PROVEN TRACK RECORD being in place.....the helicopter substitute chosen Chretien has TWO engines and if one engine fails it is simply guaranteed not to be completely WRECKED when it hits the ground during an engine failure!)
(If you were a Cdn flying ONE of these craft out over the Beaufort Sea- would you pick the one that will bring you back to base with one engine out? Or would you choose the Cormorant- guaranteed not to kill you in the controlled crash if an engine goes out? This a HARD QUESTION for the Tinfoil Hat Brigade!!!!!!!!!!)
(There is also the submarine purchase engineered by Chretien LIE-berals after fiscal limitations meant that Royal Navy had 4 spare diesel electric subs available and wanted to simply GIVE the boats to Canada in exchange for access to Cdn training bases and such....Royal Navy being so generous in part because they planned to get their money back eventually by selling us spare parts for the subs!)
(It is not well known but diesel/electric subs run on 18 volts and there is not a large supply of parts available since few models exist! By comparison nuclear subs run on 24 volts and due to the number of nuclear subs out there -Britain, France and US all run gang of them - thus parts for Nuclear subs-radar and sonar, torpedoes, missiles, air scrubbers and all that are CHEAPER....so Chretien ordered the diesel electric subs to be COMPLETELY rewired to use 24 volt equipment!)
(This LIE-beral penn6y pinching move pissed off Britain-they cannot sell 18 volt parts for subs rewired for 24 volts! So the cost of re-wiring the subs soared. While Chretien argued over cost the subs sat rusting in harbour for several years and so Chretien ordered them back to Canada to have the work done here-with one of the subs having a LEAKING MAIN HATCH- that would be the one that had THE FIRE!)
(The north Atlantic is ROUGH in November and nobody should be surprised that enough seawater got into the leaking main hatch to short out wiring and cause a fire that killed a Cdn seaman? What price Lie-beral penny pinching now? Chretien LIE-berals only bought the subs to temporarily erase the NATO Slacker label that LIE-beral Canada was wearing yet again!)
(And now we have Our idiot Boy refusing to be concerned about Isis and abandoning our allies and trying to put a good face on his decision to bring in tens of thousands of Syrian jihadist security risks into Canada! The idiot has even suggested returning Isis fighters “can be a powerful voice in Canada”! I presume he means they will advocate eloquently for the World Wide Caliphate?)
William Lyon Mackenzie (with ally Joseph Papaneau) did us all a favour by hitting at and persuading British to remove the grossly greedy Family Compact running Canada and milking it like a cash cow.......now who will free us from the greed of this new Family Compact- the wretched Lie-berals and their civil service union Hog allies with their endless entitlements?)
(As for LIE-beral PM Mackenzie King- he was never a patriot-merely a cynical opportunist and cunning lunatic who communed with the dead - mother buried 20 years previously gave good LIE-beral advice and several of the Beagkle dogs that Kings was devoted to were also fine advisors- being well informed even while in Dog Heaven!)
(King was a cynical LIE-beral who would have sold out the country to Adolf Hitler (along with Pierre Trudeau) in a heart beat if it kept him in power! After all- |King MET one on one with Hitler in Munich and then came back here to tell us “that Hitler is a dour but basically good man, bringing some much needed discipline and hope to the German people”!)
(So lets all hail Mackenzie King as he is the model Lie-beral leader from which all later Lie-beral leaders are built-INCLUDING Our cynical idiot Boy with nice hair....FOR BRAINS!)

No one reads long posts, Ashley.
 
MHz
#824
Quote: Originally Posted by taxslave View Post

I only like trump because he drives leftwards nuts

Seriously?? The gas gauge didn't even move, that is how close they already were.
 
spilledthebeer
#825
Quote: Originally Posted by MHz View Post

Seriously?? The gas gauge didn't even move, that is how close they already were.


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Oh POOR MHz!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Are you enjoying your visit to our planet??????????????????????????


