Trudeau and the Pipelines

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Trudeau asks for patience as rail blockades continue, bars Scheer from leaders' meeting

Trudeau met with opposition leaders to discuss government response to protests — but didn't invite Scheer

John Paul Tasker · CBC News · Posted: Feb 18, 2020 9:28 AM ET | Last Updated: 3 minutes ago
Addressing the House of Commons Tuesday, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau asked Canadians to be patient with his government as it seeks a negotiated end to Indigenous protests that have crippled the country's transportation network.
Trudeau said his government is committed to "dialogue" over the use of force with the Indigenous protesters who have shut down CN Rail in eastern Canada and much of Via Rail's services nationwide by blocking a key artery in southern Ontario.
Conservative Leader Andrew Scheer said Trudeau's call for more talks with the protesters has emboldened "radical activists" who are intent on holding the Canadian economy hostage.

In a forceful response to Trudeau, Scheer said the prime minister's reluctance to use the police to stop the illegal blockades was akin to appeasement, a stance that privileges activists over "hard-working Canadians" and Indigenous people who support development.

Trudeau held a meeting with opposition leaders later Tuesday but didn't extend an invitation to Scheer. Speaking to reporters after the talks, Trudeau said Scheer's speech signalled he isn't willing to cooperate.

"Mr. Scheer disqualified himself from constructive discussions with his unacceptable speech earlier today," Trudeau said.

The blockade has been in place for 12 days and CN has been forced to shutter its network east of Toronto since Friday — a devastating development for businesspeople, commuters and farmers who rely on the railway for their livelihoods. The protesters from the Tyendinaga Mohawk Territory say they are acting in solidarity with some of the Wet'suwet'en hereditary chiefs in B.C. who oppose the Coastal GasLink pipeline project running through their traditional territory.
"On all sides, people are upset and frustrated. I get it," Trudeau said. "It's understandable because this is about things that matter — rights and livelihoods, the rule of law and our democracy."
While the prime minister did not lay out a clear path forward in his speech, Trudeau seemed to be ruling out police intervention at this point in favour of more conversations with the protesters. He said the suggestion from the Conservative Opposition that Ottawa forcibly remove the protesters from camps along the CN tracks in Belleville, Ont. is "not helpful."

"Finding a solution will not be simple. It will take determination, hard work and co-operation," Trudeau said. "We are creating a space for peaceful honest dialogue with willing partners ... We need Canadians to show both resolve and collaboration. Everyone has a stake in getting this right."
An hours-long meeting between Indigenous Services Minister Marc Miller and the Mohawk on Saturday failed to end the blockade. Crown-Indigenous Relations Minister Carolyn Bennett flew to B.C. Monday to meet with Wet'suwet'en and Gitxsan hereditary chiefs, but that meeting never actually took place.

Trudeau said that, for too long, the federal government has ignored Indigenous demands to solve lingering land and treaty disputes. He chastised Conservative Leader Andrew Scheer (without mentioning him by name) and other politicians he accused of pushing Ottawa to "act with haste and boil this down to slogans and ignore the complexities."
'Weakest response to a national crisis'
Scheer called Trudeau's address "the weakest response to a national crisis in Canadian history."

He said Trudeau's speech offered Canadians "a word salad" with no meaningful plan to restore rail service and end the illegal blockades that are hampering the country's economy.

"The prime minister's statement was a complete abdication of responsibility and leadership," Scheer said. "The prime minister has emboldened and encouraged this kind of behaviour."

Scheer said Trudeau is standing with activists who are determined to shut down the country's energy industry.
"Will our country be one of the rule of the law, or will our country be one of the rule of the mob?" Scheer asked.
On Friday, Scheer said the prime minister should direct the RCMP to remove the protesters. The Ontario Provincial Police are on hand in Tyendinaga but they have not yet enforced a court injunction that gives them the power to dismantle the protest camps and arrest those behind the blockade.

Trudeau had a meeting with Bloc Québécois Leader Yves-François Blanchet, NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh and Elizabeth May, the Green Party's parliamentary leader, in his office Tuesday to discuss the government's response to the ongoing blockades.
Scheer said Trudeau was using the meeting to distract from a "disastrous speech" that was void of any concrete plan to dismantle the blockades. He said the other opposition leaders were used as pawns by the Prime Minister's Office.

Singh said the meeting with the prime minister was "constructive" and Scheer should be denounced for the speech he delivered in the Commons. "I think what he said was reprehensible. What he said was divisive. It was purposely designed to pit some groups against another," Singh said.

During a news conference in Ottawa Tuesday morning, AFN National Chief Perry Bellegarde said all the players — federal and provincial politicians, hereditary Wet'suwet'en chiefs and elected band officials — need to come to the table.
"It's on everybody. It's not on any one individual," he said. "I'm just calling on all the parties to come together, get this dialogue started in a constructive way."
Mohawk Council of Kanesatake Grand Chief Serge Otsi Simon called on protesters to end the rail blockades as a "show of good faith."
"Bringing down the blockades doesn't mean that you surrender. It doesn't mean we're going to lay down and let them kick us around. No, it would show compassion," he said.
"I'm simply pleading with the protesters ... Have you made your point yet? Has the government and industry understood? I think they did."
Business groups were calling on the federal government Tuesday to take steps to immediately restore full rail service.

