Toronto Police Officer Charges in Connection with Streetcar Shooting


JLM
+1
#61
Quote: Originally Posted by petros View Post

So are TO cops who think they are above the law.

I think that applies to cops everywhere. Egotistical people just for that reason should never be qualified to be a cop. Add a little cruelty to the egotism and you have a real A$$HOLE!
 
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petros
+1
#62
And racism.
 
JLM
+1
#63
Quote: Originally Posted by petros View Post

And racism.

That too!
 
Locutus
#64
Yatim’s family sues Toronto police in wake of teen’s shooting death: report



The family of the 18-year-old shot and killed on a TTC streetcar last summer has filed a multi-million dollar lawsuit against Toronto Police, according to a published report.

The Toronto Star reports Sammy Yatim’s mother and sister filed the lawsuit in February.

The suit alleges the police officers on the scene when Yatim was shot were not properly trained to deal with someone suffering an emotional disturbance and used excessive force.

The lawsuit names Const. James Forcillo — who has been charged with second-degree murder in Yatim’s death — as well as police Chief Bill Blair, the Toronto Police Services Board, and two unnamed police officers, including the officer who Tasered Yatim after he was shot eight times.

Yatim’s family is suing for more than $8-million and claim they are suffering anxiety, depression, and physical and psychological conditions.

The defendants have not filed any statements of defense.

The family is being represented by prominent Toronto lawyer Julian Falconer who has represented other families of people killed at the hands of police, including Ashley Smith and Douglas Minty.

Yatim died July 27, 2013, after police shot the teen on an empty streetcar. He was suffering an acute emotional disturbance, the family said in its statement of claim, according to the The Star.


Yatim’s family sues Toronto police in wake of teen’s shooting death: report | 680News
 
Locutus
#65
Police officer who shot Sammy Yatim to face additional charge of attempted murder



James Forcillo is also charged with second-degree murder | National Post
 
JLM
#66
Quote: Originally Posted by Locutus View Post

Police officer who shot Sammy Yatim to face additional charge of attempted murder



James Forcillo is also charged with second-degree murder | National Post


That was the good thing about the Old West, bullsh*t back up charges weren't required.
 
grumpydigger
#67
The system seems to have no problem laying charges , against Dangerous incompetent corrupt lying cops.

But in reality they work too close together, to ever have a conviction.

This is merely window dressing, because of the public outrage.
This guy will retire with full pension and be considered a hero before this is done.
 
Locutus
+1
#68
les video of mr druggie with his pecker out and then of course he gets killed by some trigger happy sweaty buckaroo. fortunately his corpse was tased just to be sure.

anyway, don't expect stranger streetcar girls to look at your wiener. don't be a douche. don't pull knives on people.

view vids from bottom of page upwards as the star listed them 'stupidly'.

Videos from inside TTC streetcar shown at Sammy Yatim murder trial | Toronto Star
 
Tecumsehsbones
#69
Quote: Originally Posted by grumpydigger View Post

The system seems to have no problem laying charges , against Dangerous incompetent corrupt lying cops.

But in reality they work too close together, to ever have a conviction.

This is merely window dressing, because of the public outrage.
This guy will retire with full pension and be considered a hero before this is done.

They should do what the Chicago DA did to get Dante Servin off.
 
IdRatherBeSkiing
#70
He should be charged. The kid had a knife but he was contained in an empty streetcar. No need to shoot unless he comes out and charges.
 
Tecumsehsbones
#71
Quote: Originally Posted by IdRatherBeSkiing View Post

He should be charged. The kid had a knife but he was contained in an empty streetcar. No need to shoot unless he comes out and charges.

Why do you hate the police? They're brave men and women doing a tough, dangerous job. Why can't you support them? Bet if you're robbed or attacked you'll be calling on them for help quick enough.
 
JLM
#72
Quote: Originally Posted by Tecumsehsbones View Post

Why do you hate the police? They're brave men and women doing a tough, dangerous job. Why can't you support them? Bet if you're robbed or attacked you'll be calling on them for help quick enough.

