It's Climate Change I tell'ya!! IT'S CLIMATE CHANGE!!


taxslave
#1351
Quote: Originally Posted by petros View Post

Ooooo 5C warmer than our December average of -7.
Ill gladly take -7C in the sunshine and forego the meter of rain in a month.
Did you buy into another myth that it was super cold here?

Anything minus is super cold.
 
Twin_Moose
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#1352
You would think that since science and the church of climatology say we can turn back time on climate change to pre 2005, we should be able to pick the climate best for our area and hold it there no?
 
petros
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#1353
Quote: Originally Posted by taxslave View Post

Anything minus is super cold.

Is it?
 
petros
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#1354
Quote: Originally Posted by Twin_Moose View Post

You would think that since science and the church of climatology say we can turn back time on climate change to pre 2005, we should be able to pick the climate best for our area and hold it there no?

Did you notice rain on the Jewish holidays hit like clockwork?
 
taxslave
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#1355
Quote: Originally Posted by petros View Post

Is it?

When whatever falls out of the sky is semisolid instead of liquid it is too cold.
 
petros
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#1356
You've never learned how to exploit it.

For me the 2 worst winters of my life were on the coast and not out here or the Arctic.

95/96 and 16/17 were horrid. How did you manage?
 
Girth
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#1357
2013-14 was cold. I went back to Winnipeg for Christmas, and the Wind Chill was -60 C.

One advantage of global warming is the Northwest Passage may open, and allow thousands of ships to pass through Canada, and save time and money rather than the Panama Canal.
 
pgs
#1358
Quote: Originally Posted by Girth View Post

2013-14 was cold. I went back to Winnipeg for Christmas, and the Wind Chill was -60 C.

One advantage of global warming is the Northwest Passage may open, and allow thousands of ships to pass through Canada, and save time and money rather than the Panama Canal.

Never happen in your lifetime .
 
taxslave
#1359
Quote: Originally Posted by petros View Post

You've never learned how to exploit it.
For me the 2 worst winters of my life were on the coast and not out here or the Arctic.
95/96 and 16/17 were horrid. How did you manage?

It hardly ever snowed. Rain is no problem. Preferably warm rain but at least if it is raining it is above 0. I would truly like to retire to someplace where they don't have a word for snow in their vocabulary.
 
taxslave
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#1360
Quote: Originally Posted by pgs View Post

Never happen in your lifetime .

So my Arctic resort properties are worthless?
 
pgs
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#1361
Quote: Originally Posted by taxslave View Post

So my Arctic resort properties are worthless?

You can entertain Japanese tourists looking to see the northern lights .
 
taxslave
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#1362
Quote: Originally Posted by pgs View Post

You can entertain Japanese tourists looking to see the northern lights .

Will there still be Northern Lights in an ice free Arctic?
 
pgs
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#1363
Quote: Originally Posted by taxslave View Post

Will there still be Northern Lights in an ice free Arctic?

Will there ever be an ice free arctic ?
 
petros
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#1364
Quote: Originally Posted by taxslave View Post

It hardly ever snowed. Rain is no problem. Preferably warm rain but at least if it is raining it is above 0. I would truly like to retire to someplace where they don't have a word for snow in their vocabulary.

Hardly snowed winter 16/17?

https://vancouverisland.ctvnews.ca/m...bers-1.3279029

You had 27cm. A record.

At Comox airport, snowfall records were broken both February 8 and 9, while Nanaimo broke a snowfall record on February 8 alone. At Campbell River, the previous snowfall record on February 8 set in 2001 was smashed by more than 10 cm! Looks like February 9 will also break a record, but we’ll know for sure by the end of the day. At Powell River, February 8 snowfall was a record breaker, too.