Dennis Darby, CEO of Canadian Manufacturers and Exporters, said the situation is "beyond serious."

The group estimates that goods worth about $425 million are being stranded every day the blockade continues — and it will take three to four days of work to recover from a single day of disruption.

Bob Masterson, president and CEO of the Chemistry Industry Association of Canada, said a prolonged shutdown inevitably would lead to shortages of his industry's products, such as jet fuel for planes, propane for home heating and chlorine for drinking water.

Protesters with the Mohawks of Tyendinaga have been stationed beside the tracks near Belleville, Ont., since Feb. 6 to protest the RCMP's raids in Wet'suwet'en territory in northern B.C.
Ottawa committed to quick, peaceful resolution to cross-country pipeline protests: Trudeau
Via Rail announced Tuesday that all trains running between Toronto and Windsor, Toronto and Sarnia and on the Toronto-Niagara route will resume operating as of Thursday morning. Partial service is also set to resume between Quebec City, Montreal and Ottawa beginning Thursday, the operator said.
Almost all other Via Rail services remain cancelled, with the exception of Sudbury-White River and Churchill-The Pas, until further notice.
Via says the partial resumption of service between Ottawa and Quebec City follows a notification received from Canadian National Railway.

CN laid off 450 workers today.
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So the one person that has anything constructive to say gets banned from the meeting for having a plan to move forward.
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CN laid off 450 workers today.

Numbers only . They are just numbers .
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CN laid off 450 workers today.

Thank you, TC Energy
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Thank you, TC Energy

TC as in TrudOWE the cocksucker.
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Ottawa rejects calls to shut down rail blockades, will focus on negotiation



The federal government is ramping up its efforts to convince Indigenous communities to peacefully end a series of rail blockades, as Canadian National Railway Co. announced 1,000 temporary layoffs on Sunday, reflecting the growing economic impact of the protests.

Prime Minister Justin Trudeau on Sunday cancelled a trip to the Caribbean to focus on the blockades and Indigenous Services Minister Marc Miller said that Ottawa doesn’t believe police intervention is the solution to anti-pipeline protests that have shut down much of the country’s rail system. Some premiers and the federal Conservative opposition had called on the government in recent days to take a hard line, enforce injunctions and remove protesters.

Businesses have warned of economic damage as trains typically carrying tens of thousands of commuters and billions of dollars worth of freight have been idled in railyards and sidings across the country since the blockades began on Feb. 6. CN sent out 450 of an estimated 1,000 temporary layoff notices on Sunday, spokesman Alexandre Boulé confirmed, as protests have shuttered much of the railway’s eastern Canadian network.

Late Sunday, federal Transport Minister Marc Garneau relaxed a ministerial order that had limited the speed of trains transporting combustible cargo such as crude oil. The order followed a fiery derailment in Saskatchewan in early February. CN said the change would allow it to increase the speed of its shipments in Western Canada, which would help compensate for the blockades in the east.

The protests have been spearheaded by groups opposed to the Coastal GasLink pipeline in northern British Columbia and the RCMP’s enforcement of injunctions to dislodge protesters who had been blocking construction of the $6.6-billion pipeline. All 20 elected First Nation councils along the natural gas pipeline’s route support the project, but a group of eight Wet’suwet’en hereditary house chiefs have led a vocal campaign to oppose the pipeline’s construction.

Crown Indigenous Relations Minister Carolyn Bennett is expected to meet with Indigenous leaders in British Columbia on Monday. The Gitxsan First Nation temporarily took down a rail blockade near Hazelton, B.C., last week pending a proposed meeting with the minister, provincial officials and Wet’suwet’en hereditary chiefs.

Chantal Gagnon, a spokeswoman for the Prime Minister, said Mr. Trudeau has been in communication on the weekend with Deputy Prime Minister Chrystia Freeland, Public Safety Minister Bill Blair, Mr. Garneau and Ms. Bennett.

“Our priority remains the safety and security of all Canadians and the swift resolution of this issue to restore service across the rail system in accordance with the law,” she said in a statement.

Opinion: Every day rail blockade lasts, Trudeau’s stock drops lower

Mr. Miller, the Indigenous Services Minister, said the federal government has learned from two bloody police raids on First Nations encampments in recent decades, in Oka, Que., in 1990 and in Ipperwash, Ont., in 1995. More dialogue with Indigenous leaders and communities is the only solution to the continuing blockades, he said on Sunday.

“We have the experience of Oka 30 years ago where people went in with police and someone died. My question to Canadians, my questions to myself and to fellow politicians regardless of the party, is whether we do things the same old way and repeat the errors of the past, or do we take the time to do it right?” he said in an interview.

A blockade in the Tyendinaga Mohawk Territory near Belleville, Ont., has stopped most traffic on CN’s rail network east of Winnipeg.

Via Rail said on Sunday that it has cancelled all trains across Canada, except for two secondary routes, until the end of Monday. More than 83,000 passengers have had their trips cancelled since the Ontario blockade started.

One of Montreal’s commuter lines has been shut down by a blockade in the Kahnawake Mohawk Territory outside the city. The provincial authority that operates the line said it is planning to run buses for commuters on Monday.

