The excluded, second-class citizen athiest


Locutus
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Atheist Ashu Solo threatens human rights complaint after Saskatoon councillor’s dinner blessing



SASKATOON — A Christian prayer by a city councillor at a City of Saskatoon volunteer appreciation dinner discriminated against non-Christians, says a volunteer who intends to complain to the Saskatchewan Human Rights Commission.

Ashu Solo, a member of the city’s cultural diversity and race relations committee, was among the guests at the dinner Wednesday, where Coun. Randy Donauer said a blessing over the food in which he mentioned Jesus and ended with “amen.”

“It made me feel like a second-class citizen. It makes you feel excluded,” said Solo, who is an atheist.
“It’s ironic that I’ve now become a victim of religious bigotry and discrimination at this banquet that was supposed to be an appreciation banquet for the service of volunteers like me.”




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Saskatoon atheist Ashu Solo threatens human rights complaint after city councillor's dinner prayer | Holy Post | National Post

 
WLDB
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Im an atheist and I think that atheist is really over-reacting.
 
Colpy
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Quote: Originally Posted by locutus View Post

atheist ashu solo threatens human rights complaint after saskatoon councillor’s dinner blessing



saskatoon — a christian prayer by a city councillor at a city of saskatoon volunteer appreciation dinner discriminated against non-christians, says a volunteer who intends to complain to the saskatchewan human rights commission.

Ashu solo, a member of the city’s cultural diversity and race relations committee, was among the guests at the dinner wednesday, where coun. Randy donauer said a blessing over the food in which he mentioned jesus and ended with “amen.”

“it made me feel like a second-class citizen. It makes you feel excluded,” said solo, who is an atheist.
“it’s ironic that i’ve now become a victim of religious bigotry and discrimination at this banquet that was supposed to be an appreciation banquet for the service of volunteers like me.”




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saskatoon atheist ashu solo threatens human rights complaint after city councillor's dinner prayer | holy post | national post

what a dick!
 
Goober
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Quote: Originally Posted by WLDB View Post

Im an atheist and I think that atheist is really over-reacting.

So would you say he was dammed by an Atheist??

 
Retired_Can_Soldier
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#5
Ahhhhhhhhh athiest GOD BLESS EM!
 
eh1eh
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They pray at council meeting too and that is a violation of the law separating church and state. If this person had the nuts to just go with that and fight them then he would earn some respect. The sucky baby 'Human Rights' approach really discredits his cause from the get go.
 
Goober
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Quote: Originally Posted by eh1eh View Post

They pray at council meeting too and that is a violation of the law separating church and state. If this person had the nuts to just go with that and fight them then he would earn some respect. The sucky baby 'Human Rights' approach really discredits his cause from the get go.

Myself i wonder about the hoopla. Does it matter one way or the other- Ask him his opinion on others that gave speeches and how many were Bshxt. Not gonna get an answer

Throw a prayer in and everything goes to hell in his mind.
What a loser.
 
skookumchuck
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Just another attention wh*re playing with lawfare. The HRC has turned into a very selective big stick. If some whiner lays a complaint against you, you pay for your own defense and even if you are found innocent you are out of pocket. The complainant pays nothing and if the kangaroo court finds you guilty they assess a fine against you that goes to the complainant.
When found not guilty the complainant should pay all your costs. That would level the playing field, particularly since the complainant, under the current system has nothing to lose and YOU do.

Here is the classic lawfare guy

Richard Warman has sued me -- and other conservative bloggers - Ezra Levant
 
WLDB
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Quote: Originally Posted by eh1eh View Post

They pray at council meeting too and that is a violation of the law separating church and state. If this person had the nuts to just go with that and fight them then he would earn some respect. The sucky baby 'Human Rights' approach really discredits his cause from the get go.


There is no actual law separating church and state in Canada sadly.
 
eh1eh
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Quote: Originally Posted by WLDB View Post

There is no actual law separating church and state in Canada sadly.

Ironic. There is in the USA.
Guess we 'just do it' cuz we're smart.
 
Colpy
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Quote: Originally Posted by eh1eh View Post

They pray at council meeting too and that is a violation of the law separating church and state. If this person had the nuts to just go with that and fight them then he would earn some respect. The sucky baby 'Human Rights' approach really discredits his cause from the get go.

