Trade WAR??!!

Curious Cdn
Conservative
#61
Quote: Originally Posted by Ocean Breeze View Post


U.S and China slap tariffs on each other in latest round of escalating trade war


China announced tariffs on $16 billion in U.S. goods after the United States said it would impose the same amount of tariffs on Chinese goods.

The moves, which were expected, represent an ongoing escalation of trade tensions that could soon see tariffs on hundreds of billions of dollars of goods.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/

It's a business opportunity for Canadians that we can't afford to ignore.
 
White_Unifier
#62
Quote: Originally Posted by Curious Cdn View Post

It's a business opportunity for Canadians that we can't afford to ignore.

An opportunity only in the sense that while a weaker US economy will hurt Canada, China might then buy more from Canada in compensation. It won't make up for it, but it will soften the blow.

Given that Canada's economy is an international light-weight given our small population, I still think we should go the way of unilateral free trade as much as possible and then negotiate trade agreements only on matter pertaining to health and safety standards etc.
 
pgs
Free Thinker
#63
Quote: Originally Posted by Curious Cdn View Post

It's a business opportunity for Canadians that we can't afford to ignore.

Create George Co. and jump on this opportunity .
 
EagleSmack
+1
#64
Quote: Originally Posted by Curious Cdn View Post

It's a business opportunity for Canadians that we can't afford to ignore.


WTF is Canada going to do with this "business opportunity"?


LMAO.... tards man.
 
Ocean Breeze
Free Thinker
#65
Donald Trump: ‘Canada must wait’ on trade deal, but Mexican one is coming nicely

https://globalnews.ca/news/4382233/d...canada-mexico/


Playing one against the other??
 
Twin_Moose
Conservative
#66
Punishing Canada we will end up with a bad deal

Only hope is a sunset clause to fix this with smarter heads
 
CaptainTrips
+1
#67
What will Trudeau and his girls do if Trump tariffs cars? Tariff more US stuff of course, after all tariffs are a tax and they are not going to turn down an opportunity to hit us with more taxes. But, what are they going to do at the NAFTA bargaining table? What should they do? Scrap the dairy protection? We could probably put up with cheaper cheese to save our auto industry.
 
White_Unifier
#68
Quote: Originally Posted by CaptainTrips View Post

What will Trudeau and his girls do if Trump tariffs cars? Tariff more US stuff of course, after all tariffs are a tax and they are not going to turn down an opportunity to hit us with more taxes. But, what are they going to do at the NAFTA bargaining table? What should they do? Scrap the dairy protection? We could probably put up with cheaper cheese to save our auto industry.

B...b... but what about the dairy farmers?
 
CaptainTrips
#69
Quote: Originally Posted by White_Unifier View Post

B...b... but what about the dairy farmers?

They can either learn to compete or sell.
 
White_Unifier
#70
Quote: Originally Posted by CaptainTrips View Post

They can either learn to compete or sell.

You mean like other entrepreneurs in other Canadian businesses? But that's so unfair?
 
Ocean Breeze
Free Thinker
#71
US-China trade war: New tariffs come into force

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-...p+news+stories
 
Bar Sinister
No Party Affiliation
+1
#72
Trump has badly mishandled his "Easy to win." trade war. One of the principle things he overlooked was that in a trade war with a dictatorship like China there is no electorate to pressure the government if anything goes wrong. The Chinese know that in the long term (which may be only a couple more years) all they have to do is wait until Trump is gone and then things will return to normal. If Trump had known his history (fat chance of that) he should have known that China responds very poorly to threats. High level negotiation was the best way to go, but Trump thought he could bully the Chinese into accepting his terms and that policy is simply not working out very well.
 
Ocean Breeze
Free Thinker
#73

Trump has decided to impose additional tariffs on $200 billion in Chinese goods in dramatic escalation of trade battle


The announcement of the tariffs, confirmed by two people familiar with the matter, is likely to come at the beginning of the week. It would represent the most significant step taken in the trade war so far, adding to tariffs on about $50 billion in goods that the U.S. and China have slapped on each other, and is likely to draw significant retaliation from the Chinese.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/
 
pgs
Free Thinker
+1
#74
Quote: Originally Posted by Ocean Breeze View Post


Trump has decided to impose additional tariffs on $200 billion in Chinese goods in dramatic escalation of trade battle


The announcement of the tariffs, confirmed by two people familiar with the matter, is likely to come at the beginning of the week. It would represent the most significant step taken in the trade war so far, adding to tariffs on about $50 billion in goods that the U.S. and China have slapped on each other, and is likely to draw significant retaliation from the Chinese.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/

Good ! Kick them were it counts .
 
Curious Cdn
Conservative
#75
Quote: Originally Posted by CaptainTrips View Post

They can either learn to compete or sell.

... or they can wait for their government subsidy cheques like the tooth in'-tootin' free market dairy farmers in the U.S.A. do.

What a crock of shyte. If the free market did every single thing in Canada, the place would look like Mogadishu.