Smaller protests were also held on the weekend in Vancouver, Vaughan, Ont., and Niagara Falls, Ont.

Protesters at the Tyendinaga blockade declined to speak to media, including regarding Mr. Trudeau’s plans – except to say they believed it was unlikely that he would show up and speak to them in person.

Four Ontario Provincial Police officers hung back several hundred metres from the blockade Sunday, coming closer only for a brief check-in with the protesters in the late afternoon. “The dialogue is still open,” said Sergeant Cynthia Savard, the OPP’s regional community safety officer, in a phone interview. “It’s about keeping a peaceful, safe environment.”

Several dozen supporters arrived over the course of the day, delivering supplies including pizza, propane, firewood and Tim Hortons coffee. Some came from hundreds of kilometres away to share their support for the blockaders and the Wet’suwet’en hereditary chiefs, and share their fears over the natural gas pipeline in B.C.

“It’s our future that’s going to be destroyed – it’s really important for youth,” said Malika Gasbaoui, 17, who is Ojibwa-Métis and visited from the Laurentians in Quebec. Her mother, Anna, added that “a lot of people have been saying that the majority of native people, and non-native people in Canada, are for pipelines – which is not true. … The more these guys destroy, the less we’re going to have.”

Mike Salmon came with his family from Kitchener, Ont. to bring the protesters tarps, toilet paper and batteries. “I think it’s such a sign of the times that Canada’s been going through this wake-up call about reconciliation, and the whole planet is going through a wake-up call around climate change,” he said.

Kenneth Deer, the secretary of the Mohawk Nation at Kahnawake, said his community’s blockade has been supported by the local band council and he expects it will remain in place until the Wet’suwet’en hereditary chiefs tell them to stand down. Kahnawake was one of the communities at the centre of the Oka crisis.

“They blocked highways and railroads during the Oka crisis. They helped us. Now the shoe is on the other foot and we’re going to help them,” said Mr. Deer. “This has to be dealt with over there, with the Wet’suwet’en. All of this is for them. This is not for Tyendinaga and not for Kahnawake.”

Last week, federal Conservative Leader Andrew Scheer called on police to enforce court orders and end the blockades, and criticized protesters as misguided activists who are damaging the economy and ignoring the wishes of elected First Nations leaders.

Ontario Premier Doug Ford said Sunday evening that he had urged Mr. Trudeau to focus on ending the blockades, calling it a “serious issue of national significance.”


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Trudeau on the blockades: ‘We need to find a solution and we need to find it now’

OTTAWA – Prime Minister Justin Trudeau pleaded for patience Tuesday in the face of ongoing blockades that have brought rail traffic to a grinding halt across the country.

(Patience my ass - Canadians have watched this unfolding crisis with little but as this ineffectual elite PM refused to come back to Canada and now he thinks we need to find a solution. The solution should have been found the minute the first illegal blockade went up.)

Trudeau spoke to the House of Commons Tuesday as rail blockades continue to prevent freight and passenger service in large parts of the country.

“Patience may be in short supply and that makes it more valuable than ever,” he said.

(May be? Get real you goof - patience is turning to anger and that is all the fault of your inability to give a shit about your country while in pursuit of some vainglorious goal of a seat on the UN Security Council.)

Trudeau’s ministers have been meeting with Indigenous leaders in an attempt to end the protests and allow rail traffic to resume. There are several court injunctions calling for the blockades to come to an end, but Trudeau did not outline a plan to have them enforced.

He said the Liberal government is trying to bring a peaceful resolution to the issue.

“Our government has been working on a path forward even as many have said we should give up.”

(Please tell us just who told you we should give up because if anyone did they had their collective heads up their collective asses.)

Trudeau said the protests this week were, in part, the end results of a long strained relationship with Indigenous people and Canadians across the country and would take broader work to resolve.

(The protests and blockades are a direct result of your inability to deal effectively with FN issues.)

“We cannot solve these problems on the margins. That is not the way forward.”

He said he did not want Canada to become a country where politicians order the police into action. He said it was important to resolve the broader issue.

(Canada already is a country that justly deals with such illegal blockades by sending in our RCMP - where the hell have you been?)

“Do we want to become a country of irreconcilable difference where people refuse to talk?”

(Canadian governments have been engaged in talks, consultations and meetings with the Indigenous for decades and little if anything has been solved due to the intransigent positions of some FNs who refuse to understand that the way forward is coming to terms with the benefits provided to their communities from agreements with companies that are more than willing to provide money and jobs for their communities.)

Trudeau asked the Indigenous groups to bring the blockades to an end and to work with the federal government to solve the broader concerns.

(Enough with the 'asking' you TELL them to take down the blockades now you spineless self-serving little twit.)

“Everyone has a stake in getting this right,” he said. “We need to find a solution and we need to find it now.”

Conservative leader Andrew Scheer was quick to denounce the Prime Minister’s comments, calling it the “weakest response to a national crisis.”

Scheer said it is time for the prime minister to act, to be more forceful in bringing the situation to an end.

“Nobody, and I mean nobody, has the right to hold our economy hostage.”

The protests were launched across the country in response to the RCMP’s arrest of protestors in Wet’suwet’en territory in northern British Columbia. The Mounties were enforcing a court injunction to end a protest that was blocking construction of the Coastal Gas natural gas pipeline.