I suspect you are not enjoying your stay as there is just so very much that you do not understand!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Apparently you have not all those photos of the Russian Black Sea Fleet that the govt is trying to CLEAN UP before the rusted out DIESEL POWERED HULKS sink completely!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Old issues of National Geographic magazine are actually a good source of such photos as the magazine editors had a lot to say about leaking fuel tanks and pollution of various sorts coming from the wrecks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


As for your various assurances regarding military matters- WE ALL KNOW that your "advice" is always designed to be misleading, costly, wasteful and tending towards policies and programs that are INEFFECTIVE AT BEST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Walter
#826
Better attempt at a shorter post, Ashley, but yer punctuation is still overdone.
 
BelBob
#827
Quote:

"you know it's over when they need to bring up hillary."

this!
 
spilledthebeer
#828
Quote: Originally Posted by BelBob View Post

this!


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Lets discuss LIE-beral HYPOCRISY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Here is yet another article illustrating poisoned LIE-beral influence on our school system. With some comments of my own in brackets):

Racial disparities in school discipline

By Walter E. Williams, Special to Postmedia Network. Published: October 1, 2018
Updated: October 1, 2018 4:32 PM EDT

Filed Under: Toronto SUN/ Opinion/ Columnists

U.S. President Barack Obama’s first education secretary, Arne Duncan, gave a speech on the 45th anniversary of “Bloody Sunday” at the Edmund Pettus Bridge in Selma, Ala., where, in 1965, state troopers beat and tear-gassed hundreds of peaceful civil rights marchers who were demanding voting rights. Later that year, as a result of widespread support across the nation, the U.S. Congress passed the Voting Rights Act. Secretary Duncan titled his speech “Crossing the Next Bridge.” Duncan told the crowd that black students “are more than three times as likely to be expelled as their white peers,” adding that Martin Luther King would be “dismayed.”

(Yes! King would be dismayed by the stupid, anti white bias of modern black kids who see success in school as “selling out” to hated white society! King wanted blacks to JOIN society- NOT tear it down!)

Gail Heriot, a law professor at the University of San Diego and a member of the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights, and her special assistant and counsellor, Alison Somin, have written an important article in the Texas Review of Law & Politics, titled “The Department of Education’s Obama-Era Initiative on Racial Disparities in School Discipline” (Spring 201. The article is about the departments of Education and Justice’s “disparate impact” vision, wherein they see racial discrimination as the factor that explains why black male students face suspension and expulsion more often than other students.

(LIE-berals are following the Socialist path that dictates that all social problems are the result of white bad behaviour! Socialism is NEVER WRONG- so LIE-berals MISTAKENLY CLAIM!)

Faced with threats from the Department of Education’s Office for Civil Rights, schools have instituted new disciplinary policies. For example, after the public school district in Oklahoma City was investigated by the OCR, there was a 42.5% decrease in the number of suspensions. According to an article in The Oklahoman, one teacher said, “Students are yelling, cursing, hitting and screaming at teachers and nothing is being done but teachers are being told to teach and ignore the behaviours.” According to Chalkbeat, new high school teachers left one school because they didn’t feel safe. There have been cases in which students have assaulted teachers and returned to school the next day.

(What it comes down to is LIE-beral mandated racism of the most extreme sort! Blacks and others such as Cdn natives have successfully persuaded LIE-berals that they may only punish or jail the same number of black criminals and trouble makers as WHITES! And it is NOT RELEVANT in the eyes of LIE-berals- desperate to buy votes at any price- that misguided blacks and natives commit MORE CRIMES than white people!)

(This is affirmative action run AMOK! Turns out that the LIE-beral narrative that allows blacks and natives and others to think of themselves as oppressed minorities- in spite of current social conditions has led them to seek REVENGE!
LIE-berals encourage minorities to act out in stupid and destructive ways!)

Many of the complaints about black student behaviour are coming from black teachers. I doubt whether they could be accused of racial discrimination against black students. The first vice president of the St. Paul, Minn., chapter of the NAACP said it’s “very disturbing” that the school district would retaliate against a black teacher “for simply voicing the concern” that when black students are not held accountable for misbehaving, they are set up for failure in life.