February 2017 will go down as one of the snowiest on record in Victoria. A total of 32.8 cm has been measured at the YYJ weather station. That makes 2017 the 3rd snowiest February since 1978!
 
taxslave
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#1365
Quote: Originally Posted by petros View Post

Hardly snowed winter 16/17?
https://vancouverisland.ctvnews.ca/m...bers-1.3279029
You had 27cm. A record.
At Comox airport, snowfall records were broken both February 8 and 9, while Nanaimo broke a snowfall record on February 8 alone. At Campbell River, the previous snowfall record on February 8 set in 2001 was smashed by more than 10 cm! Looks like February 9 will also break a record, but we’ll know for sure by the end of the day. At Powell River, February 8 snowfall was a record breaker, too.
February 2017 will go down as one of the snowiest on record in Victoria. A total of 32.8 cm has been measured at the YYJ weather station. That makes 2017 the 3rd snowiest February since 1978!

That was a horrid time. Fortunately I was at work for most of it. Much of the reason I hate snow, it is so hard to work in. Spent about a month of it teaching mechanics how to make and put chains on rock trucks properly.
 
spilledthebeer
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#1366
Quote: Originally Posted by taxslave View Post

That was a horrid time. Fortunately I was at work for most of it. Much of the reason I hate snow, it is so hard to work in. Spent about a month of it teaching mechanics how to make and put chains on rock trucks properly.

Here is an article illustrating just how little control LIE-berals really have over our climate - along with some facts that prove LIE-berals are using alleged global warming as an excuse for selfish and radical and greedy political action! With some comments of my own in brackets):

The LIE-beral carbon conundrum!
Yes, Emissions Have Fallen. That Won’t Fix Climate Change
The drop in carbon pollution will cool the planet only a tiny bit. So how about this: Revive the economy and the Earth by pouring money into green tech.

(Here is a BETTER IDEA: We know that airplanes - whether hauling people or cargo, are responsible for 75% OF ALL POLLUTION - related to transportation! That means 75% of all the pollution created by trains, buses, ships, trucks and cars - PLUS the crap airplanes spew! WE KNOW that trains can move people in a much more environmentally sound way than planes - so why not use govt powers to suppress planes and support trains?)

(Of course WE KNOW that Cdn LIE-berals will NEVER support such anti plane activities since their civil service union HOG supporters INSIST on convenience for their holidays - and trains are SLOWER than planes and thus NOT ACCEPTABLE to always entitled HOGS!)

To quantify the change in emissions during shelter-in-place, the researchers looked at Google’s and Apple’s anonymized mobility data from cell phones.

It’s been one of the few slivers of hope as we’ve trudged through the Covid-19 catastrophe: As industries shuttered and we all sheltered in place, we’ve stopped spewing so much planet-warming gas. One analysis by the climate group Carbon Brief in April calculated that emissions could fall by 5.5 percent this year. That seems like a tiny tally until you consider that until 2020, emissions had been steadily ticking up year after year, and that the 2008 economic collapse brought about only a 3 percent reduction.

(Air travel is currently at 15% of its pre Pandemic levels - thus since planes produce 75% of all pollution related to travel - we have enjoyed a MASSIVE reduction in global emissions! But such facts do not suit LIE-beral political needs! LIE-berals have repeatedly demanded that we give up our cars and use public transit - in spite of the fact our transit is ALREADY OVER LOADED at peak times - and suffers from frequent mechanical issues that are the result of limited maintenance budgets as pay raises for HOGS take priority over fixing things!)

(LIE-berals want us to use transit - without the bother of building more to improve efficiency or even of properly maintaining what we have! A recent report by Toronto Transit Commission noted that a partial train derailment on the Bloor line was caused by the total failure of TTC repair crews to replace certain brake controls - in spite of a two year old work order specifying THE NEED!)

(The recent news article that supplied that information noted that the TTC spokes person assured us that the broken control arm has been replaced - but could not say when the work might have been done! Have they even misplaced their documents for COMPLETED work orders at TTC?)

I am here to snatch that sliver of hope away from you—and potentially replace it with a new sliver of hope. Writing today in the journal Nature Climate Change, an international team of scientists calculates that the coronavirus lockdown may only cool the planet by about 0.01 degree Celsius by the year 2030. (The rough math is that 1 degree Celsius equals 1.8 degrees Fahrenheit.) But. They also argue that if humanity would aggressively fund renewables in the aftermath of the pandemic, we could avoid an overall increase of 0.3 degrees by 2050—that’s 0.6 degrees Fahrenheit. That could keep the planet within 1.5 degrees Celsius (2.7 degrees Fahrenheit) of warming from pre-industrial levels, the goal set out in the Paris Climate Agreement.

