This Beautiful Muslim Woman Just Stabbed A Woman In The Neck And Killed Her Because…


spilledthebeer
#61
Quote: Originally Posted by pgs View Post

Yet the Irish Canadians who are descendants of the famine settlers have thrown aside those chains and are now Canadian first and foremost .


Yes- that`s right- the sensible ones came here and left the Sein Fein to battle it out with Brit radicals! Consider Irish born Darcy McGee- born in the old sod and came to Canada and made himself unpopular with Irish radicals who did not want to believe that it would be best to put down the guns and start talking in a sensible way to the Brits!

And in exchange for this tolerant and sensible approach, a couple of Fenians riddled him with bullets! Irish and Brit moderates eventually figured out they had a choice- to be hanged by the radicals or to negotiate honestly with moderates- and so peace was made!

But that happy ending does not stop some leftie goofs from trying to re-write history!
 
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spaminator
+1
#62
Accused PATH stabber declared fit to stand trial
Sam Pazzano Courts Bureau
More from Sam Pazzano Courts Bureau
Published:
July 30, 2018
Updated:
July 30, 2018 9:33 PM EDT
Rohinie Bisesar
Accused killer Rohinie Bisesar has been declared fit to stand trial and will appear in court on Aug. 1.
The Ontario Review Board agreed with a joint submission and released its decision on Monday, thus sending the 43-year-old back to court in the stabbing death of Rosemarie “Kimberly” Junor.
Bisesar was earlier declared mentally unfit to stand trial but was returned to receive treatment.
There is a publication ban on the reasons for the board’s decision.
Rosemarie Junor is pictured in this undated photo posted on Facebook.
Bisesar earlier believed an implanted device controls her movements and that Junor wasn’t dead and the murder charge should therefore be withdrawn, court heard.
A tentative trial date has been set for Oct. 29.
Bisesar was charged with first-degree murder after newlywed Junor, 28, was fatally stabbed in the Shoppers Drug Mart in the downtown PATH walkway on Dec. 11, 2015.
Accused PATH stabber gets another 60 days of treatments, tests for ‘abnormalities’
Accused PATH stabber appeals mentally unfit ruling
The unemployed former financial analyst with an MBA from York University has been in custody and undergoing psychiatric assessment since her arrest shortly after the slaying.
Junor had graduated from university and built her career at Medcan, using an ultrasound machine to screen people for signs of heart disease.
She had wed just months before her death.
spazzano@postmedia.com
http://torontosun.com/news/local-new...to-stand-trial
 
MHz
#63
Good thing we have you keeping us up to date on their dastardly deeds.

I see the other two big religions are sin free again, good for them. Is that via lots of effort or they just come by it naturally??
 
EagleSmack
#64
huh?
 
DaSleeper
#65
Quote: Originally Posted by EagleSmack View Post

huh?

Forgot his medication .......again.....
 
EagleSmack
#66
Quote: Originally Posted by DaSleeper View Post

Forgot his medication .......again.....


It does seem so.
 
spilledthebeer
#67
Quote: Originally Posted by EagleSmack View Post

It does seem so.


Oh MY!!!!!!


Stop the presses!!!!!!!!!!!!


That "beautiful Muslim KILLER" has been declared SANE enough to stand trial!!!!!!!!


Isnt it sad she is apparently just another "victim" of LIE-beral correctness run wild!!!!!


Shall we ask if LIE-beral hug a thug judges have reversed their earlier decision in a hypocrite effort to put the public at ease and try to persuade us they CAN get tough with Muslim killers?


And considering how utterly disgusted the Cdn public is getting with watching Muslim killers whining "its not my fault- the voices in my head told me too do it" - maybe our LIE-beral overlords decided they better make an example of somebody?????


After all- with all those illegals flooding across the border without rhe bother of any sort of security check- there is a VERY GOOD CHANCE we will have more shooting sprees by "crazy people" that never shopuld have been let into Canada in the first place!!!!


On a related note- I have just received my latest communique from my Member of Parliament and LIE-berals are attempting to calm the public by assuring us the border crisis is well in hand!!!!


