“Support Our Troops” slogan falls foul of Olympic rules


Ron in Regina
#31
Might be safer than someone "chesty" in the Woman's Moguls...
 
darkbeaver
#32
Quote: Originally Posted by Ron in Regina View Post

....maybe the Summer Olympics, but the Winter Olympics too?

A little frost does wonders for the complexion. They wouldn't be completely naked anyway because of the olive oil.
 
#juan
#33
Quote: Originally Posted by TenPenny View Post

I'd like to see our women's hockey team naked.

You dirty dude...
 
talloola
#34
Quote: Originally Posted by TenPenny View Post

I'd like to see our women's hockey team naked.

that brings us back to a recent discussion. Men's hockey
'in the cold', and in the nude, one would need binoculars
to see 'anything' at all.

lol
 
Cliffy
#35
Quote: Originally Posted by talloola View Post

that brings us back to a recent discussion. Men's hockey
'in the cold', and in the nude, one would need binoculars
to see 'anything' at all.

lol

And the girls team would have nip-ons that could cause serious harm!
 
CDNBear
#36
Quote: Originally Posted by JBeee View Post

IOC rules forbid political propoganda or advertisements being placed on equipment.

A whole lot of typical kneejerk reactions to something, obviously lost on the IOC and the bulk of the members here.

1, "Support our Troops", is not "political propaganda". It's not even a political movement in any way, shape or form.

2, Neither "Miller time", "Matt Man", nor "Support our Troops" are advertisements.

Unlike the brand names plastered all over equipment on the every athlete. "Uvex", "Oakley", "Fischer", "Prior", "Simms" "K2" and so on.

My guess is, there's more to the complaint then just supposed rule violations.
 
TenPenny
#37
Speaking of Women's Hockey, I notice that we have 'Ladies Downhill Skiing', and Ladies this and Ladies that, but Women's hockey.
 
CDNBear
#38
Quote: Originally Posted by TenPenny View Post

Speaking of Women's Hockey, I notice that we have 'Ladies Downhill Skiing', and Ladies this and Ladies that, but Women's hockey.

Have you seen them play???!!!

Them's ain't no ladies!!!

 
Risus
#39
Quote: Originally Posted by CDNBear View Post

A whole lot of typical kneejerk reactions to something, obviously lost on the IOC and the bulk of the members here.

1, "Support our Troops", is not "political propaganda". It's not even a political movement in any way, shape or form.

And how do you figure that?
 
lone wolf
#40
Quote: Originally Posted by TenPenny View Post

No, the companies who cough up the most money get to be the sponsors.

That's what being a sponsor is all about.

...unless you're DuMaurier or Molsons
 
CDNBear
#41
Quote: Originally Posted by Risus View Post

And how do you figure that?

Simple, it just isn't. It's been around since Soldiers first went off to war. The "yellow ribbon" is older then Afghanistan, Iraq, Vietnam, Korea, WWII, WWI, and so on. It's never been applied to any political party, it's never been applied to support for any specific war, police action or peace keeping mission. It is merely what it says it is, Support for our Troops. Those that perform a duty, to keep us safe, free and able to hold such events as the Olympics, without fear of acts of violence. Hence the Canadian Military presence in Vancouver at said moment. Something odd about not being able to pay homage to those standing on guard at the very event, that now wishes to strip the simple moniker "Support our Troops" from one of the players gear.

Again, it isn't a political movement, it's a simple statement, that means what it says, anyone that thinks otherwise, hasn't clue one and/or, is a complete moron.
 
Curiosity
#42
Quote: Originally Posted by CDNBear View Post

Simple, it just isn't. It's been around since Soldiers first went off to war. The "yellow ribbon" is older then Afghanistan, Iraq, Vietnam, Korea, WWII, WWI, and so on. It's never been applied to any political party, it's never been applied to support for any specific war, police action or peace keeping mission. It is merely what it says it is, Support for our Troops. Those that perform a duty, to keep us safe, free and able to hold such events as the Olympics, without fear of acts of violence. Hence the Canadian Military presence in Vancouver at said moment. Something odd about not being able to pay homage to those standing on guard at the very event, that now wishes to strip the simple moniker "Support our Troops" from one of the players gear.