From following this case a little I've concluded it's hard to draw a conclusion either way. Sometimes people respond to things they believe, though in many cases not very accurate. Sometimes there's three or four things happening at once or maybe the responder thinks there's three or four things happening at once.
 
spaminator
#73
Quote: Originally Posted by Locutus View Post

les video of mr druggie with his pecker out and then of course he gets killed by some trigger happy sweaty buckaroo. fortunately his corpse was tased just to be sure.

anyway, don't expect stranger streetcar girls to look at your wiener. don't be a douche. don't pull knives on people.

view vids from bottom of page upwards as the star listed them 'stupidly'.

Videos from inside TTC streetcar shown at Sammy Yatim murder trial | Toronto Star

should have shot his cock off.
 
IdRatherBeSkiing
#74
Quote: Originally Posted by Tecumsehsbones View Post

Why do you hate the police? They're brave men and women doing a tough, dangerous job. Why can't you support them? Bet if you're robbed or attacked you'll be calling on them for help quick enough.

Troll much?

One can not hate the police and recognize that they can occasionally be wrong.
 
DaSleeper
#75
Quote: Originally Posted by IdRatherBeSkiing View Post

Troll much?

One can not hate the police and recognize that they can occasionally be wrong.

That's her M.O. Constant lame attempts at sarcasm!
 
Cliffy
#76
This is how British police deal with a similar situation, only the perp has a machete:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8mC0FA06AM
 
spaminator
#77
Bail extended for Const. James Forcillo in Yatim shooting as he pursues appeal
By Sam Pazzano , Toronto Sun
First posted: Wednesday, November 09, 2016 09:13 PM EST | Updated: Wednesday, November 09, 2016 09:18 PM EST
TORONTO - Toronto Police Const. James Forcillo’s bail was extended in advance of a Nov. 9 deadline as he pursues an appeal of his conviction for the attempted murder of Sammy Yatim.
Appeal court judge Eileen Gillese, who freed Forcillo in July, asked that Forcillo surrender himself by Nov. 9 and she wanted the appeal to be heard expeditiously.
She said Forcillo poses no risk to the public “as there is no risk that he could commit further offences” and she added that the appeal wasn’t frivolous.
Defence lawyer Peter Brauti noted the bail was extended but no appeal date has yet been set.
Forcillo, 33, answered a call for a passenger carrying a weapon on a west-end Toronto streetcar on July 27, 2013.
He fired two separate volleys of shots at knife-wielding 18-year-old Yatim — the first causing critical injuries — and a second round as he lay dying and paralyzed on the floor of the evacuated Dundas St. W. streetcar.
Forcillo was acquitted of second-degree murder for the first volley but convicted of attempted murder for the second set of shots.
He received a six-year sentence in July by Justice Edward Then and Forcillo, a former court officer, spent the night in custody.
A condition of his bail is that he surrender himself on Nov. 9. His bail was extended before the previously set surrender date.
Forcillo’s bail conditions remain unchanged from the date he was charged three years ago:
A surety of $500,000.
He must remain in Ontario.
He can only leave his house once a week, and only if accompanied by someone else.
spazzano@postmedia.com
Bail extended for Const. James Forcillo in Yatim shooting as he pursues appeal |
 
tay
#78
Toronto police Const. James Forcillo has had his bail extended until October, when the appeal of his attempted murder conviction is set to be heard.

Found guilty last year of attempted murder in the July 2013 shooting death of Sammy Yatim , Forcillo has been out on bail while appealing the conviction.

That appeal is scheduled to be heard Oct. 2. The officer will remain out on bail until the eve of his appeal, Forcillo’s appeal lawyer confirmed Tuesday.

Forcillo, 34, is seeking to have his conviction for the attempted murder of Yatim quashed or a new trial ordered on the charge of attempted murder only.

The officer was released under strict conditions last July, after he was sentenced to six years in prison . He spent one night in the Toronto South Detention Centre before being released on house arrest.

