Paris riots


petros
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#31
Says the career welfare recipient.
 
MHz
#32
He's still way smarter than you. How does that make you feel?
 
Cliffy
#33
 
Cliffy
#34
 
Ron in Regina
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#35
Quote: Originally Posted by Cliffy View Post

France’s yellow vest protesters, called “les gilets jaunes,” are protesting the rising living costs associated with the country’s carbon tax and, more specifically, the dramatic increase in gasoline and diesel prices.

http://globalnews.ca/news/4728184/fr...-riots-canada/

BUT Canada will impose a carbon tax that will give back more than it collects to 70% of the people who's wallets it sucks off of...so it's all roses and sunny ways....

http://globalnews.ca/news/4712595/ne...ck-carbon-tax/

http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2018/10...da_a_23569556/

If this is so great for the people, then why the riots in Paris? This question should be the news story in Canada.
 
Cliffy
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#36
Quote: Originally Posted by Ron in Regina View Post

France’s yellow vest protesters, called “les gilets jaunes,” are protesting the rising living costs associated with the country’s carbon tax and, more specifically, the dramatic increase in gasoline and diesel prices.

http://globalnews.ca/news/4728184/fr...-riots-canada/

BUT Canada will impose a carbon tax that will give back more than it collects to 70% of the people who's wallets it sucks off of...so it's all roses and sunny ways....

http://globalnews.ca/news/4712595/ne...ck-carbon-tax/

http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2018/10...da_a_23569556/

If this is so great for the people, then why the riots in Paris? This question should be the news story in Canada.

What will it take to get Canadians to riot? I guess too many spend time complaining on facebook and CC to have the energy to riot.

I find it funny that Yankees and Canadians make fun of the French as being cowards but nobody does riot like the French.
 
Walter
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#37
It doesn’t take courage to riot.
 
MHz
#38
That line is a real riot in your world, Right Walnut??
 
justlooking
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#39
Quote: Originally Posted by Ron in Regina View Post

France’s yellow vest protesters, called “les gilets jaunes,” are protesting the rising living costs associated with the country’s carbon tax and, more specifically, the dramatic increase in gasoline and diesel prices.


The gas and diesel taxes have been suspended/canceled, but more protests are planned for Saturday.
Clearly, something else is going on.
 
Ron in Regina
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#40
Quote: Originally Posted by justlooking View Post

The gas and diesel taxes have been suspended/canceled, but more protests are planned for Saturday.
Clearly, something else is going on.

.......do the French need to heat their homes? It is December in the Northern Hemisphere so that could be part of it. Is heating oil or propane or natural gas or whatever they use for heat suspended/canceled from their carbon tax? A 'carbon' tax is a tax on everything. Everything manufactured will be taxed, & the shipping to the wholesaler will be taxed, the wholesaler will be taxed, the shipping to the retailer will be taxed, the retailer will be taxed, & the tax at every step will eventually be passed onto the end user....who is rioting in the streets in Paris.

Look around you as you sit at your keyboard. What can you see that didn't arrive by plane or train or boat or truck, or some combination of those modes of shipping? Tell me how a head of Iceberg Lettuce the size of a softball is worth $3.99 CAD before a carbon tax but with only the threat of it being imposed in another three weeks? I think this is the retailers trying to get a jump on their price increase. This is much more than the tax on gas and diesel. You & I are both made from dead star stuff, and every breath we take we exhale carbon dioxide (about 1/2 a ton/yr each). This is just the beginning.
 
justlooking
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#41
Quote: Originally Posted by Ron in Regina View Post

.......do the French need to heat their homes?


90% of France will use natural gas for heat and hot water.


I'll tell you what did happen; remember the 'wealth taxes' of 75% that made headlines when Gerard Depardieu
went to Russia ? Macron canceled most of them to try and steal money and people from London businesses because Brexit.
Then he dumped all these new taxes on the working people, and yes, diesel taxes would affect the price of everything,
and higher prices would generate even more taxes.



I guess the Frenchies have enough of being taxed to death, and getting nothing back from it
except more migrants, shittier services, more unemployment, and more taxes.


We'll see how bad it gets tomorrow.
 
Blackleaf
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#42
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

BTW there not be single muzzie in France wearing a yellow jacket.