Again, it isn't a political movement, it's a simple statement, that means what it
says, anyone that thinks otherwise, hasn't clue one and/or, is a complete moron.

Well said Bear - of all the nitpicky commentaries I have read about the Olympics
this one has to be the winner of "not a clue"!
 
TenPenny
#43
It's even more interesting to consider the implications of the 'Support Our Troops' banners, when our troops are in Afghanistan, when you remember that we boycotted the Moscow Olympics because....Russian troops were in Afghanistan.

It is a slippery slope, once you start allowing one slogan that is not one of the official sponsors, you'd have to allow them all. 'Miller Time' is a well known beer slogan.

Just because you happen to believe in the sentiment of a slogan doesn't mean the rules should be bent for that particular cause.
 
CDNBear
#44
Quote: Originally Posted by TenPenny View Post

It's even more interesting to consider the implications of the 'Support Our Troops' banners, when our troops are in Afghanistan, when you remember that we boycotted the Moscow Olympics because....Russian troops were in Afghanistan.

That would be pertinent if "Support our Troops" was in support of military action, which of course it isn't.

Quote:

It is a slippery slope, once you start allowing one slogan that is not one of the official sponsors, you'd have to allow them all. 'Miller Time' is a well known beer slogan.

No it's not. It's simple really. We in the west enjoy a lifestyle and level of security afforded us, by those that would lay down their lives in sacrifice of ours, period. Whether you agree with that, support that, or believe that, is irrelevant. The fact remains, that is exactly what Soldiers do. Furthermore, if not for their actions over the decades, events like the Olympics would be a distant memory.

As for "Miller Time", his name is Miller. I fully grasp the connotation, but the fact remains, his name is Miller and he has sported that personal nic for some time.

Quote:

Just because you happen to believe in the sentiment of a slogan doesn't mean the rules should be bent for that particular cause.

What rule has been broken, "Miller Time" as it pertains to Miller is not an ad, and "Support our Troops" is not a political slogan. Somebody at the IOC' got his panties in a wad.
 
TenPenny
#45
Quote: Originally Posted by CDNBear View Post

That would be pertinent if "Support our Troops" was in support of military action, which of course it isn't.

No it's not. It's simple really. We in the west enjoy a lifestyle and level of security afforded us, by those that would lay down their lives in sacrifice of ours, period. Whether you agree with that, support that, or believe that, is irrelevant. The fact remains, that is exactly what Soldiers do. Furthermore, if not for their actions over the decades, events like the Olympics would be a distant memory.

As for "Miller Time", his name is Miller. I fully grasp the connotation, but the fact remains, his name is Miller and he has sported that personal nic for some time.

What rule has been broken, "Miller Time" as it pertains to Miller is not an ad, and "Support our Troops" is not a political slogan. Somebody at the IOC' got his panties in a wad.

If that's the way you want to interpret it, go right ahead.
 
CDNBear
#46
Quote: Originally Posted by TenPenny View Post

If that's the way you want to interpret it, go right ahead.

What other way is there to interpret the FACT that "Support our Troops" is non political, and the man's name is Miller and his nic has been such for quite sometime?
 
#juan
#47
Quote: Originally Posted by CDNBear View Post

What other way is there to interpret the FACT that "Support our Troops" is non political, and the man's name is Miller and his nic has been such for quite sometime?

I'm sure the company that brews Miller beer appreciates your reasoning bear. By all means let's give a brewery free advertising.
 
Risus
#48
Quote: Originally Posted by CDNBear View Post

What other way is there to interpret the FACT that "Support our Troops" is non political, and the man's name is Miller and his nic has been such for quite sometime?

"support our troops" is political. You can't deny that. The armed forces are part of the government.
 
CDNBear
#49
Quote: Originally Posted by #juan View Post

I'm sure the company that brews Miller beer appreciates your reasoning bear. By all means let's give a brewery free advertising.

Someones going to have to prove that he's been paid or in some way remunerated for doing so.

Anything else is conjecture at best.
 
CDNBear
#50
Quote: Originally Posted by Risus View Post

"support our troops" is political. You can't deny that. The armed forces are part of the government.

, so is the TSSA and they license me. Does that make me political? The lady that took my picture at the Driver's license center works for the Gov't, is she political?