In her ruling granting Forcillo bail, Justice Eileen Gillese emphasized the need for the appeal to be heard as quickly as possible. In that July ruling she ordered a November surrender date for Forcillo; the officer’s bail was extended at that appearance.

The appeal was initially expected to begin this spring.

In her decision, Gillese ruled Forcillo’s incarceration pending appeal was not necessary for public confidence in the administration of justice.

“Despite the seriousness of the offence for which the Appellant stands convicted,” she wrote, “in my view, fully informed members of the community will objectively understand and accept that it is not contrary to the public interest that he be released.”

It is not unusual for offenders to be released on bail pending appeal — even for a conviction as serious as murder — if the court finds the offender is not a flight risk and poses no threat to public safety, and if there are strong grounds for appeal.

Forcillo is suspended without pay by the Toronto Police Service.

https://www.thestar.com/news/crime/2...-shooting.html
 
spaminator
#79
Cop faces misconduct charge for Tasering Sammy Yatim | Toronto & GTA | News | To
 
spaminator
#80
Cop convicted in Sammy Yatim shooting seeks acquittal on appeal | Toronto & GTA
 
tay
#81
Death by suicide? There would have been no death if he hadn't of been shot. He was alone and contained.......


Recently filed documents show Forcillo plans to argue Superior Court Justice Edward Then was wrong to exclude cellphone and expert evidence about the possibility of "suicide by cop," where a person behaves threateningly in order to trigger a lethal response from law enforcement.

His lawyers also say Then was wrong to deny an application for a mistrial once the evidence was deemed inadmissible, since that prevented the defence from countering the narrative put forward by prosecutors.

They also say Then erred in instructing jurors to view the two volleys of bullets fired by Forcillo as separate incidents, and to consider the charge of attempted murder.

Forcillo's lawyers argue that opened the door for a compromise verdict, where jurors find someone guilty of a lesser charge rather than convicting of a more serious one or acquitting them entirely.

"As a matter of common sense, the suggestion that an accused can be legally justified in killing someone but criminally liable for attempting to kill that same person within the span of less than 10 seconds in unfathomable," they said in the documents

"In this situation the trial judge ought to have either quashed the attempted murder count or directed the jury that if they acquitted the appellant of second-degree murder in relation to the entire transaction, they were required to similarly acquit him of attempted murder.

Forcillo fired two volleys at Yatim, who held a small knife and was exposing himself. Court heard the first round of shots was the one that killed him.

Forcillo is asking the appeal court, which is set to hear his case this fall, to substitute a not-guilty verdict or order a new trial

The officer, who is currently on bail pending the appeal, is also seeking a declaration that the mandatory minimum sentence for attempted murder is unconstitutional, and wants to be granted a suspended sentence. Barring that, he wants his sentence reduced to the minimum five years.

In the documents, his lawyers say the minimum sentence is "grossly disproportionate" and Forcillo's "moral blameworthiness in the unique circumstances of this case is at the lowest end of the spectrum."

Cop who killed teen says judge was wrong to exclude 'suicide by cop' evidence
 
spaminator
#82
Toronto Const. James Forcillo charged with perjury, attempt to obstruct justice
Kevin Connor
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Published:
December 21, 2017
Updated:
December 21, 2017 8:23 PM EST
Toronto Police Const. James Forcillo leaves the courthouse at 361 University Ave. in Toronto on May 16, 2016. Ernest Doroszuk/Toronto Sun
Toronto police Const. James Forcillo has now been charged with perjury and attempt to obstruct justice.
Forcillo – who was convicted of the fatal shooting of Sammy Yatim on a streetcar in 2013 – is currently in a Toronto jail for breaching his bail conditions.
He was appealing a six-year sentence for attempted murder and was on bail when he breached those conditions.
As part of his conditions he was to reside in the home of his ex-wife, but he moved to his new girlfriend’s home prior to attending court to revise his bail conditions.
A Toronto police spokesman said when he went to court to change his bail conditions to reside at a new residence “he lied under oath” because he had already made the change of residence.
“While making an attempt to change his bail conditions he had to make a statement,” police said.
That resulted in a perjury charge, which is also obstruction of justice.
The Toronto Police Service Professional Standards began their own investigation after receiving information from the Special Investigations Unit that they had caught him providing a false affidavit in court.
The TPS laid the two new charges on Thursday.
Forcillo’s bail was revoked in November for failing to comply with recognizance.
He agreed to having his bail revoked and go to jail.
His trial to appeal his conviction of attempted murder is slated to take place this spring.
Toronto Const. James Forcillo charged with perjury, attempt to obstruct justice | Toronto Sun
 