LIE-berals point out that they are taking the fingerprints of illegals as they enter Canada!!!!


Isnt that nice!!!!!


I am sure that having the fingerprints of the Danforth shooter on file made it easier to identify the corpse of the killer but oh- how sad- having the fingerprints DID NOT SAVE A SINGLE VICTIM!!!!


LIE-beral security is an international JOKE!!!!
 
spaminator
#68
Woman accused in PATH stabbing 'markedly better'
Canadian Press
More from Canadian Press
Published:
August 1, 2018
Updated:
August 1, 2018 12:10 PM EDT
Rohinie Bisesar is pictured in this undated handout photo.
TORONTO — The case of a woman accused of murder in a stabbing at a Toronto drugstore has been put over to next month.
Rohinie Bisesar was recently ruled fit to stand trial by authorities overseeing her treatment, but a jury still has to make its own ruling about her mental state before her case proceeds.
A date for that jury hearing will be set when the case returns to court on Sept. 5.
Bisesar is charged with first-degree murder in the death of Rosemarie Junor, who was stabbed in a Shoppers Drug Mart in a downtown Toronto concourse in 2015.
Rosemarie Junor is shown in a Toronto Police Service handout photo.
A jury previously found Bisesar unfit to stand trial due to a mental disorder.
Bisesar’s lawyer says his client is now “markedly better.” Robert Karrass says if a jury finds Bisesar fit, her trial is set to begin in late October.
A fitness ruling pertains to the person’s mental state at the time of their court proceedings, and is separate from a ruling on a person’s criminal responsibility for their actions, which is based on their mental state at the time the alleged crime was committed.
http://torontosun.com/news/local-new...-case-put-over
 
spilledthebeer
#69
Quote: Originally Posted by spaminator View Post

woman accused in path stabbing 'markedly better'
canadian press
more from canadian press
published:
August 1, 2018
updated:
August 1, 2018 12:10 pm edt
rohinie bisesar is pictured in this undated handout photo.
Toronto — the case of a woman accused of murder in a stabbing at a toronto drugstore has been put over to next month.
Rohinie bisesar was recently ruled fit to stand trial by authorities overseeing her treatment, but a jury still has to make its own ruling about her mental state before her case proceeds.
A date for that jury hearing will be set when the case returns to court on sept. 5.
Bisesar is charged with first-degree murder in the death of rosemarie junor, who was stabbed in a shoppers drug mart in a downtown toronto concourse in 2015.
Rosemarie junor is shown in a toronto police service handout photo.
A jury previously found bisesar unfit to stand trial due to a mental disorder.
Bisesar’s lawyer says his client is now “markedly better.” robert karrass says if a jury finds bisesar fit, her trial is set to begin in late october.
A fitness ruling pertains to the person’s mental state at the time of their court proceedings, and is separate from a ruling on a person’s criminal responsibility for their actions, which is based on their mental state at the time the alleged crime was committed.
http://torontosun.com/news/local-new...-case-put-over


of course the case was put over!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


lie-berals do not want to be put on the spot over that regular muslim use of the insanity plea to excuse radical muslim bloodshed!!!!!!!!!!!!


lie-berals will follow standard practice and not resolve the case till the public has forgotten it!!!!!!!!!!!