That's because they don't work.
 
Blackleaf
#43
BRENDAN O'NEILL Vive la revolting French for a lesson from the barricades

Protesters, stormed Paris at the weekend to rage against Emmanuel Macron and his treatment of them with aloof, technocratic disdain – and that's why the leftists in Britain and the US have been largely silent about this people’s revolt

Comment
By Brendan O'Neill
7th December 2018
The Sun

AT last, a people’s revolt against the tyranny of environmentalism. Paris is burning. Not since 1968 has there been such heat and fury in the streets.

Thousands of “gilets jaunes”, or yellow vest protesters, stormed the capital at the weekend to rage against Emmanuel Macron and his treatment of them with aloof, technocratic disdain.

Thousands of 'gilets jaunes', or yellow vest protesters, stormed the capital at the weekend to rage against Emmanuel Macron and his treatment of them with aloof, technocratic disdain

And yet leftists in Britain and the US have been largely silent about this people’s revolt.

The same people who got so excited about the staid, static Occupy movement a few years ago seem struck dumb by the sight of tens of thousands of French people taking to the barricades against Macronism.

It isn’t hard to see why.

As part of his and the EU’s commitment to cutting carbon emissions, Macron wanted to punish the drivers of diesel vehicles in particular, by raising the tax by 7.6 cents (6.7p) for every litre of diesel fuel

It’s because this revolt is as much against their political orthodoxies as it is against Macron’s out-of-touch and monarchical style.

Most strikingly, this is a rebellion against the onerous consequences of climate-change policy, against the politics of environmentalism and its tendency to punish the little people for daring to live relatively modern, fossil-fuelled lives.

This is new. This is unprecedented.

We are witnessing perhaps the first mass uprising against eco-elitism, which is part of the broader populist revolt that has been sweeping Europe for a few years now.

The “gilets jaunes”, named after the hi-vis vests they wear, have been in rebellion against Macron’s fuel tax hikes.

The backlash against fuel tax hikes has led to a humiliating tax U-turn by Macron after a painful lesson

As part of his and the EU’s commitment to cutting carbon emissions, Macron wanted to punish the drivers of diesel vehicles in particular, by raising the tax by 7.6 cents (6.7p) for every litre of diesel fuel.

This would have badly hit the pockets of those in rural France, who cannot just hop on buses as deluded Macronists living in one of the fancy arrondissements of Paris have suggested they should.

These people on the periphery of French society — truck drivers, provincial *plumbers, builders, deliverymen, teachers, parents — have rocked up to the centre of French society in their tens of thousands three times in recent weeks, their message the same every time: “Enough is enough. Stop making our lives harder.”

For years we have lived in a climate of 'You can’t say that about mass immigration — that’s xenophobia'

The backlash has led to a humiliating tax U-turn by Macron after a painful lesson.

It is a perfect snapshot of the most important divide in 21st-century Europe: That between a blinkered elite and ordinary people who’ve had as much *bossing about tax rises, paternalism and disdain as they can take.

Macron decreed the little people of the nation must pay a kind of penance for the eco-crime of driving diesel- fuelled cars, like a modern-day Marie Antoinette deciding what is good for the plebs.

You can’t raise concerns about radical Islam — that’s Islamophobia

This leaderless, diverse revolt, packed with all sorts of people, including both leftists and right-wingers, is important for many reasons.

It beautifully, fatally shatters the delusional faith certain Europhiles and piners for the maintenance of the status quo have placed in Macron since his election in May 2017.

Remember how they said he would hold back the populist tsunami and save the EU from the pesky public’s anger?

Now we know that, far from defeating the populist thirst for change, Macron has inflamed it.

This revolt is also important because it suggests no modern orthodoxy is safe from the populist fightback. Not even the environmentalist one.

The French are standing up to the EU

For years we have lived in a climate of “You can’t say that”. You can’t criticise mass immigration — that’s xenophobia. You can’t oppose the EU — that’s Europhobia. You can’t raise concerns about radical Islam — that’s Islamophobia.

You can’t agitate against climate-change policy — that’s climate-change denialism.

And anyone who dares to bristle against eco-orthodoxy deserves to be cast out of polite society.

And yet now, in this populist moment, people dare to say these things.