TenPenny
#83
Funny how he's getting to see the other side of the system now.
 
spaminator
#84
Const. James Forcillo in court for attempt to obstruct justice charge
Canadian Press
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Published:
December 29, 2017
Updated:
December 29, 2017 11:34 AM EST
Toronto Police Const. James Forcillo leaves the courthouse at 361 University Ave. in Toronto on May 16, 2016. Ernest Doroszuk/Toronto Sun
TORONTO — The case of a Toronto Police officer found guilty of attempted murder in the fatal shooting of a teen on a streetcar and now charged with attempting to obstruct justice and perjury will return to court next month.
Const. James Forcillo appeared in court Friday and is set to appear by video link on Jan. 12 to schedule a bail hearing on the charges, which were laid last week.
Even if he is granted bail on those charges, however, Forcillo would remain in custody to serve his sentence in the shooting of 18-year-old Sammy Yatim.
Sammy Yatim
The officer had been out on bail living under house arrest as he appealed his conviction, but his bail was revoked in November after he was charged for breaching his bail conditions.
Forcillo was sentenced to six years in prison last year for his role in the shooting, an incident that set off a wave of public outrage after video of what happened went viral.
James Forcillo charged with perjury, attempt to obstruct justice
Bail revoked for Toronto Police Const. James Forcillo
Forcillo locked up on alleged bail breach for not living at ex-wife’s house
He has since asked the appeal court to substitute a not-guilty verdict or order a new trial in his case.
He is also seeking a declaration that the mandatory minimum sentence for attempted murder is unconstitutional, and wants to be granted a suspended sentence. Barring that, he wants his sentence reduced to the minimum five years.
Toronto Const. James Forcillo charged with perjury, attempt to obstruct justice | Toronto Sun
Bail revoked for Toronto Police Const. James Forcillo, convicted in Sammy Yatim shooting | Toronto Sun
Forcillo locked up on alleged bail breach for not living at ex-wife’s house | Toronto Sun
Const. James Forcillo in court for attempt to obstruct justice charge | Toronto Sun
 
Curious Cdn
#85
His reaction to the courts verdict on the shooting tells us that they got it right and that he really is a "wrong" cop.
 
spaminator
#86
Toronto cop James Forcillo seeks to appeal case to Supreme Court
Canadian Press
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Published:
July 10, 2018
Updated:
July 10, 2018 2:55 PM EDT
Const. James Forcillo leaves court at 361 University Ave. after a sentencing hearing on May 18, 2016. (CRAIG ROBERTSON, Toronto Sun)
A Toronto police officer convicted of attempted murder in the shooting death of a troubled teen on an empty streetcar is seeking leave to bring his case before Canada’s top court.
Const. James Forcillo fired two separate volleys at 18-year-old Sammy Yatim, who was standing alone and holding a small knife, in an incident that ignited public outrage after a bystander’s video came to light.
James Forcillo leaves 361 University Courthouse with his wife Irina Forcilla on Wednesday, Sept. 30, 2015.In 2016, a jury acquitted Forcillo of the more serious charge of second-degree murder related to the first volley of shots — which killed the teen — but found him guilty of attempted murder related to the second hail of bullets, fired seconds later while Yatim was lying on his back.
Lawyers for Forcillo challenged the ruling but Ontario’s top court dismissed the appeal in April.
In upholding Forcillo’s conviction and sentence, Ontario’s Court of Appeal found Forcillo’s second round of shots was “clearly unnecessary and excessive.”
His legal team is now seeking to challenge the appeal court decision, arguing that the first and second volleys were “artificially” divided into two separate events, leading to the separate charges.
Michael Lacy, Joseph Wilkinson and Bryan Badali are asking the Supreme Court to decide whether prosecutors were required to prove that the first and second rounds of shots were two different “transactions.”
They are also contesting Forcillo’s initial six-year sentence, which was a year longer than the mandatory minimum.
In their application to the court, the lawyers write that mandatory minimum sentences are intended to deter people from committing crimes.
But the lawyers argue that when someone carrying a firearm legally uses it in good faith — as they suggest Forcillo did — that person is not deterred because they believe they’re obeying the law and therefore would not go to prison.
The Crown has 30 days to respond to the application.
The court has said it takes an average of three months to decide on leave applications after they are filed.
Forcillo recently had six months added to his sentence after pleading guilty to perjury. He had also been charged with breaching the conditions of his bail while awaiting the Ontario Court of Appeal decision, along with obstruction of justice, but those charges were dropped after he entered the guilty plea.
http://torontosun.com/news/local-new...-supreme-court
 