(Why is it that SO MANY LIE-beral policies involve DECEIT? Recent news articles have noted the unwillingness of LIE-berals to admit that the cost of wind power generators has been GROSSLY UNDER ESTIMATED! Firstly - wind generators usually DO NOT operate as often in a day as had been planned or expected - thus power output is lower than expected and profit is reduced!)

(Even worse - the life span of wind generators has been GREATLY OVER ESTIMATED! Wind generators may end up getting only about ONE THIRD of the service life that was planned for - and numerous biz models used by LIE-berals and their HOG allies to justify our costly foray into wind power - were based on these quite probably fudged numbers!)

(Even worse - LIE-berals DID NOT fully cost the carbon foot print of building, installing and operating wind generators! For example - in colder climates - ICE BUILDS UP ON the wind blades - thus requiring FOSSIL FUELED helicopters to fly out and spray de-icing fluid on the blades! LIE-berals appear to have over looked this carbon based NEED when counting wind powered benefits! And of course the de-icing compounds aint something you should DRINK!)

(How bad can ice build up get on a wind blade? In summer 2019, a state of the art - three year old wind generator installed near Pontypool Ontari-owe - caught fire and burned and was destroyed! NO PUBLIC COMMENT has been made on why the privately owned tower suffered a catastrophic failure! However IT IS KNOWN that the Pontypool area is in a heavy snow belt area and is also known for its strong winds! Should we guess the tower was not de-iced as often as needed and that the weight of ice unbalanced the blades and destroyed the unit? Such a guess is not unreasonable!)

(Even worse - the cost of dismantling a no longer needed old wind tower is very HIGH - and LIE-beral have NOT properly planned for the eventual dismantling!
Govt had put in place some specifications requiring wind tower owners to pay into a fund specifically for dismantling the towers - and now with inflation costs - the fund looks COMPLETELY INADEQUATE to the full task! The fund shrinks even further when it is realized that most wind towers will only serve for a FRACTION of their planned service life - thus mandating more rapid dismantling - using already limited funds even faster than expected!)

(In addition - wind tower blades are made with a mix of resin, carbon fibre or fibreglass over a wood core - with the core supplying some strength and also preventing condensation inside the blades! Such a blade CANNOT be recycled and worn out blades are piling up already in our land fills!)

To quantify the change in emissions during shelter-in-place, the researchers looked at Google’s and Apple’s anonymized mobility data from cell phones. As a proxy for human activity, these figures showed how the emissions of greenhouse gases like CO2 and NOx (aka nitrogen oxides, which trail from cars) from 123 countries changed between February and June, 2020. The team found that traffic patterns would indicate that these and other gases fell somewhere between 10 and 30 percent globally as civilization locked down.

(LIE-berals are adamantly OPPOSED to ordinary people driving cars under any circumstances - LIE-berals prefer to use THEIR GRAVY for things other than paving roads and plowing snow! LIE-berals NEED TO BUY VOTES from civil service union HOGS and from various radical groups such as Antifa and Black Lives Matter and Idle No More - thus silly tasks like filling pot holes and regulating speeders is NOT something LIE-berals want to bother with! For one thing speeders are often arrogant enough to threaten not to vote LIE-beral if they get too many tickets - thus enforcing road rules is politically UNPOPULAR!)

(LIE-beral policy for several decades has been to cram as many people as possible into the smallest possible spaces - for the sake of saving LIE-beral gravy -regardless of how WE PREFER to live! LIE-beral policy is so socially convoluted that they are forcing us to accept unsupervised and un-regulated drug addicts and lunatics and criminals AS NEIGHBOURS in the “homeless shelters” they are forcing into our neighbourhoods!)

The world is getting warmer, the weather is getting worse. Here's everything you need to know about what humans can do to stop wrecking the planet.