THERE IS NO LAW SEPARATING CHURCH AND STATE!!!!

Good Lord!!

(Oh, it appears WLBD beat me to it....)

Quote: Originally Posted by eh1eh View Post

Ironic. There is in the USA.
Guess we 'just do it' cuz we're smart.

No, there is not.

the ONLY reference to church and state is in the first amendment, and it merely prevents the Congress from establishing a State church, as the Church of England is in Great Britain.

All the rest has been the construction of activist judges, acting outside their parameters of responsibility.
 
Sparrow
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Ok here we go again! What about Freedoms and Rights? They have just as much freedom and right to say a pray and those who do not want to pray 'just don't listen or participate' and stop whining.

Sorry but that is my opinion.
 
Goober
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Quote: Originally Posted by Sparrow View Post

Ok here we go again! What about Freedoms and Rights? They have just as much freedom and right to say a pray and those who do not want to pray 'just don't listen or participate' and stop whining.

Sorry but that is my opinion.

People get upset about nothing. Say a friend passes - they hold the funereal at a church. Do these people hold their principles so dear that they refuse to attend the Church funereal. I mean really -
 
Cliffy
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The guy does sound like a whiner but, I would think that there were people there of various religious practices, so one has to wonder why a Christian prayer was given precedent. Out of respect for others, at least a universal type blessing would have been more appropriate.
 
gerryh
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waa waa waa waa....
 
WLDB
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Quote: Originally Posted by Goober View Post

People get upset about nothing. Say a friend passes - they hold the funereal at a church. Do these people hold their principles so dear that they refuse to attend the Church funereal. I mean really -

I personally dont go to funerals not because they tend to be in churches but because they are too damn depressing. That and I prefer to deal with death on my own.

I'm more of an Irish wake type of person.
 
damngrumpy
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Yes you are dealing with nonsense. Keeping that in mind the councillor should have
used his head. If you are having an appreciation dinner for immigrants who are
volunteers, it might be incumbent to determine where they came from and whether
they were Christians or a large number were made up of other faiths.
Use a generic prayer and offend on one. If it were a mainstream event then a
christian prayer is not so bad, but if you are hosting people who are not Christians
you are asking for trouble
 
Spade
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#18
Prayers don't bother me. I have never been bothered by a prayer, incantation, chant, hex, or charm. But, what relevance they have in Saskatoon council chambers is somewhat bewildering.

Quote: Originally Posted by damngrumpy View Post

Yes you are dealing with nonsense. Keeping that in mind the councillor should have
used his head. If you are having an appreciation dinner for immigrants who are
volunteers, it might be incumbent to determine where they came from and whether
they were Christians or a large number were made up of other faiths.
Use a generic prayer and offend on one. If it were a mainstream event then a
christian prayer is not so bad, but if you are hosting people who are not Christians
you are asking for trouble


You are making far too much sense!

The goal of giving thanks at a meal should be to promore fellowship and community. if it divides, it fails its primary purpose.
 
taxslave
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I wonder what the dip**** would do if one of my native cousins blessed the meal with a sage smudge over the meal? I'm fairly sure a visible minority can't be charged with discrimination.
 
Spade
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Smudges are fine provided no one has allergies.

I sure no Christian would take issue...
 
SLM
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Ah yes, another important case for the human rights tribunal. It's a good thing that no one ever takes advantage and complicates the tribunal with trivial matters so that actual human rights violations are ignored.
 
mentalfloss
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As usual, the OP misleads by cutting off certain parts of the article.

If you actually read the article, it has nothing to do with atheism, but rather, the promotion of one, solitary religion. This isn't a frivolous issue as the meeting's purpose is to be secular (it was a municipal government meeting).
 
TenPenny
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Quote: Originally Posted by eh1eh View Post

They pray at council meeting too and that is a violation of the law separating church and state. If this person had the nuts to just go with that and fight them then he would earn some respect. The sucky baby 'Human Rights' approach really discredits his cause from the get go.

What law is that, that separates Church and State?
 
bobnoorduyn
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Quote: Originally Posted by WLDB View Post

There is no actual law separating church and state in Canada sadly.