Scheer pointed out that the Wet’suwet’en people broadly supported the project and it was a small group opposing the project.
“Standing between our country and prosperity is a small group of radical activists,” he said.

Scheer said it was the first shot in a continuing fight against resource projects with the Trans Mountain Pipeline and Teck Frontier mine the next targets.

“Will our country be one of the rule of law or one of the rule of the mob?”

( Well Andy, right now it most definitely is mob rule.)

Scheer’s response in the House of Commons came hours after the national chief of the Assembly of First Nations called for calm and constructive dialogue to ease tensions, the Canadian Press reported.

National Chief Perry Bellegarde told reporters in Ottawa that governments and industry have to give the time and space to work with the Wet’suwet’en people.

(Time and space have been given Bellegarde. Your own people are being denied goods and services because neither you nor the other chiefs have the guts to stand up to the illegal mobs on the blockades.)

Bellegarde said he has spoken with all parties involved to find a way forward.

“We say we want to de-escalate and we want dialogue,” he said.

“And I say our people are taking action because they want to see action — and when they see positive action by the key players, when they see a commitment to real dialogue to address this difficult situation, people will respond in a positive way.”

(Some of your people, Percy. I guess all those who disagree with your stance on this issue don't matter, do they.)

Other chiefs speaking alongside Bellegarde on Tuesday morning suggested it may be time to bring the situation to a peaceful conclusion and bring down the blockades.

The longer that Ontario is inconvenienced by this rail stoppage, the worse it gets for the incumbent PM.

It's a win/win all around for all the opposition parties
61% of Canadians oppose Wet’suwet’en solidarity blockades, 75% back action to help Indigenous people: poll


A new poll suggests that while nearly two-thirds of Canadians disagree with the ongoing Wet'suwet'en solidarity blockades that are interrupting rail and truck traffic, three-quarters of Canadians also think the federal government needs to act immediately to address quality of life issues affecting the country's Indigenous people.
On Wednesday, Ipsos published a new poll conducted exclusively for Global News about the demonstrations that revolve around the construction of a natural gas pipeline in northern B.C. and which have gripped the country for weeks.
The survey results show 61 per cent of respondents disagree that the protesters blockading key transportation corridors are conducting justified and legitimate protests, compared to 39 per cent who said that they believe the protests are legitimate and justified.

"It's the first poll that we've ever done on this issue," Ipsos Public Affairs CEO Darrell Bricker told Global News. "The first takeaway is that Canadians are not pleased to see ports and railways blocked.

"In fact, they so don't agree with it that almost half of Canadians -- actually better than half, 53 per cent -- actually think the police should move in and do something about it."...…….More

I wonder how many were polled that were directly affected in Ont. and Que.?
Legault says he is not satisfied with Trudeau's response to blockades


QUEBEC — With travel and trade grinding to a halt and containers piling up in the Port of Montreal, Premier François Legault says he is not satisfied with Prime Minister Justin Trudeau’s handling of the blockade crisis that has paralyzed rail traffic in the country.
“The situation keeps getting worse,” Legault said, arriving for question period at the legislature. “There is going to have to be action in the coming hours, in the coming days.
“He (Trudeau) wants things to be done peacefully. We agree with this, but there have to be results and, for the moment, the situation has become very dramatic for the Quebec economy.”
Legault made the comments Tuesday shortly after Trudeau addressed the House of Commons saying he still hopes for a peaceful settlement. Trudeau has been criticized for being out of the country for part of the crisis and not taking a harder line now that he’s back.
Legault’s impatience with a situation he can’t control is starting to show and he has examples of where the situation is eroding. He said the Port of Montreal is already overflowing with goods and running out of storage space for more containers.
He does not want the port to have to start turning away ships.
“We are in the process of losing control,” Legault said. “I don’t want to once again fall into the propane crisis with farmers , I don’t want to be in a situation where planes can’t take off because of a lack of jet fuel.”
Legault was cautious about whether blockades should be taken down by sending in the police, noting he lived through the Oka crisis that rocked the country.
“We don’t want that to happen again, but at the same time we can’t hold the Quebec and Ontario economies hostage,” Legault said. “People are telling me starting tomorrow things are going to become very difficult.
“There are stores which will soon no longer be able to supply food. Everything is blocked now including production in many fields.”
Legault’s ministers in charge of transport and the economy have also started to prepare contingency plans for further disruptions affecting the province as a result of the blockades, which have scuttled hundreds of passenger trains and cargo shipments.
The Mohawk blockades affecting Quebec began as an act of solidarity with the Wet’suwet’en hereditary chiefs trying to block the construction of a pipeline in British Columbia.
“I think we have a few more days, but I am concerned,” said Economic Development Minister Pierre Fitzgibbon. “Companies are calling us saying they are stopping production. We have to be aware. Within a week, it (the crisis) has to be resolved.”
“We have to continue speaking,” said Transport Minister François Bonnardel. “We have to understand their situation as well. But this can’t last forever. Our economy is in difficulty, so we hope the federal government finds a solution.”
Quebec’s opposition parties are watching carefully, prodding the government to prepare for the worst.
Liberal finance critic Carlos Leitão called on the Coalition Avenir Québec government to immediately create a ministerial committee that can rapidly put in place loan guarantees to help businesses get through the coming weeks as was done during the aluminum and softwood lumber crisis.
Pascal Bérubé, the interim leader of the Parti Québécois, said he was fed up with the lack of leadership on the crisis in Ottawa.
“Nobody’s moving,” Bérubé told reporters. “Everyone is scared and during this time the victim is our economy.”
There were calls, however, for everyone to show patience.
After five chiefs in Ottawa called for calm Tuesday during the impasse, Québec solidaire co-spokesperson Manon Massé said the reason Indigenous nations are acting now is because nobody has been listening to them.
Later, Québec solidaire tabled a motion in the legislature calling for a peaceful resolution to the impasse. The motion states the National Assembly adheres to the United Nations declaration on the rights of Indigenous Peoples.
The motion invited the governments of Quebec and Canada to negotiate with the Indigenous communities on a nation to nation basis and to respect the principles of self-determination of Indigenous Peoples.
The motion was adopted unanimously.