 
EagleSmack
+1
#70
Larger
 
spaminator
+1
#71
Bisesar deemed fit to stand trial on murder charges
Sam Pazzano Courts Bureau
Published:
October 29, 2018
Updated:
October 29, 2018 6:54 PM EDT
Rohinie Bisesar (handout photo)
Accused killer Rohinie Bisesar was declared fit to stand trial and will face a first-degree murder charge in a judge-alone trial on Friday.
After hearing psychiatrist Dr. Ian Swayze testify that Bisesar is in remission for symptoms of her schizophrenia, a jury concluded that the 43-year-old woman could stand trial in the stabbing death of Rosemarie “Kimberly” Junor.
Rosemarie Junor
Bisesar was declared mentally unfit to stand trial last year but was undergoing treatment and is now free of those symptoms.
“We will be seeking an Not Criminally Responsible (verdict) at trial on the basis she was suffering from a mental condition that robbed her of the ability to know the consequences of her actions were wrong,” said her lawyer Robert Karrass outside court.
“A year ago, she was very very unwell. She was experiencing schizophrenia. She believed an entity was controlling her actions,” said Karrass.
“She’s in full remission. The NCR test is how was she at the time of the offence. If she’s found NCR, she’ll be going to a mental hospital.”
Rohinie Bisesar charge upgraded to first-degree murder in PATH stabbing
Alleged PATH killer insists she’s innocent
Woman accused in PATH stabbing ‘markedly better’
While she was delusional, Bisesar stated an implanted device controlled her movements and that Junor wasn’t dead and the murder charge should therefore be withdrawn, court heard.
Bisesar was charged with first-degree murder after newlywed Junor, 28, was fatally stabbed in the Shoppers Drug Mart in the downtown PATH walkway on Dec. 11, 2015.
Rohinie Bisesar grins to her lawyer Calvin Barry in College Park court on Dec. 18, 2015 (Pam Davies sketch)
The unemployed former financial analyst with an MBA from York University has been in custody since her arrest shortly after the slaying.
“You can be angry but it doesn’t bring my sister back,” said the victim’s older brother, Richard Junor outside court.
“We think about her every day. We miss her every day and every night. She’s gone.”
Junor had graduated from university and built her career at Medcan, using an ultrasound machine to screen people for signs of heart disease.
She had wed just months before her death.
spazzano@postmedia.com
http://torontosun.com/news/local-new...murder-charges
 
spilledthebeer
+1
#72
Quote: Originally Posted by DaSleeper View Post

Forgot his medication .......again.....


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MHz DOES NOT TAKE medication!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


THAT IS WHY he is a senior member of the Tinfoil Hat Brigade!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And its all the fault of the Jews!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Every bad thing is the fault of Jews- just ask MHz and see!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



The quality of tin foil is even being degraded so MHz cannot fully protect himself from the mind control rays!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Those cheap tinfoil hats are also the fault of the Jews!



MHz KNOWS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
spilledthebeer
#73
Quote: Originally Posted by spilledthebeer View Post

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MHz DOES NOT TAKE medication!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


THAT IS WHY he is a senior member of the Tinfoil Hat Brigade!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And its all the fault of the Jews!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Every bad thing is the fault of Jews- just ask MHz and see!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



The quality of tin foil is even being degraded so MHz cannot fully protect himself from the mind control rays!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Those cheap tinfoil hats are also the fault of the Jews!



MHz KNOWS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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AS for that DERANGED Muslim woman MURDERER - she has been diagnosed as being SCHIZOPHRENIC at the time of the murder!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


But now that she has had all that FREE Cdn health care she is MUCH BETTER NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Translation: She was NUTS at the time of the crime AND WILL NOT be held criminally accountable!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And NOW she is miraculously CURED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And will be SET FREE to go on her merry, manic, potentially destructive way!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


She SHOULD NOT be in our country!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And she should certainly NOT BE running loose and unsupervised!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Especially considering how many Schizophrenics GO OFF THEIR MEDS AND RE- OFFEND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Ship her back where she came from!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
spaminator
#74
MANDEL: NCR defence a bitter pill for PATH victim's family to swallow
Michele Mandel
Published:
November 2, 2018
Updated:
November 2, 2018 8:41 PM EDT
Rosemarie Junor’s family refuses to accept that their daughter’s killer could be found not criminally responsible.
They brought photos of her wedding day and filled the courtroom benches, shaking their heads as the psychiatrist diagnosed Rohinie Bisesar with severe schizophrenia and absolving her of any responsibility for what she did.
Junor’s mother Rosalind was marking her birthday that day with hopes of forgiving Bisesar and getting on with rebuilding her shattered family.
Rosemarie Junor
“I was willing to forgive her from the bottom of my heart,” she told reporters. “I was going to go down on my knees and say I forgive you…but it wasn’t there…”
“You did it. Accept it. And then you know what I’d say? ‘I forgive you.’”
They believe the NCR defence is too easily used to escape punishment.
MANDEL: PATH stabbing accused left blood-stained knife on counter
Rohinie Bisesar charge upgraded to first-degree murder in PATH stabbing
Rohinie Bisesar deemed fit to stand trial in PATH stabbing
“We are hurt. We are very, very hurt as a family,” she said. “She used her hand with that weapon and stabbed my baby in her heart.”
And even now that she’s on medication, it hardly seems as if she’s sorry at all.
mmandel@postmedia.com
http://youtube.com/watch?v=eNRntUzjIBs
http://torontosun.com/news/local-new...ily-to-swallow
 