(Oh- LIE-beral values are now so utterly twisted that a black teacher with harsh words for some students is dismissed as a TRAITOR and SELLOUT!)

An article in Education Week earlier this year discusses the widespread assaults of teachers across the country: “In the 2015-16 school year, 5.8 percent of the nation’s 3.8 million teachers were physically attacked by a student. Almost 10 percent were threatened with injury, according to federal education data.”

(And such violent ideas begin at home- where either parents are absent or are actually feeding the kids stupid ideas! LIE-berals have launched a civil war under the guise of buying votes!))

Measures that propose harsh punishment for students who assault teachers have not been successful. In North Carolina, a bill was introduced that proposed that students 16 or older could be charged with a felony if they assaulted a teacher. It was opposed by children’s advocacy and disability rights groups. In Minnesota, a 2016 bill would have required school boards to automatically expel a student who threatened or inflicted bodily harm on a teacher for up to a year. It, too, was opposed, even in light of the fact that teachers have suffered serious bodily harm, such as the case in which a high school student slammed a teacher into a concrete wall and then squeezed his throat. That teacher ended up with a traumatic brain injury.

(LIE-berals are so wedded to their image of ethnic minority as victim that any and all attacks are EXCUSED as the result of LIE-beral JUSTIFIED RACIAL FRUSTRATION- REGARDLESS OF LOGIC OR REALITY!)

There are plenty of visuals of assaults on teachers. Here’s a tiny sample: Florida’s Seminole Middle School, Pennsylvania’s Cheltenham High School, Illinois’ Rich Central High School. Byongook Moon, a professor in the criminal justice department at the University of Texas at San Antonio, says that according to his study of 1,600 teachers, about 44% of teachers who had been victims of physical assault said that being attacked had a negative impact on their job performance. Nearly 30% said they could no longer trust the student who had attacked them, and 27% said they thought of quitting their teaching career afterwards.

(These sort of numbers are also common in Canada and are- in part- the result of the public frustration with teachers who are Lords of the working world- thanks to their fine salaries, solid gold pensions, their endless holidays and constant refusal to tell us honestly how POORLY our kids are really performing in school!)

(If you want to do as teachers do and dismiss any critic of our school system as a dim witted AMATEUR- then you cannot then turn around- as our teachers have tried to do- and make excuses when your professional “successes” are revealed to be FALSE by literacy testing and endless lists of outrageous behaviour by students running wild in class! Public contempt for our “professional” educators and their endless excuses is rising- and the kids are catching that mood!)

My question is: Is there any reason whatsoever for adults to tolerate this kind of behaviour from our young people?

(No! People trying to do their jobs honestly should not risk being attacked by pea brained thugs! But it all comes back to LIE-berals! It is teachers and their civil service union Hog allies along with a cabal of BIGOTS from groups like Black Lives Matter and natives from Idle No More and American Indian Movement that have put those vile, hypocrite LIE-berals into power in the first place! And it is LIE-berals who are tying the hands of teachers and cops who are trying to restore some sense of order! LIE-berals consider that buying votes is more important than a few terrorized teachers! After all - they are well paid, with lots of holidays and generous pensions!)

Walter E. Williams is a professor of economics at George Mason University.
 
Christian
#829
Canada have conservative president on the ways plus America have citizen to vote biden so whole natural 7th of Western with Finland last number or is many well across Western are democracy but nobody is a better choise that's biden of America and macron of the world did I spell pretty ms Jewish like??
 
Christian
#830
I am feelings.
 
Walter
#831
Go away, Avro.
 
Curious Cdn
+1
#832
Quote: Originally Posted by Christian View Post

I am feelings.

nothing more than feelings,
Trying to forget my feelings of love.
Teardrops rolling down on my face,
Trying to forget my feelings of love.
Feelings, for all my life I'll feel it.
I wish I've never met you, girl; you'll never come again.
 