Protest busting should be coming shortly, Quebec has spoken
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Legault says he is not satisfied with Trudeau's response to blockades

Protest busting should be coming shortly, Quebec has spoken

Uh Oh!

Tater tot is getting in the bad books of Que AND Ont.

Not good
Trudeau says government working 'extremely hard' to end rail blockade as premiers demand action


Prime Minister Justin Trudeau said Wednesday his government is working hard to resolve a two-week long Indigenous blockade that has led to hundreds of layoffs at CN Rail and disrupted the flow of essential goods.
Speaking to reporters before a Liberal caucus meeting on Parliament Hill, Trudeau said he's concerned about the disruptions to the economy.
"We're working extremely hard to resolve this situation," he said. "We know that people are facing shortages, are facing disruptions, they're facing layoffs. That's unacceptable."
CN Rail said Tuesday it has issued 450 temporary pink slips to employees so far, as the railway's eastern Canadian operations remain shuttered. Hundreds more could follow if the protests continue.
A spokesperson for Unifor, the union that represents employees at Via Rail, said 875 workers received layoff notices Thursday because much of the passenger rail network is shut down.
"This general interruption is an unprecedented situation in our history. In 42 years of existence, it is the first time that Via Rail, a public intercity passenger rail service, has to interrupt most of its services across the country," said Cynthia Garneau, president and CEO of Via.
"At this point, we believe we have made the fairest and most reasonable decision with the proposed temporary suspension plan," Garneau said of the layoffs.
Beyond the job losses, the chemicals industry has warned of impending shortages of propane for home heating, chlorine for municipal water and de-icing fluid for airports.
Speaking to reporters at the National Assembly today, Quebec Premier François Legault said Ottawa needs to set a deadline for an end to the blockades.
"Mr. Trudeau has to put a deadline in the next few days — not the in the next few weeks — because right now we have jobs at [risk]," Legault said.
"It's illegal, this blockade. The Canadian economy is suffering and we have to listen to Canadians. Yes, we have to respect Indigenous people, listen to them, but we also need to listen to Canadians, to Quebecers."
Federal Public Safety Minister Bill Blair rejected that request Wednesday, saying he is "reluctant to put a timeline to something. I find that's not a very effective means of negotiation."
The Quebec premier said Ottawa should not rule out deploying police to move the protesters off the tracks, but added such a move should be done "in co-ordination with every province."
Ottawa has been reluctant to use police to enforce a court injunction because it fears a repeat of the Ipperwash standoff or the Oka crisis.
Trudeau has said his government is committed to using "dialogue" instead of force to remove the Indigenous protesters who have shut down CN Rail in Eastern Canada and much of Via Rail's services nationwide by blocking a key artery in southern Ontario.
Saskatchewan Premier Scott Moe, the current chair of the Council of the Federation, is convening a conference call with the country's premiers today. He said that, given the "lack of federal leadership in addressing this ongoing illegal activity," it's time for Canada's premiers to step up.
The protesters from the Tyendinaga Mohawk Territory behind the blockade outside Belleville, Ont. say they are acting in solidarity with some of the Wet'suwet'en hereditary chiefs in B.C., who oppose the Coastal GasLink pipeline project running through their traditional territory.
The Mohawk activists have said they won't end their blockade until the RCMP leaves the traditional territory of the Wet'suwet'en in northern B.C. Last week, RCMP arrested protesters there who had been blocking an access road to the natural gas pipeline construction site.
A new blockade was erected by a group called "Cuzzins for Wet'suwet'en" on Wednesday morning, blocking trains on a CN Rail line near Edmonton. The 20 demonstrators said they were also staging the protest "in solidarity with the Wet'suwet'en."
Demonstrators put up a large tarp-covered barricade with wooden pallets covered with spray-painted banners reading "No consent" and "Reconciliation is dead."
Conservative House Leader Candice Bergen tabled a number of motions in the Commons Tuesday — including a motion of non-confidence which, if adopted, could bring down the government and trigger an election.
While the likelihood of such a motion passing at this point is slim, Bergen said it's intended to send a signal to the Liberal government that the Official Opposition is "extremely frustrated" by the rail "crisis."
"We see the response of the Liberals as being very weak. How can this happen in Canada? We are a country of law and order and rules. People are frustrated and they want to know what the government is going to do," she said.
During an emergency debate in the Commons late Tuesday, Indigenous Services Minister Marc Miller said there is a clear "path forward" to defuse the ongoing tensions caused by protests that have hamstrung the country's transportation network — despite some Wet'suwet'en hereditary chiefs refusing to meet with federal officials until after the RCMP leave their territory.
"I know that the recent events in B.C. and in various places across the country are deeply concerning to all Canadians. It is a very difficult situation for everyone, for those people who are non-Indigenous, but especially if they are Indigenous," Miller said.
"All of Canada is hurting and we are all hoping and working for a peaceful resolution."
Conservative Leader Andrew Scheer said Trudeau's call for more talks with the protesters has emboldened "radical activists" bent on holding the Canadian economy hostage.
Scheer said Tuesday the prime minister's reluctance to use the police to stop the illegal blockades was akin to appeasement, a stance that privileges activists over "hard-working Canadians" and Indigenous people who support development.