spaminator
#75
MANDEL: PATH stabbing accused left blood-stained knife on counter
Michele Mandel
Published:
November 2, 2018
Updated:
November 2, 2018 9:12 PM EDT
It was 24 seconds of horror that would end the life of one young woman and leave another facing a first-degree murder charge.
Now Justice John McMahon will decide next week whether accused PATH stabber Rohinie Bisesar should be found not criminally responsible for the death of newlywed Rosemarie “Kim” Junor three years ago.
In an agreed statement of facts, Bisesar has admitted plunging the knife into Junor’s chest. But both the defence and the Crown agree she was suffering from schizophrenia and “commanding hallucinations” at the time and should be found NCR.
However, Junor’s family is angry at the joint recommendation that Bisesar should be found not guilty due to a mental disorder. Once an Ontario Review Board is satisfied that her illness is under control, her freedom is assured.
“There’s no justice,” said Junor’s brother Richard. “She got no justice. We all know that.”
Richard Junor, the older brother of the PATH stabbing victim Rosemarie Junor, in front of 361 University Avenue Courts where the accused was in court today, on Wednesday February 8, 2017. (Stan Behal/Toronto Sun/Postmedia Network)
They were two strangers who should never have met that tragic day.
Pretty and petite, Bisesar was a brilliant student who did two undergrad degrees – cell biology and commerce – as well as an MBA. She had a long-term boyfriend and a job at York University.
But beginning in 2008, symptoms of her schizophrenia began to appear and by March 2014, she had to be hospitalized after threatening to burn down her family’s home.
Called by the defence, forensic psychiatrist Dr. Ian Swayze told the court Bisesar was held involuntarily at Toronto East General for about a month. And then she was released against medical advice.
According to her chart at the time: “It was felt that the patient is not behaving properly and had numerous delusional beliefs, but there was no evidence of any self harming or suicidal ideation. There was no homicidal ideation.”
Rohinie Bisesar is pictured in this undated handout photo.
A year later, the transient, unemployed woman had run up $150,000 in debt and was a fixture in downtown coffee shops, dressed in her business suit while spending her days on her laptop and “networking” with men.
She kept hearing the voices in her head, Swayze explained, but she believed she was the victim of some larger conspiracy that had imbedded “nanotechnology” inside her body.
Her family had washed their hands of her. Her former boyfriend would spot her on Bay St. and described her as looking like a bag lady and a character from My Beautiful Mind.
Meanwhile, Junor had just married her longtime sweetheart in August, moved into a new home and was working as cardiovascular ultrasound technologist at MedCan.
“Dear God, Thank you for another day of Life,” she had posted on Facebook earlier that year. “Thanks for another day of waking up healthy and happy.”
Rosemarie Junor (Toronto Police handout)
According to the agreed statement of facts, surveillance footage shows a small woman dressed in a dark jacket and a lavender shirt carrying a large red shopping bag entering the Shoppers beneath Bay and Wellington Sts. at 2:55:24 p.m. on Dec. 11, 2015.
“As the woman makes her way through the store, another surveillance camera clearly depicts a facial shot of the woman carrying the red bag. The woman is Rohinie Bisesar,” said Crown attorney Bev Richards.
Rohinie Bisesar deemed fit to stand trial in PATH stabbing
Woman accused in PATH stabbing ‘markedly better’
Accused PATH stabber gets another 60 days of treatments, tests for ‘abnormalities’
MANDEL: NCR defence a bitter pill for PATH victim’s family to swallow
Junor was on a break and shopping in the store while chatting on her phone with girlfriend, Devika Singh. She told her that she just needed to pick up some lotion for her husband Lenny.
Suddenly Singh heard screaming over the phone.
A witness saw Bisesar approach Junor “as if she knows her” but later investigation would show the two women were complete strangers.