Christian
#833
Quote: Originally Posted by Curious Cdn View Post

nothing more than feelings,
Trying to forget my feelings of love.
Teardrops rolling down on my face,
Trying to forget my feelings of love.
Feelings, for all my life I'll feel it.
I wish I've never met you, girl; you'll never come again.

Is legal with Metal of the Western.

I feel also you.

 
Curious Cdn
#834
Quote: Originally Posted by Christian View Post

Is legal with Metal of the Western.
I feel also you.

Sookie-nookie.
 
Christian
#835
Quote: Originally Posted by Curious Cdn View Post

Sookie-nookie.

Is part of Christians with Metal the least of the Finland, Canada, USA, Germany plus Sweden and Norway maybe big knowledge of thus countries is a small kind in the East but bigger in thus the least of the West and thou will accept like white best choise in the shop. Not every peaces like Hip Hop of Western humanity.
 
Walter
#836
Go away, Avro, yer schtick is tiresome.
 
bluebyrd35
#837
Quote: Originally Posted by pgs View Post

I guess all those early mornings and long days just wasn’tworth It after all.

What? Where did I say that? My chldren & grandchilden learned a work ethic. as well as counting being independent a plus. When they all went in for other professions and while loving the farm, none were interested in farming.

Now after retirement I wanted to do a bit of travelling. So when I was offered a million & half dollars plus keeping the family home and river frontage why would I say no??

So, why would anyone think it I felt it wasn't worth it? My parents and grandparents believed in having an occupation that one enjoyed and offered challenges was very important I was doubly fortunate as I had several such.
 
MHz
-1
#838
Quote: Originally Posted by Walter View Post

Better attempt at a shorter post, Ashley, but yer punctuation is still overdone.

If he cut back on those you wouldn't be able to come up with any reply at all.
 
MHz
#839
Quote: Originally Posted by spilledthebeer View Post

Oh POOR MHz!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Are you enjoying your visit to our planet??????????????????????????

I pain to be delivered from it, apparently I have miles to to go before I sleep. It doesn't even matter where I am when you wake up.
Quote:

I suspect you are not enjoying your stay as there is just so very much that you do not understand!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The time to get bored with a place is after you have learned all there is to know about a place. Even though the religious studies of the Jews hit a bump in the road about 600AD there is still hope they could repair the damage rather than just moving onto politics and think that is any easier and has less pit-falls. Like you indicated I have lots to learn about your version of the world.
I don't get the part where you say one thing and do the opposite and the better you are at that the more coins you end up with in your pockets.
Ever see the first communication sent 'out here' from the brightest NASA could conjure up? C. Sagan drew a pic of us and it was a big body and a small head. The reply came back in the form of a crop-circle only a few changes were worth noting, they have a big head and a small body. On that alone who would have the best working brain?


https://www.ancient-code.com/1974-sc...ived-response/

Quote:

Apparently you have not all those photos of the Russian Black Sea Fleet that the govt is trying to CLEAN UP before the rusted out DIESEL POWERED HULKS sink completely!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Comrade, at least get the location right. Is your training to become a professional liar getting the better of you and now you can function no other way? No wonder you are always hiding in the corner and whispering to somebody behind the drapes.


Quote:

Old issues of National Geographic magazine are actually a good source of such photos as the magazine editors had a lot to say about leaking fuel tanks and pollution of various sorts coming from the wrecks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm pretty sure that was porn based in the only missing pages were about African Tribes before they discovered clothes, that and girls track and field at the Olympics. I'm surprised betting and purchases are not as open as in Roman days.


Quote:

As for your various assurances regarding military matters- WE ALL KNOW that your "advice" is always designed to be misleading, costly, wasteful and tending towards policies and programs that are INEFFECTIVE AT BEST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ya got me , what can I say. (I hope you get the $3.40/post troll reward as you put a lot of effort into it)
 
Curious Cdn
+1
#840
Quote: Originally Posted by Walter View Post

Go away, Avro, yer schtick is tiresome.

I was just going to say the same thing about yours.
 

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