Only CBC can defend Trudeau while defending the blockades, if no one is in the wrong then who is in the right?
Small business owners demand an end to rail blockades, warn of consequences


MONTREAL — The Canadian Federation of Independent Business has sent a letter to Prime Minister Justin Trudeau warning of dire consequences if blockades that have disrupted rail service across the country continue.
CFIB head Dan Kelly is calling on Ottawa to work with the provinces and law enforcement to get trains back on the tracks as protests in support of Wet'suwet'en hereditary chiefs who oppose a natural gas pipeline in British Columbia enter their 14th day.

The organization, which represents 110,000 small and medium businesses, says agriculture and natural resources are most affected, but that retailers and wholesalers are increasingly feeling the pinch — and have fewer financial resources to weather extended disruptions than large companies.
RBC economist Nathan Janzen says the blockades, which have shut down one-quarter of Canadian National Railway Co.'s network and clogged its system from coast to coast, are clouding the economic outlook for Canadian manufacturing. Canadian Manufacturers and Exporters CEO Dennis Darby says the crisis is stranding an estimated $425 million in goods every day, while CN has temporarily laid off 450 workers.

The call from the CFIB comes amid mounting criticism of the Liberal government from Conservative MPs and provincial premiers, with some demanding Trudeau denounce the blockades and articulate a plan to end the them.
Via Rail's Montreal-Toronto and Ottawa-Toronto routes remain closed due to a blockade east of Belleville, Ont., halting passenger trains.

'Set a deadline' to dismantle rail blockades, Legault tells Trudeau


QUEBEC — No longer excluding the use of police force, Premier François Legault has called on Prime Minister Justin Trudeau to set a deadline for the dismantling of barricades crippling rail traffic in Canada.
Blockade organizers across Canada have said they’re acting in solidarity with those opposed to the Coastal GasLink pipeline project that crosses the traditional territory of the Wet’suwet’en First Nation near Houston, B.C.
Upping the pressure another notch , Legault said he will ask the rest of Canada’s premiers Wednesday to sign on to his idea of setting a deadline for negotiations to end, the blockades come down and, if necessary, examine the idea of launching coordinated police action so all the blockades are removed across Canada at the same time.
He said steps have to be taken “within days, not weeks,” and stressed the blockades are illegal , leaving the state of the economy in a precarious position.

“Mr. Trudeau has to set a deadline,” Legault said, arriving for question period at the legislature. “The Canadian economy is suffering and we have to listen to Canadians.
“Yes, we have to respect Indigenous people, listen to them, but we also need to listen to Canadians , to Quebecers.
“I am asking for leadership. I am asking for a deadline. So far he did not do so. We are now in this mess for two weeks so it’s time we set a deadline.”
He confirmed the government has been in touch with the Sûreté du Québec to prepare the necessary plans for some kind of action. He did not elaborate.
“We cannot exclude using police, but it has to be in coordination with every province at the same time. We have had a discussion with the SQ.”

Are the Provinces going to solve this for the Feds. not a good look for PMJT if the provinces act independently from Ottawa on a Fed. issue.
'Never hear our voices': Pipeline opponents block CN rail line in west Edmonton
A car and some wooden pallets can be seen on the rail line with signs that read "no consent" and "no pipelines on stolen land."

MOIRA WYTON & TREVOR ROBB Updated: February 19, 2020

An Indigenous-led coalition of Coastal GasLink pipeline opponents set up a blockade on a west Edmonton CN rail line near 231 Street Wednesday morning.

The blockade joins another in Ontario erected on Feb. 6 in support of the Wet’suwet’en hereditary chiefs who oppose the pipeline’s route through their territory. Coastal GasLink has signed agreements with all 20 elected First Nations chiefs along the pipeline’s route.

Protesters arrived at 3:30 a.m., setting up the blockade at 4 a.m.

A car and some wooden pallets are on the rail line with signs that read “no consent” and “no pipelines on stolen land.

“It’s on the CN tracks at 231 Street but they’re not blocking the road,” said city police Staff Sgt. Barry Maron. “We’re working with CN police and trying to come up with a plan.”

A demonstrator who identified himself only as Poundmaker from Treaty Six territory said the group arrived Wednesday to “be in solidarity with the Wet’suwet’en territory.”