spaminator
#87
Supreme Court dismisses Forcillo's appeal
Canadian Press
Published:
December 6, 2018
Updated:
December 6, 2018 12:27 PM EST
Const. James Forcillo leaves court in Toronto on Monday, May 16 , 2016, after a suspension in his sentencing hearing.Chris Young / THE CANADIAN PRESS
Canada’s top court has refused to hear an appeal from a Toronto police officer jailed for the shooting of a teenager on an empty streetcar five years ago.
In a decision released on Thursday, the Supreme Court of Canada denied Const. James Forcillo leave to appeal his conviction and sentence.
In 2016, a jury acquitted Forcillo of the second-degree murder of 18-year-old Sammy Yatim, who was holding a small knife, but convicted the officer of attempted murder. The conviction related to a second volley of bullets Forcillo fired after Yatim was down and dying.
Forcillo’s lawyers argued the first and second volleys the officer fired were artificially divided into discrete events. They also wanted to contest his initial six-year sentence, which was a year longer than the mandatory minimum.
Sammy Yatim
Forcillo was one of the first officers to respond to a call about a teen exposing himself on the streetcar while brandishing a small knife. By the time police arrived, Yatim was the only person left on the streetcar in the early morning hours of July 2013.
Forcillo fired an initial three shots, which caused Yatim to fall to the floor of the streetcar, then fired a second volley of six more shots. He was the only officer to fire his weapon. The bursts lasted less than 10 seconds. Another officer then tasered the teen.
Bystander video of the shooting that surfaced sparked widespread public outrage.
Ontario’s top court dismissed Forcillo’s appeal in April, prompting him to apply to the Supreme Court.
In upholding the conviction and sentence, the Ontario Court of Appeal found the officer’s second volley to have been “clearly unnecessary and excessive.” In asking the Supreme Court to weigh in, Forcillo’s lawyers wanted to argue that the first and second rounds of shots were not two different “transactions.”
In their application to the high court, the lawyers also argued that mandatory minimum sentences are intended to deter people from committing crimes. However, they maintained deterrence did not apply because Forcillo legally used his gun in good faith.
Forcillo recently had six months added to his sentence after pleading guilty to perjury. He had also been charged with breaching the conditions of his bail while awaiting the Ontario Court of Appeal decision along with obstruction of justice, but those charges were dropped after his guilty plea.
http://torontosun.com/news/local-new...forcillos-case
 