Nope, you're stretching. "Support our Troops" is not partisan, it makes no claims to support any chosen conflict that the Gov't of the day wishes to participate in. It is simply a message in support of those that would die for you and I. I would even support, defend the rights of those Nations that actually stand against our Troops to wear the same message on their gear. It's not "political propaganda". It's a message of support for men and women protecting our rights and freedoms so we can participate in such events as the Olympics.

It's as simple as that.

Nice try though.
 
Johnnny
#51
What if your canadian and you support the taliban like some people on here, you can interpret it to mean that you suppourt the taliban
 
#juan
#52
Quote: Originally Posted by CDNBear View Post

Someones going to have to prove that he's been paid or in some way remunerated for doing so.

Anything else is conjecture at best.

You are still missing the point. As long as it stays on the helmet the advertising is there. So we give the brewery free advertising because a player duplicates a beer slogan using his name.
 
CDNBear
#53
Quote: Originally Posted by #juan View Post

You are still missing the point. As long as it stays on the helmet the advertising is there. So we give the brewery free advertising because a player duplicates a beer slogan with his name.

Prove it!

It makes no difference, his name is Miller and that's the point. My name is Bear, literally, does that mean if I put Bear on my gear, I'm giving free advertising to Bear Archery products?

He's acquiesced to the request to remove "Miller Time", so the point is moot.
 
#juan
#54
Quote: Originally Posted by CDNBear View Post

Prove it!



He's acquiesced to the request to remove "Miller Time", so the point is moot.

Prove what? That "Miller Time" has been around longer than that kid has been alive?


I'm glad he could see that I was right......
 
CDNBear
#55
Quote: Originally Posted by #juan View Post

Prove what?

That he was wearing it as a slogan to advertise Miller Brewery.

Quote:

That "Miller Time" has been around longer than that kid has been alive?

I see you missed the point completely.


Quote:

I'm glad he could see that I was right......

I'm glad you and the IOC have the same myopic views. No wonder the IOC has the credibility of the Bush administration.
 
#juan
#56
Now you're being obtuse Bear

Since "Miller" is the kid's name he has every right to use that name. As soon as he lengthened it to "Millertime", a well-known beer jingo, he broke with the agreement the U.S, Olympic Committee signed to adhere to.
 
Johnnny
#57
Quote: Originally Posted by CDNBear View Post

Have you seen them play???!!!

Them's ain't no ladies!!!

cause there dikes lol, no im kidding they work hard for there sport
 
Risus
#58
Quote: Originally Posted by CDNBear View Post

, so is the TSSA and they license me. Does that make me political? The lady that took my picture at the Driver's license center works for the Gov't, is she political?

Nope, you're stretching. "Support our Troops" is not partisan, it makes no claims to support any chosen conflict that the Gov't of the day wishes to participate in. It is simply a message in support of those that would die for you and I. I would even support, defend the rights of those Nations that actually stand against our Troops to wear the same message on their gear. It's not "political propaganda". It's a message of support for men and women protecting our rights and freedoms so we can participate in such events as the Olympics.

It's as simple as that.

Nice try though.

You are the one stretching it. To the yankee's enemies, it is political. Pretty simple...
 
CDNBear
#59
Quote: Originally Posted by #juan View Post

Now you're being obtuse Bear

No I'm not, you're being myopic. You've made the connection between his slogan and Miller Brewery. Proving they've advertising works. His personal slogan, no matter how much you seem to want to connect it to Miller Brewery, had nothing to do with Miller Brewery.

Hence my point, only the simple minded would be so mypoic as to make such kneejerk reactions.

Quote:

Since "Miller" is the kid's name he has every right to use that name. As soon as he lengthened it to "Millertime", a well-known beer jingo, he broke with the agreement the U.S, Olympic Committee signed to adhere to.

Blah, blah blah!

Quote: Originally Posted by Risus View Post

You are the one stretching it. To the yankee's enemies, it is political. Pretty simple...

, oh brother. The problem is, you are one of the obviously clueless I spoke of earlier. Go research "Support our Troops" and the Yellow Ribbon and get back to me.
 
#juan
#60
Blah, blah blah!

Good argument Bear. Perhaps one of your best efforts.......
 

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