“We’ve had those rallies, we’ve tried to have those constructive conversations with our leaders — whether they’re in the legislature or even on our own reserves — they never hear our voices and when they do they just act like they don’t,” said Poundmaker of the choice to have a blockade on CN property.

Poundmaker says the only thing that will break the blockade is RCMP and Coastal GasLink removal from Wet’suwet’en territory.

“As soon as that happens we’re out of here, too,” he said of the approximately 30 opponents at the blockade.

The 17 Chiefs of the Confederacy of Treaty Six First Nations called on RCMP to withdraw from Wet’suwet’en territory and for the peaceful resolution of the conflict.

“The Chiefs of the Confederacy of Treaty Six First Nations stand in solidarity with Indigenous Sovereign Nations that uphold traditional governance systems that pre-date the Indian Act,” said Grand Chief Billy Morin in a Wednesday news release.

“This is the principal of self-determination as stated in Articles 3 and 4 of the United Nations Declaration on the Rights of Indigenous Peoples.”

Alberta Justice Minister Doug Schweitzer responded to the blockade on social media saying Albertans “will not be economic hostages to law-breaking extremists.”

“The blocking of economically critical infrastructure such as rail lines is an offence and will not be tolerated,” Schweitzer wrote. “We will continue to monitor the situation and work with all relevant stakeholders to ensure the law is upheld and that rail service is maintained.”

Speaking at a hospital expansion announcement in Calgary, Alberta Premier Jason Kenney called the Edmonton rail blockade illegal and said it was not in solidarity with the elected band councils in Wet’suwet’en who were consulted on the project.

“We need to be able to work together constructively,” said Kenney. “Reconciliation doesn’t mean allowing a couple of people to shut down the national economy.”

A request for an emergency injunction by CN lawyers will be heard in the Alberta Court of Queen’s Bench in Edmonton at 1 p.m. on Wednesday.

Another spokesperson who identified herself as “V” said that the wave of demonstrations across Canada are aiming to show Canadians that inconvenient does not mean illegal.

“People don’t understand that Indigenous title and sovereignty and governance is law (and) Canada is violating it’s own laws,” said V. “People need to reconcile with that and with the fact that these are legitimate laws.”

“Invading Indigenous territory is not reconciliation.”

CN service east of Toronto has been suspended due to the blockades and VIA rail service has been disrupted across Canada.

— With files from David Bloom
This could get violent. The idiot protesters are now deep in oil country, and even more interesting, on the city limits of Edmonton. I can see this getting violent within a few days, if the Police and Government do not do their jobs.
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I wonder why a Battleford boy is causing trouble in Edmonton?
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“People don’t understand that Indigenous title and sovereignty and governance is law (and) Canada is violating it’s own laws,” said V. “People need to reconcile with that and with the fact that these are legitimate laws.”

“Invading Indigenous territory is not reconciliation.”

Blockading rail lines and trying to starve people or leave them freezing is not reconciliation. Long past time Canada started getting some reconciliation of its own as it appears that some FNs have no idea that it works both ways. As for the ignorant comment about 'invading Indigenous territory - V hasn't a leg to stand on. Coastal GasLink has signed agreements with the Wet'suwet'en band council. The RCMP had no recourse but to carry out a legitimate court injunction. The laws in Canada apply equally to all it's citizens. Best you stay on the right side of them, V.
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I wonder why a Battleford boy is causing trouble in Edmonton?

Because he has nothing better to do then cause trouble?
Tensions have already arisen in Edmonton. I am not sure how to embed tweets, so I will leave this link up:
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Why doesn't Alberta send a couple dozen oil field workers to that railway blockade?
I'm sure they would enjoy the exercise!

This is why, they won't arrest the protestors but remove their blockade, and YOU will be arrested.
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Tensions have already arisen in Edmonton. I am not sure how to embed tweets, so I will leave this link up:

Looks like the local oilfiels workers overran the protesters, and tossed their barricades in the garbage. These fools should take note of where they are. Alberta is not down with these idiot protesters.
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The blockade is officially over. Once the oil workers showed up and dismantled the barricades, the protesters (who seems to be a few young students) cowered in fear.
Cory Morgan

For folks wondering why cops didn't intervene when those brilliant counterprotesters tore down the illegal rail blockade in Edmonton,

keep in mind that protesters have been telling police to go **** themselves for weeks.

Why should cops protect their barricades?
Blockade on CN rail line in Edmonton removed, injunction granted
The Canadian Press
FEBRUARY 19, 2020 07:56 AM

EDMONTON — A blockade set up on a Canadian National rail line on the western edge of Edmonton in support of Wet'suwet'en hereditary chiefs was being dismantled — at least temporarily — Wednesday after a handful of counter-protesters showed up.

About 20 people called Cuzzins for Wet'suwet'en had set up barriers earlier in the day in solidarity with the chiefs who oppose a natural gas pipeline through their traditional land in British Columbia.

The blockade consisted of wooden pallets on the tracks and signs that say "No Consent" and "No Pipelines on Stolen Land."

One of the organizers, who called himself Poundmaker to protect his safety, said they had planned to maintain the blockade until Prime Minister Justin Trudeau intervened and the RCMP left Wet’suwet’en territory in B.C.