“According to surveillance footage, at 2:56:40 p.m. Rosemarie Junor turns away from the direction she had begun to walk; she backs out of the aisle she was about to enter and Rosemarie Junor is clutching her chest,” Richards said.
“Rohinie Bisesar had stabbed Rosemarie Junor once directly in the heart.”
Bisesar was then seen leaving the blood-stained knife on a cosmetics counter before casually exiting the store.
Junor staggered toward a Shoppers employee. “I just got stabbed,” she said. A few days later, she would succumb to her injuries.
According to her psychiatrist, Bisesar said the voices had ordered her to go uptown to buy a knife from a dollar store on Sheppard Ave. and then return downtown.
Her recollection of the stabbing is chilling.
“The voice said, if you mean it, do it,” Swayze quoted Bisesar as saying. “The voice and movements raised my hand, pushed forward…It was like the knife was sticking to my hand and couldn’t be dropped.”
Forensic psychiatrist Dr. Ian Swayze speaks to media after Rohinie Bisesar pleads not guilty in fatal stabbing of Rosemarie Junor on Friday November 2, 2018. (Dave Abel/Toronto Sun/Postmedia Network)
“I thought this was just an activity, didn’t think it was legal or otherwise because I was spending all my energy fighting the voice and communications…Fighting the invisible entity….As soon as it happened I wanted to get away…Traveled back home…The voice said I should have kept the knife.”
She later wrote the judge and insisted she wasn’t to blame.
“At the moment of the crime, it said ‘If you are going to kill someone do it like you mean it’ and moved my hand/arm forward.”
Since being compelled to take anti-psychotic medication in 2017, Bisesar is no longer hearing voices and her other symptoms are in remission, the psychiatrist said.
“Ms. Bisesar has developed significant insight into her major mental illness; schizophrenia,” Swayze wrote in his report. “She also is reflective, empathic and remorseful when discussing the index offence.”
He then goes on to quote her: “I did not plan to go murder someone…It was just like time stopped with all the chaos in my mind…I feel sorry for the person (victim) caught in my illness.”
In court, she showed no emotion at all.
mmandel@postmedia.com
Rohinie Bisesar
In this excerpt from Rohinie Bisesar’s psychiatric assessment, the accused PATH stabber recalls the day of Dec. 11, 2015:
“The day started as usual…I showered and dressed…was reading business newspapers to keep up my knowledge…I don’t recall how I got downtown…I heard the voice downtown in late morning…was saying words… It said what is the worst thing you can do…I was really agitated and upset…phased out, not thinking, like those river stones again…stepping one at a time.”
She was not entirely sure where she first heard the voices but stated: “I’m usually in the Starbucks at Adelaide St., East and Yonge Street…It’s easy to sit and do work, I had my laptop…I pretend to read but I’m zoned out…distracted by the voice and the movements and communication.”
She stated: “The voice said to get a knife…went to the Dollar store to buy the knife…I’m familiar with the place and it’s close to the subway.”
She then indicated: “I went back through King or St. Andrew subway entrance…went to the bathroom in First Canadian place…didn’t want to hurt someone…A lady asked if I was okay…I’m in the concourse, moving from one bench to another…Then the voice, communication and movements made me sit up, turn, walk straight into the Shopper’s fast…I was not an agreeable participant…went right up to the person (victim) with no hesitation, barely took it (knife) out of the bag…My arm was in L-shaped.
“The voice said, if you mean it do it…The voice and movements raised my hand, pushed forward…It was like the knife was sticking to my hand and couldn’t be dropped…I thought this was just an activity, didn’t think it was legal or otherwise because I was spending all my energy fighting the voice and communications…fighting the invisible entity…As soon as it happened I wanted to get away…traveled back home…The voice said I should have kept the knife.”
http://youtube.com/watch?v=eNRntUzjIBs
http://torontosun.com/news/local-new...ife-on-counter
 