spaminator
#88
MANDEL: Justice at last for Sammy Yatim
Michele Mandel
Published:
December 6, 2018
Updated:
December 6, 2018 6:27 PM EST
Sammy Yatim
At long last, Sammy Yatim can rest in peace.
With the Supreme Court’s refusal to hear an appeal of his conviction and sentence, James Forcillo is out of options. The former Toronto Police constable — he officially resigned in September — must now pay his debt to society with no more avenues left to escape justice for attempted murder.
The trigger-happy cop can no longer argue he had legal justification to fire the second volley of shots that hit the 18-year-old as he already lay dying on the floor of that empty streetcar on July 27, 2013. The time has finally come for Forcillo to take responsibility for his horrible decision.
Toronto Police Const. James Forcillo leaves the courthouse at 361 University Ave. in Toronto on May 16, 2016. (Ernest Doroszuk/Toronto Sun)
And after all these years, some expression of remorse from him is long overdue.
To the family foremost. And to the city as well.
It was the viral video that we can never unsee: Just 50 seconds into being called to the empty Dundas St. streetcar where the troubled Yatim, high on Ecstasy, had exposed himself to passengers and now stood armed with a small switchblade, Forcillo opened fire and pumped three bullets into the young man.
He didn’t try to de-escalate the situation, He didn’t ask what was wrong. He didn’t even ask his name.
A jury of his peers acquitted Forcillo of second-degree murder for firing those initial fatal shots. But they could not justify his pause of 5.5 seconds and then his indefensible decision to fire six more times. They convicted him of attempted murder.
A Superior Court judge ordered Forcillo jailed for six years because firing the second volley of shots was “unreasonable, unnecessary and excessive” and an “egregious breach of trust.”
Forcillo appealed to the Ontario Court of Appeal, but in April they upheld his conviction and sentence. So his lawyers applied for leave to appeal to the highest court in the land.
In the meantime, he was happily out on bail, having served just one night in jail after his conviction. But after being caught at his new fiancee’s home instead of the house he shared with his ex-wife and surety, Forcillo was sent to federal prison last year.
James Forcillo leaves 361 University Courthouse with his wife Irina Forcilla on Wednesday, Sept. 30, 2015. (Craig Robertson/Toronto Sun/Postmedia Network) Craig Robertson/Toronto Sun
And there he will remain now that the Supreme Court has declined to hear his appeal.
“We respect that decision,” tweeted Forcillo’s appeal lawyer Michael Lacy. “This ends the legal proceedings and Mr. Forcillo will now continue to serve out his sentence.”
Peter Brauti, who defended him at trial, was disappointed by the decision but admitted he was relieved the legal odyssey is finally over.
“There were very unique issues in this case that were being decided for the first time and we would have liked the Supreme Court to weigh in on those issues,” the lawyer said.
“This was a difficult and hard-fought case but it’s safe to say now the final chapter has been written.”
At least the legal one.
Did Sammy Yatim beg for chance to call his dad?
Cop who shot Sammy Yatim gets 6 months for perjury
Bail revoked for Toronto Police Const. James Forcillo, convicted in Sammy Yatim shooting
Toronto Police use-of-force report released
“We are grateful to the Supreme Court of Canada for this decision,” Yatim’s father Bill said in a statement. “And we hope that with this decision, Mr. Forcillo finally accepts his conviction and sentence, and responsibility for his actions.”
For Yatim’s family, of course, this tragic story will never end.
The pain of losing a child will last forever. As well, there are still civil lawsuits to be argued and continuing demands for a change in police culture as well as discipline for the sergeant who Tasered Yatim.
“The conduct of Officer Dusan Pravica, who was responsible for Tasering my son, Sammy, after he had already been shot nine times, has yet to be addressed,” the father said. “The complaint into Mr. Pravica’s conduct was made over five years ago.”
Still they wait.
Yet for the man who shot their son on that horrible summer night, time speeds ahead.
Forcillo is already eligible to apply for day parole next July.
mmandel@postmedia.com
http://torontosun.com/news/local-new...or-sammy-yatim
 
Dixie Cup
+2
#89
Quote: Originally Posted by petros View Post

Those last 6 almost gave him a full on first degree murder. He was lucky the Crown didn't proceed with that charge.


Would never have happened. First degree has to be premeditated and I doubt he was thinking of killing anyone prior to the incident. He should be charged with 2nd degree. To me, manslaughter would not have been appropriate either as shooting someone "9 times" isn't an accident; the first 3 maybe, the last 6 no.


JMHO
 

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