(As always - LIE-beral policy involves evasion of truth! The current largest wildfire burning in California in late summer 2020, was started by idiots playing with fireworks while celebrating the impending birth of a new mother! LIE-berals also IGNORE the multiple fires that have been started by faulty electrical equipment in California! LIE-berals refuse to talk about the California “Camp Fire” - that was started by - A CAMP FIRE - ignited by careless idiots! LIE-berals also like to point to the wild fires that ravaged Australia in 2019 - BUT DO NOT wish to discuss the MULTIPLE ARRESTS of the arsonists who started those fires!)

(Yes - the most devastating fires in Australian history were started by unemployed volunteer fire men looking for govt gravy - though one Oz fire was ignited by a cranky hermit who simply wanted to drive away tourists - too bad he also burned himself out!)

(Even worse - a recent news article out of California mentions a woman taking a prowler hostage with her pistol as the woman had become convinced he was an aspiring arsonist! Should we ask if SOME of the same people who are rioting and looting stores and burning buildings in support of Antifa and Black Lives Matter have decided that their version of social justice can be promoted by burning out their more wealthy neighbours and home owners? Sure sounds that way!)
 
taxslave
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#1367
Explain how you get across the ocean in a train. Or get anywhere in a timely manner. Planes are pretty much essential. So are freighters. Cruise ships OTH can be done away with with no inconvenience to anyone.
 
pgs
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#1368
Quote: Originally Posted by taxslave View Post

Explain how you get across the ocean in a train. Or get anywhere in a timely manner. Planes are pretty much essential. So are freighters. Cruise ships OTH can be done away with with no inconvenience to anyone.

Unless you work in the tourist trade . They bring lots of dollars wherever they go .
 
spilledthebeer
#1369
Quote: Originally Posted by taxslave View Post

Explain how you get across the ocean in a train. Or get anywhere in a timely manner. Planes are pretty much essential. So are freighters. Cruise ships OTH can be done away with with no inconvenience to anyone.




And HOW OFTEN does anybody NEED to cross an ocean? And HOW OFTEN does anybody NEED to fly to Florida?
AND HOW OFTEN do we NEED to ship GARBAGE to or from China?
LIE-berals tell us we MUST REDUCE Our use of fossil fuel and then they encourage their civil service union HOG allies to maintain or even EXPAND their carbon footprint while the rest of us freeze in the dark!



This is the GREAT ISSUE that LIE-berals DO NOT ADDRESS!


Here is a powerful article illustrating the essential madness at the heart of all LIE-beral policy! With some comments of my own in brackets):

No visitors to your house but granny can fly in from overseas?

By Brian Lilley, Toronto Sun, Publishing date: Oct 03, 2020 • Last Updated 13 hours ago.

Is it any wonder the public is confused by the competing messaging coming from various levels of government?

(The hard fact is that our federal LIE-beral govt has goals and needs radically different than the goals of provincial premiers such as Ford and Legault! In the first four months after Our idiot Boy Justin ordered our borders closed to travellers - a total of 4.4 MILLION PEOPLE entered Canada - mostly on filthy disease riddled airplanes - according to recently released govt documents!)

(Those 4.4 million travellers represents a very LOW number compared to normal travel activity - but we need to recall that many of those who are travelling are doing so for medically DANGEROUS reasons! For instance - some are Cdns returning home from Virus hot spots because they know Canada is medically safer than many other countries such as Italy and China and Iran! And we KNOW that some Wuhan Virus infected travellers can infect others without showing any symptoms of their own - thus some Wuhan infected are being allowed in WITHOUT any govt oversight or real effort at quarantine!)

(And we also KNOW - from govt reports that some people returning to Canada have DELIBERATELY HIDDEN symptoms for fear of being denied entry! We also KNOW - thanks to comments by Ford govt - that federal LIE-berals are asleep on the job - they have LOST TRACK OF and are failing to monitor some hundreds of infected travellers who are now wandering loose in Canada!)

(We KNOW that MANY of those most recently infected have been present at large gatherings such as wedding and funerals and other such religious ceremonies - where social distancing and wearing of masks has been scorned by attendees - thus people who have travelled far and have waltzed through our porous border blockades are now becoming key spreaders of Wuhan Virus while enjoying themselves at LARGE family gatherings!)