They are standing up to the EU, demanding immigration becomes a democratic concern rather than something worked out for us by bureaucrats in Brussels. And now they are grating against the hitherto unquestionable religious-style diktat that says we must all drive less, shop less and do less in order to “save the planet”.

The protesters have a broader sense of public anger with the new political class and their cult of bureaucracy

Of course the gilets jaunes revolt isn’t just about fuel tax.

It expresses a broader sense of public anger with the new political class and their cult of bureaucracy, preference for technocracy over democracy, their distance from the concerns and beliefs of ordinary people.

The revolt speaks to a crisis of legitimacy among the 21st-century political class and a willingness within the public to kick up a fuss about things they might previously have been silent about.

But it is not an accident climate-change policies were, in the French case, the spark.

Many American leftists love the idea of carbon taxes. Corbynistas always drone on about the need for greater eco-responsibility

Environmentalism has always been a central feature of the new elitism, a means through which a self-styled virtuous political class could demonstrate its eco-awareness by shaming and punishing those who drive to work, or work in polluting industries or fail to recycle rubbish.

This is why the kind of people who might normally have got excited about a mass uprising in France are so quiet about the gilets jaunes revolt — because it is a two-fingered salute to them as well.

Many American leftists love the idea of carbon taxes. Corbynistas always drone on about the need for greater eco-responsibility.
Sadiq Khan has introduced a “toxicity charge” for London’s most polluting cars. He must be quaking in his boots as he watches events in France.

Next to the vote for Brexit, the revolt is important — it shows ordinary people have developed a powerful sense of confidence to question everything foisted upon them.

I support these revolting Frenchmen and women.

Brendan O’Neill is editor of Spiked Online.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/792062...he-barricades/
 
Twin_Moose
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#44
Why France's 'yellow vest' protests are about so much more than a fuel tax
 
Hoid
#45
Walter has already told us that its restless muzzies.
 
Cliffy
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#46

To all my international friends who are not sure what's happening in France these days :
I see a bunch of crap on international media about the protests. It did start with the fuel prices hike, but it's not what the protests are about. They are about the french government having taken too many reforms that take from the poor to give to the richest in this country.
It's a grassroot movement supported by about 70% of the population. It concerns all the working classes and people with lower incomes: retirees, self-employed, ambulance-workers, nurses, students, farmers... Even part of the police and fire-fighters support the movement and protest.
The past years, we have seen all the public services funding being drastically cut, to the point that there's no public hospitals, schools or transportation left in towns and rural areas. For some, having a car is the only way to survive. So when the people leading our country, who have chauffeurs, cars and fuel paid by our taxes, ask the people to "make an effort" it feels like a bitter joke.
A little reminder : the past few months, we've seen the wealth tax (and other taxes the rich used to pay) being scrapped (saving the 1% wealthiest people in the country 5.2 billion euros per year, according to Oxfam) and the biggest companies in France still pay 4 times less taxes (or no tax for Amazon / Google, and such) than a self-employed person or artisan.
So no, it's not about french people not wanting to make efforts for the environment, it's about fighting a government that crushes the majority of its people and that doesn't give a single **** about the environment or social/fiscal justice. - Oriane Orion
4 December at 04:05
 
DaSleeper
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#47
Quote: Originally Posted by Cliffy View Post

What will it take to get Canadians to riot? I guess too many spend time complaining on facebook and CC to have the energy to riot.

I find it funny that Yankees and Canadians make fun of the French as being cowards but nobody does riot like the French.

This is real irony
A facebook addict complaining about facebook and using facebook memes to complain on CC


And he calls the gang mentality of rioters "Bravery"
Last edited by DaSleeper; 1 day ago at 08:22 AM..
 