"It's as simple as that. With those two removals, all of this comes down," he said.

Conflicts with counter-protesters at the site, however, led Poundmaker and the others to abandon the blockade. They said they wanted to keep it peaceful.

A handful of counter-protesters had turned up at the small camp about noon. One man tried to dismantle a sign and removed a barrel at the site.

"This is the violence. See this is the violence," said a protester, who had his face covered.

"This is not violence. I am just trying to remove some garbage," the counter-protester responded.

Guy Simpson, an oilfield worker from Leduc, Alta, said he decided to show up at the blockade after seeing it on social media.

"One blockade at a time. I'll clean it up," he said.

Simpson and other counter-protesters removed the wooden pallets and other materials that were on the tracks.

CN said in a statement earlier Wednesday that CN police and local police had responded to the blockade and that the company would be taking legal action.

"Train movements are currently stopped," said the statement.

Alberta Justice Minister Doug Schweitzer said blocking economically critical infrastructure such as rail lines is an offence and would not be tolerated.

"It is my understanding that CN rail is seeking an emergency injunction ... which the government of Alberta fully supports," he said on Twitter.

On Wednesday afternoon, an Edmonton judge granted CN a 30-day injunction applying to all rail lines in Alberta. CN lawyers had argued that the company has nothing to do with the dispute and is being hurt economically by the blockades.

Premier Jason Kenney, who has been critical of the blockades popping up across the country, said he expected police to respect and enforce court orders.

He planned to be on an afternoon conference call with all of Canada's premiers about the blockades.

"These illegal blockades — there is people losing their jobs, blue-collar people, vulnerable people," he said in Calgary.

"What is happening here is anarchy."

The Central GasLink pipeline the hereditary chiefs oppose has already received approval from elected band councils.

Protests began after the RCMP moved in to enforce an injunction to keep hereditary chiefs and their supporters away from pipeline worksites. Blockades by Indigenous people and supporters have shut down a good part of CN's rail network, suspended most Via Rail passenger service, and temporarily blocked traffic on streets and bridges and at ports in multiple cities.

The Confederacy of Treaty Six First Nations, which represents 16 First Nations across Alberta, said in a statement that it supports the hereditary chiefs.

"We call upon law enforcement officials to ensure safety of peaceful land protectors and the railway workers," said Grand Chief William Morin.

He urged the RCMP to leave Wet'suwet'en territory and asked that Prime Minister Justin Trudeau and B.C. Premier John Horgan meet with the Wet'suwet'en "to resolve this in a peaceful manner for all Indigenous Peoples and Canadians."

In Ottawa, Trudeau said his government is trying to find a resolution. But he also acknowledged the economic impact that the rail blockades are having across the country.

"We know that people are facing shortages. They're facing disruptions. They're facing layoffs. That's unacceptable," he said. "That's why we're going to continue working extremely hard with everyone involved to resolve the situation as quickly as possible."

This report by The Canadian Press was first published Feb. 19, 2020

— With files from Bill Graveland in Calgary and Dean Bennett in Edmonton
Protestor: "Sir, you're violating my safe space right now"

Guy in Work Vest: "I'm standing on a train am I violating your safe space?"

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Protestor: "Sir, you're violating my safe space right now"
Guy in Work Vest: "I'm standing on a train am I violating your safe space?"

That fella has great restraint, "sir you can go back..." I would have decked that fukker right then ..

You can go to the Hospital ya wimpy little faggot, and rip his mask off too.

Fukking little cowards won't even show their face, they don't have the balls of a man. Must be Hoid. Just beat that thing like a red headed stepchild...
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BREAKING: Quebec train derailment may have been intentional: source

Roberto Wakerell-Cruz, 1 min ago 1 min read

CN Railway is investigating after a train derailment in Sainte-Marie-Salome in Quebec.

The derailment happened at roughly 12:45 am Wednesday night. Sainte-Marie Salome is roughly an hour north of Montreal, Quebec.

“Two cars derailed and there’s no danger for the public, no injuries, no fire and no dangerous goods are involved,” CN senior manager of public affairs Olivier Quenneville told CTV News.

A source reportedly told CTV News that they believe something was purposely put onto the tracks to derail the train. A CN spokesperson did not confirm whether or not that is true.

“The incident is still under investigation and we will not comment further,” said Quenneville.

CN is currently investigating the situation with a team on the ground.

This story will be updated.



If protesters start sabotaging rail lines, they should be charged with terrorism. And yet Trudeau still takes no action...
Ron in Regina
Quote: Originally Posted by Twin_Moose View Post

I wonder why a Battleford boy is causing trouble in Edmonton?

Dude is going by the name “Poundmaker” & not his surname is Poundmaker. I see where the confusion would be.....
Quote: Originally Posted by Girth View Post

Tensions have already arisen in Edmonton. I am not sure how to embed tweets, so I will leave this link up:

Good for you ladies. When one has the courage of their convictions there is no need to hide behind masks and mufflers.
Muffler.... there is a term I haven heard in 45 years.
The beginning of the end...

Andrew Scheer and the Conservative Party are going after the federal government, tabling a non-confidence motion in response to how Ottawa has dealt with ongoing protests and blockades across the country, and how the prime minister seems to be in no rush to solve the issue.

More to come.