(At the same time that provincial and municipal leaders are seeking to restore restrictions on the daily activities of Cdn citizens in order to head off a new wave of Wuhan infections - Our idiot Boy and his loser LIE-berals are so DESPERATE to buy votes that they have partly RE-OPENED the borders so that families can be more easily “re-unified”!)

(Even worse - LIE-berals have EASED THE RESTRICTIONS for quarantine orders for such travellers! LIE-berals are so desperate to BUY votes from immigrants that they have waived the for 14 day quarantine requirement for some travellers - apparently because the cost of such quarantine might be deemed “prohibitive” for some families trying to get Granny into the country!)

(So yes - Lilley is right - govt prohibits you from having neighbours over for dinner and virtually ignores your aged Granny flying in from a foreign virus hot spot on some crowded and poorly vented aircraft! And aircraft were KNOWN spreaders of diseases like Colds and Flu BEFORE Wuhan Virus showed up - thanks to those close quarters and re-circulated and virus carrying air!)

(And it has been reported that Wuhan Virus is much lighter than other viruses and can thus hang in the air LONGER than other viruses and thus be potentially INFECTIOUS for longer time periods before floating to the floor and away from your nose and mouth!)

(YES - Federal LIE-berals have set family reunification as a HIGHER PRIORITY than controlling the Wuhan Virus - and LIE-berals have done so simply because of their need to BUY votes! LIE-berals are quite happy to leave the medical cost of dealing with Wuhan Pestilence to the provinces!)

(Even worse - the longer our economy is shut down due to that second wave of infection that LIE-berals are not opposing in any significant way - the more aid money that LIE-berals can shell out in frantic hope of buying our love and respect! LIE-berals hope we will be focussed ONLY on the gravy being doled out today - with NO EYE on what our future taxes will look like when the bills come due and the govt credit card is CANCELLED!)

(LIE-berals are simply trying to sneak past the spring 2021 budget season without having their minority govt cancelled by an enraged public that has awakened to the FULL COST of LIE-beral vote buying! LIE-berals are hoping that so many Cdns will be SO DEEP IN DEBT that they will vote LIE-beral in frantic hope that Our idiot Boy can find a way to keep economic reality and hardship at bay!)

The province on Friday announced new restrictions on restaurants and fitness clubs, Toronto’s medical officer asked the province to close all restaurants and tell people not to leave their homes except for essential trips, and the feds opened the border.

(Sadly it is our municipal govts that are the weak link in the provincial plan! Our municipal cops are too few in number to properly restrict the large gatherings and Covidiot behaviour that are so swiftly spreading Wuhan Virus! Even worse - Our LIE-beral hug a thug judges are ON SIDE with LIE-beral vote buying needs and thus are RELUCTANT to punish quarantine breakers and social distance violators harshly enough to halt such idiot behaviour!)

(We have only to think of the African man who became notorious in 2019 for dumping buckets of sewage onto the heads of Toronto residents! LIE-berals swiftly determined that such an act was medically DANGEROUS and made great efforts to get the guy arrested! And yet the same “leaders” who acted strongly against one lone NUTBAR are AFRAID to take action against a mass of Covidiots who are spreading a dangerous Pestilence by refusing to wear masks or use social distancing!)

On the same day my mother was told she shouldn’t have me over for Thanksgiving dinner, she was also told it’s okay to bring my Uncle Frank over from Scotland for a visit.

(And of course - Great Britain is suffering a resurgence of Wuhan Virus - thanks in large part to air travellers! Spain is a virus hot spot and also happens to be a favoured holiday destination for British citizens - with Spain taking angry issue with Brit plans to quarantine travellers returning from Spain! LIE-beral govt in all countries is more concerned with getting our tourist industry re-started then they are with preventing the spread of Wuhan Pestilence!)

The problem with all of these recommendations from the various levels of government is that they all claim to be making them based on evidence and science to fight the pandemic. None of them are showing their work though.

Do you remember in school when we were told by math and science teachers that we had to show our work to get full marks? I think the politicians, and the political doctors that are advising them, should do the same.

I’m serious, no more announcements of further public health measures, or the relaxing of public health measures without some revelation of the science behind the decision. Saying, “We think,” or, “We know,” shouldn’t be acceptable to the public any longer.