NEWS FLASH! Social Darwinism is dead. Intelligent collaboration put it out of business about eight generations ago.
 
Hoid
#76
Quote: Originally Posted by pgs View Post

Good ! Kick them were it counts .

in the American consumers wallet
 
Ocean Breeze
Free Thinker
+2
#77

Trump administration slaps tariffs on roughly $200 billion more in Chinese goods. China has vowed to retaliate against such a move.


President Trump is proceeding with plans to put tariffs on a variety of Chinese products, including everyday consumer goods. The tariffs, which take effect later this month, will be 10 percent until the end of the year, when they will rise to 25 percent.

The action follows earlier import taxes on $50 billion of Chinese goods, most of which went into effect in July.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/
 
pgs
Free Thinker
#78
Quote: Originally Posted by Ocean Breeze View Post


Trump administration slaps tariffs on roughly $200 billion more in Chinese goods. China has vowed to retaliate against such a move.


President Trump is proceeding with plans to put tariffs on a variety of Chinese products, including everyday consumer goods. The tariffs, which take effect later this month, will be 10 percent until the end of the year, when they will rise to 25 percent.

The action follows earlier import taxes on $50 billion of Chinese goods, most of which went into effect in July.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/

War is imminent.
 
Curious Cdn
Conservative
#79
Quote: Originally Posted by pgs View Post

War is imminent.

We're slowly heading in that direction, that's for sure.
 
Ocean Breeze
Free Thinker
#80
Quote: Originally Posted by Curious Cdn View Post

We're slowly heading in that direction, that's for sure.

And all because of...
 
Ocean Breeze
Free Thinker
#81
China retaliates with tariffs on additional $60 billion in U.S. imports after Trump administration expands showdown with Beijing

The Chinese response came after President Trump went ahead with 10 percent tariffs on a range of Chinese products, including consumer goods. Chinese officials pledged to fire back with 5 and 10 percent duties on $60 billion in U.S. imports.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...ational&wpmk=1
 
Twin_Moose
Conservative
+1
#82
Quote: Originally Posted by Ocean Breeze View Post

And all because of...

China is bullying the whole world that's why
 
Hoid
#83
Says the guy who is desperate to get that pipeline through and sell some bitumen to those big bullies.
 
Twin_Moose
Conservative
+3
#84  Top Rated Post
They are insisting on it from Canada, Trudeau desperately wants a trade agreement with China, I want our crude to tide water more than China to sell to in the Pacific. We need one to the East Coast as well.
 
Curious Cdn
Conservative
+1
#85
Quote: Originally Posted by Twin_Moose View Post

They are insisting on it from Canada, Trudeau desperately wants a trade agreement with China, I want our crude to tide water more than China to sell to in the Pacific. We need one to the East Coast as well.

We currently have all of our eggs in the USA basket and clearly it no longer works to our favour. The US is becoming too capricious and unstable and if they are our only significant trade partner, we go down the drain hand-in-hand with them.
 
Hoid
#86
not really.

we did not go down the drain with them in 2008 because we were insulated behind a well run banking system
 
Ocean Breeze
Free Thinker
+1
#87
Quote: Originally Posted by Curious Cdn View Post

We currently have all of our eggs in the USA basket and clearly it no longer works to our favour. The US is becoming too capricious and unstable and if they are our only significant trade partner, we go down the drain hand-in-hand with them.

We should have been "diversifying" for some time. now. We have allowed ourselves to become too complacent and dependant on the US.........and now with a protectionist and erratic USA.........that is not to our advantage..and might be a vulnerability.
 
Ron in Regina
Free Thinker
#88
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

Says the guy who is desperate to get that pipeline through and sell some bitumen to those big bullies.



The US is on the edge of oil independence and
they're Canada's only real current customer at
this point....and they already get a HUGE discount
against the world price for Canadian oil.

What price will the US be willing to pay for our oil
when they really don't need it? I'm betting on about
half of nothing or something close to that.
Last edited by Ron in Regina; Sep 19th, 2018 at 10:13 PM..Reason: spacing
 
Curious Cdn
Conservative
+1
#89
Quote: Originally Posted by Ron in Regina View Post



The US is on the edge of oil independence and
they're Canada's only real current customer at
this point....and they already get a HUGE discount
against the world price for Canadian oil.

What price will the US be willing to pay for our oil
when they really don't need it? I'm betting on about
half of nothing or something close to that.

The calculation of American "energy independence" includes Canadian oil as "domestic". They see it as their's. You have to wonder to what ends they will go to keep it as "their's"
 
Ron in Regina
Free Thinker
+1
#90
Quote: Originally Posted by Curious Cdn View Post

The calculation of American "energy independence" includes Canadian oil as "domestic". They see it as their's. You have to wonder to what ends they will go to keep it as "their's"


With the improving technology, that big find in Texas a couple years back that it doesn't seem has really been touched since the Saudi's dumped the price of oil a few years back by opening up the taps, and the Bakken play....the US won't need to include Canadian Oil as "domestic" in the near future. Then what?
 

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