spilledthebeer
#76
Quote: Originally Posted by spaminator View Post

MANDEL: PATH stabbing accused left blood-stained knife on counter
Michele Mandel
Published:
November 2, 2018
Updated:
November 2, 2018 9:12 PM EDT
It was 24 seconds of horror that would end the life of one young woman and leave another facing a first-degree murder charge.
Now Justice John McMahon will decide next week whether accused PATH stabber Rohinie Bisesar should be found not criminally responsible for the death of newlywed Rosemarie “Kim” Junor three years ago.
In an agreed statement of facts, Bisesar has admitted plunging the knife into Junor’s chest. But both the defence and the Crown agree she was suffering from schizophrenia and “commanding hallucinations” at the time and should be found NCR.
However, Junor’s family is angry at the joint recommendation that Bisesar should be found not guilty due to a mental disorder. Once an Ontario Review Board is satisfied that her illness is under control, her freedom is assured.
“There’s no justice,” said Junor’s brother Richard. “She got no justice. We all know that.”
Richard Junor, the older brother of the PATH stabbing victim Rosemarie Junor, in front of 361 University Avenue Courts where the accused was in court today, on Wednesday February 8, 2017. (Stan Behal/Toronto Sun/Postmedia Network)
They were two strangers who should never have met that tragic day.
Pretty and petite, Bisesar was a brilliant student who did two undergrad degrees – cell biology and commerce – as well as an MBA. She had a long-term boyfriend and a job at York University.
But beginning in 2008, symptoms of her schizophrenia began to appear and by March 2014, she had to be hospitalized after threatening to burn down her family’s home.
Called by the defence, forensic psychiatrist Dr. Ian Swayze told the court Bisesar was held involuntarily at Toronto East General for about a month. And then she was released against medical advice.
According to her chart at the time: “It was felt that the patient is not behaving properly and had numerous delusional beliefs, but there was no evidence of any self harming or suicidal ideation. There was no homicidal ideation.”
Rohinie Bisesar is pictured in this undated handout photo.
A year later, the transient, unemployed woman had run up $150,000 in debt and was a fixture in downtown coffee shops, dressed in her business suit while spending her days on her laptop and “networking” with men.
She kept hearing the voices in her head, Swayze explained, but she believed she was the victim of some larger conspiracy that had imbedded “nanotechnology” inside her body.
Her family had washed their hands of her. Her former boyfriend would spot her on Bay St. and described her as looking like a bag lady and a character from My Beautiful Mind.
Meanwhile, Junor had just married her longtime sweetheart in August, moved into a new home and was working as cardiovascular ultrasound technologist at MedCan.
“Dear God, Thank you for another day of Life,” she had posted on Facebook earlier that year. “Thanks for another day of waking up healthy and happy.”
Rosemarie Junor (Toronto Police handout)
According to the agreed statement of facts, surveillance footage shows a small woman dressed in a dark jacket and a lavender shirt carrying a large red shopping bag entering the Shoppers beneath Bay and Wellington Sts. at 2:55:24 p.m. on Dec. 11, 2015.
“As the woman makes her way through the store, another surveillance camera clearly depicts a facial shot of the woman carrying the red bag. The woman is Rohinie Bisesar,” said Crown attorney Bev Richards.
Rohinie Bisesar deemed fit to stand trial in PATH stabbing
Woman accused in PATH stabbing ‘markedly better’
Accused PATH stabber gets another 60 days of treatments, tests for ‘abnormalities’
MANDEL: NCR defence a bitter pill for PATH victim’s family to swallow
Junor was on a break and shopping in the store while chatting on her phone with girlfriend, Devika Singh. She told her that she just needed to pick up some lotion for her husband Lenny.
Suddenly Singh heard screaming over the phone.
A witness saw Bisesar approach Junor “as if she knows her” but later investigation would show the two women were complete strangers.
“According to surveillance footage, at 2:56:40 p.m. Rosemarie Junor turns away from the direction she had begun to walk; she backs out of the aisle she was about to enter and Rosemarie Junor is clutching her chest,” Richards said.