Take a look at what people were subjected to as advice on Friday alone.

Toronto’s medical officer, Dr. Eileen De Villa, released a statement recommending the aforementioned restaurant closures and also, “that people only leave their homes for essential activities.”

Essential activities is pretty limited, it’s an effective return to a full lockdown – it includes going to work or school, doctor’s appointments, buying food and getting exercise.

(LIE-berals apparently consider it an “essential activity” that bored snowbird seniors should be allowed to wander the world and spend hours on crowded airplanes while seeking to visit relatives! But it is NOT federal LIE-berals that bear the cost of the resulting infections! Even worse - LIE-berals have bought into the INSANE NOTION that they will NEVER have to pay back the debts our govts are running up in our names! LIE-berals see no reason not to go on printing money whenever cash is needed! That such a policy is a great way of eventually triggering massive inflation of the sort that created the Dirty Thirties and brought Adolf Hitler to power - is something that LIE-berals NEVER consider!)

(Never in their wildest dreams would LIE-berals consider that Our idiot Boy Justin IS the aspiring Cdn version of Dictator Hitler! Our idiot Boy routinely shows his disdain for Parliament - by making every effort to KEEP IT SHUT DOWN! Our idiot Boy does not want the WE Scandal revived and thus closing Parliament is a handy way to kill the investigating committee!)

(NOR DOES Our idiot Boy want a full accounting of just how much gravy he has handed out - nor does he want any investigation into how much CERB Gravy has been wasted on FRAUD! NDPee leader Jagmeet Singh has gone even further out on a LUNATIC LIMB by suggesting that people who got CERB illegally should not be facing criminal charges! Singh dares suggest that it is unfair to criminally charge people who got CERB due to what Singh calls “clerical errors”! While our civil servants document cases of CERB aid received by holders of FAKE ID!)

(In related news - I have heard rumours that homeless people - who are NOT eligible for CERB - are now “renting” addresses from unscrupulous tenants and home owners in order to provide a real address to which CERB aid can be sent! In exchange for the use of the address, the drug addict or alcoholic will pay $200 per month out of CERB for the use of the address - and use the rest for drug and alcohol binges! Perhaps this is why there has been a recent MAJOR SPIKE in Fentanyl over doses in most provinces in recent weeks?)

The Ford government announced new restaurant restrictions but did not close them – yet – while also saying we should stop the idea of “social circles” and advising “that all Ontarians allow close contact only with people living in their own household.”

(Ford has had his hands tied by Covidiots who are refusing to cooperate with social distancing! In one recent Ontari-owe incident a man got punched in the face after he complained of another man in a store REFUSING to wear a mask! LIE-berals are encouraging this IDIOT behaviour by being mealy mouthed on the subject of ALLEGED Rights! Your refusal to wear a mask violates MY RIGHT not to be exposed to a dangerous Pestilence while out in public buying food or conducting other necessary business!)

(But NONE of this worries our idiot LIE-beral overlords! They are too busy trying to BUY themselves a grand new future using that Funny Money they are printing up there in Ottawa! And NEVER MIND about Weimar Germany style or Argentian style or Venezuela style HYPER INFLATION that rides along RIGHT BEHIND those generous govt cheques!)

(And when the inflation kicks in - LIE-berals will have a GRAND EXCUSE to offer up MORE GRAVY to their civil service union HOG allies! After all - HOG Gravy Grants must keep up with the cost of living! Too bad about the private sector that will make due with whatever CRUMBS the HOGS do not vacuum up!)
 
Twin_Moose
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#1370
I can't believe this was rejected in B.C.

Judge rejects youths' lawsuit that asks Canada to develop climate recovery plan
 
Tecumsehsbones
#1371
Quote: Originally Posted by Twin_Moose View Post

I can't believe this was rejected in B.C.
Judge rejects youths' lawsuit that asks Canada to develop climate recovery plan

That's what happens when you think in stereotypes.
 
B00Mer
#1372
Quote: Originally Posted by Twin_Moose View Post

I can't believe this was rejected in B.C.
Judge rejects youths' lawsuit that asks Canada to develop climate recovery plan

I can't believe this even made it to the courts..