Twin_Moose
#48
Alberta yellow vest protests lack violence seen in Paris, but anti-immigration anger simmers

Quote:

Four people were killed, hundreds injured and streets were littered with flaming cars and broken glass as thousands clad in yellow vests partook in violent protests in France in recent weeks against a planned increase to the fuel tax.
The protest movement has now spread across the globe, but in Alberta, which may be Canada's centre of anti-carbon-tax discontent, the yellow vest protests Saturday were free from physical violence.
"We are Canadian, we're not anywhere close to that kind of radical," said Allison Prentice, who was clad in a yellow vest at the Calgary protest. "I'm proud to be here and represent people who care about Canadians first."
The burning anger, which seemed to be lit by multiple fuses, still meant threats of violence were on the lips of some attendees who linked frustration over economic woes caused by low oil prices to the country's immigration policies.
In Calgary, more than 100 protesters, some accompanied by dogs also decked out in yellow vests, chanted "No Trudeau. No Trudeau" outside of city hall. Some yelled "String him up," others yelled "traitor."
"They hate our country and they hate our way of life," yelled one speaker through a megaphone, to cheers and whistles, not specifying who "they" are.
Calgary police said the rally was peaceful and no protesters were arrested.
Edmonton also saw a large protest, with about 150 people marching from the Legislature to Churchill Square, carrying signs, some reading "No Global Climate Pact. Suicide."
Multiple posts on Canada's yellow jackets Facebook page called for more drastic action.
"Look at France today. After four weeks of burning the cities, the French government cut the carbon tax. So what do we want? 90 years or four weeks until something changes?" wrote Robb Kerr on the group's page. "If you want to crush a government, you have to play their game … You want to see them jump? Then burn down City Hall."
The protests were jointly against the provincial and federal carbon taxes, and Canada's plan to endorse the United Nations' migration pact, which outlines objectives for treating global migrants humanely and efficiently.
"I'm here for primarily the fact that I know many people who barely get by month to month, so until we can take care of our own, I'm concerned that the money we don't have are going to people that don't have the right to have it, before our own," said Prentice.
Attendee Peter Lebrun said he feared the non-legally-binding UN Global Compact on Migration would harm the country.
"I think that opens up a lot of possibilities that would prove to be negative to Canada as a whole," said Lebrun, another attendee at the Calgary rally.
Members of Soldiers of Odin were also in attendance in Edmonton and Calgary. The anti-immigration group was founded in 2015 in Finland by a white supremacist.
Stephen Garvey, the founder of National Citizens Alliance, a Calgary-based anti-immigration political party, and one of the organizers of the Edmonton rally, said the sentiments expressed at the events have been building over some time.
"There's massive censorship of media," said Garvey. "This is un-Canadian … Canada has to be about the Canadian people. It can't be about people sold out to some globalist agenda to the U.S., in Ottawa."
Speakers at both rallies decried the media, saying there hasn't been enough attention paid to their cause.
"There's no media outlet here today. The Liberals bought CBC. They're not coming," said one protester in a Facebook live video of the Calgary event.

 
petros
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#49
Quote: Originally Posted by Cliffy View Post

If you had a job you wouldn't have that problem.
 
Dixie Cup
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#50
Petros: I'm thinking (I hope) that he means "crony capitalism") which, I agree with and must be stamped out, - not capitalism in and of itself. Without capitalism, we'd be hooped!!


JMHO
 
Tecumsehsbones
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#51
Quote: Originally Posted by Twin_Moose View Post

Alberta yellow vest protests lack violence seen in Paris, but anti-immigration anger simmers

Wait. . . I thought the yellow vesters are all Muzzies.

That's what Waltard and the Old Stock say anyhow. And of course, they would know, because. . . well, just cuz!
 
Cliffy
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#52
 
taxslave
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#53
Quote: Originally Posted by Cliffy View Post

Actually it is fight to protect hard earned money from unelected bureaucrats and socialists that never seen a tax they didn't like.
 
Hoid
#54
its about restless muzzies.

a racist told me that
 
Cliffy
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Danbones
#56
They are fighting YOU ffs

Geezus man.

What, you need facebook meme lessons from sleepy?
 
Danbones
#57
Quote: Originally Posted by DaSleeper View Post

This is real irony
A facebook addict complaining about facebook and using facebook memes to complain on CC
And he calls the gang mentality of rioters "Bravery"

from a guy who debates using face book memes himself.

You are PATHETIC and high larious doood.
 
Twin_Moose
#58
I thought Cliffy was against Oil and in favour of Carbon tax?
 
Twin_Moose
#59
France tells Trump to stop interfering in its politics
 
Cliffy
#60
Quote: Originally Posted by Twin_Moose View Post

I thought Cliffy was against Oil and in favour of Carbon tax?

It must be nice to live in a black or white reality. There are more than just two choices out there.
 

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