What church would we be separating the state from? It's not like any one of them has any influence on govenrment anymore, even in Quebec.
 
Locutus
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Quote: Originally Posted by SLM View Post

Ah yes, another important case for the human rights tribunal. It's a good thing that no one ever takes advantage and complicates the tribunal with trivial matters so that actual human rights violations are ignored.


There is far too much creedence and attention given to these whiny bitches these days.

Not only does this hero have his feelings bothered in some imaginary yet handy fashion, he's a victim of bigotry and, naturally, discrimination too. It always follows that these pussies need an apology too. This guy should choke and die.


“It’s ironic that I’ve now become a victim of religious bigotry and discrimination at this banquet that was supposed to be an appreciation banquet for the service of volunteers like me.”
 
eh1eh
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Quote: Originally Posted by TenPenny View Post

What law is that, that separates Church and State?

Do you have a link for that?
 
SLM
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Quote: Originally Posted by Locutus View Post

There is far too much creedence and attention given to these whiny bitches these days.

Not only does this hero have his feelings bothered in some imaginary yet handy fashion, he's a victim of bigotry and, naturally, discrimination too. It always follows that these pussies need an apology too. This guy should choke and die.


“It’s ironic that I’ve now become a victim of religious bigotry and discrimination at this banquet that was supposed to be an appreciation banquet for the service of volunteers like me.”

Everyone is a frigging victim now a days. It irritates me to no end when someone mis-uses this, or any, label. It irritates when someone cries racism where none exist, when someone cries chauvinism where none exist, where someone cries human rights violations where none exist. There are actual cases of racism, chavunism, and human rights violations (etc, etc) in this world, do we need to be making up new ones? Not to mention that it waters down true cases. We are constantly allowing the people who misuse these systems to define them. So it ends up loosing all meaning.

That's maddening.
 
Locutus
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YOU HURT MY FEELINGS- THEREFORE YOU SHOULD CHANGE



YOU HURT MY FEELINGS- THEREFORE YOU SHOULD CHANGE



Or not. What do I care.

Feelings - Morris Albert - Live - YouTube
 
Machjo
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Quote: Originally Posted by Locutus View Post

Atheist Ashu Solo threatens human rights complaint after Saskatoon councillor’s dinner blessing



SASKATOON — A Christian prayer by a city councillor at a City of Saskatoon volunteer appreciation dinner discriminated against non-Christians, says a volunteer who intends to complain to the Saskatchewan Human Rights Commission.

Ashu Solo, a member of the city’s cultural diversity and race relations committee, was among the guests at the dinner Wednesday, where Coun. Randy Donauer said a blessing over the food in which he mentioned Jesus and ended with “amen.”

“It made me feel like a second-class citizen. It makes you feel excluded,” said Solo, who is an atheist.
“It’s ironic that I’ve now become a victim of religious bigotry and discrimination at this banquet that was supposed to be an appreciation banquet for the service of volunteers like me.”




more lunacy


Saskatoon atheist Ashu Solo threatens human rights complaint after city councillor's dinner prayer | Holy Post | National Post

So, weren't non-Christians free to offer prayers of their own too, or maybe the atheist could have offered a poem that he liked, no?

To ban all cultrual expression undermines diversity and leads instead to aculturalism. Multiculturalism would suggest all cultures should be free to express themselves.

Quote: Originally Posted by eh1eh View Post

They pray at council meeting too and that is a violation of the law separating church and state. If this person had the nuts to just go with that and fight them then he would earn some respect. The sucky baby 'Human Rights' approach really discredits his cause from the get go.

Nothing wrong with prayers at the meeting as long as anyone is free to recite prayers from any book and that the nonreligious be free to recite a poem or something instead. In fact, it's probably a good thing as it allows everyone to think of something greater than themselves before debating laws.

Also, Canada has no separation og church and state anyway. The monarch must remain a member of the Church of England and is prohibited from being married to a catholic; plus we have a separate school system to boot. And all of this is in the Constitution.

Wake up.
 
Locutus
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The Posts' comments section about this good-natured volunteer fellow are priceless.
 

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