“Rohinie Bisesar had stabbed Rosemarie Junor once directly in the heart.”
Bisesar was then seen leaving the blood-stained knife on a cosmetics counter before casually exiting the store.
Junor staggered toward a Shoppers employee. “I just got stabbed,” she said. A few days later, she would succumb to her injuries.
According to her psychiatrist, Bisesar said the voices had ordered her to go uptown to buy a knife from a dollar store on Sheppard Ave. and then return downtown.
Her recollection of the stabbing is chilling.
“The voice said, if you mean it, do it,” Swayze quoted Bisesar as saying. “The voice and movements raised my hand, pushed forward…It was like the knife was sticking to my hand and couldn’t be dropped.”
Forensic psychiatrist Dr. Ian Swayze speaks to media after Rohinie Bisesar pleads not guilty in fatal stabbing of Rosemarie Junor on Friday November 2, 2018. (Dave Abel/Toronto Sun/Postmedia Network)
“I thought this was just an activity, didn’t think it was legal or otherwise because I was spending all my energy fighting the voice and communications…Fighting the invisible entity….As soon as it happened I wanted to get away…Traveled back home…The voice said I should have kept the knife.”
She later wrote the judge and insisted she wasn’t to blame.
“At the moment of the crime, it said ‘If you are going to kill someone do it like you mean it’ and moved my hand/arm forward.”
Since being compelled to take anti-psychotic medication in 2017, Bisesar is no longer hearing voices and her other symptoms are in remission, the psychiatrist said.
“Ms. Bisesar has developed significant insight into her major mental illness; schizophrenia,” Swayze wrote in his report. “She also is reflective, empathic and remorseful when discussing the index offence.”
He then goes on to quote her: “I did not plan to go murder someone…It was just like time stopped with all the chaos in my mind…I feel sorry for the person (victim) caught in my illness.”
In court, she showed no emotion at all.
mmandel@postmedia.com
Rohinie Bisesar
In this excerpt from Rohinie Bisesar’s psychiatric assessment, the accused PATH stabber recalls the day of Dec. 11, 2015:
“The day started as usual…I showered and dressed…was reading business newspapers to keep up my knowledge…I don’t recall how I got downtown…I heard the voice downtown in late morning…was saying words… It said what is the worst thing you can do…I was really agitated and upset…phased out, not thinking, like those river stones again…stepping one at a time.”
She was not entirely sure where she first heard the voices but stated: “I’m usually in the Starbucks at Adelaide St., East and Yonge Street…It’s easy to sit and do work, I had my laptop…I pretend to read but I’m zoned out…distracted by the voice and the movements and communication.”
She stated: “The voice said to get a knife…went to the Dollar store to buy the knife…I’m familiar with the place and it’s close to the subway.”
She then indicated: “I went back through King or St. Andrew subway entrance…went to the bathroom in First Canadian place…didn’t want to hurt someone…A lady asked if I was okay…I’m in the concourse, moving from one bench to another…Then the voice, communication and movements made me sit up, turn, walk straight into the Shopper’s fast…I was not an agreeable participant…went right up to the person (victim) with no hesitation, barely took it (knife) out of the bag…My arm was in L-shaped.
“The voice said, if you mean it do it…The voice and movements raised my hand, pushed forward…It was like the knife was sticking to my hand and couldn’t be dropped…I thought this was just an activity, didn’t think it was legal or otherwise because I was spending all my energy fighting the voice and communications…fighting the invisible entity…As soon as it happened I wanted to get away…traveled back home…The voice said I should have kept the knife.”
http://youtube.com/watch?v=eNRntUzjIBs
http://torontosun.com/news/local-new...ife-on-counter














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One might think we should be blaming LIE-berals for this legal MESS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


There is no question the stabber is NUTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


But the REAL QUESTION is this: HOW IN HELL did this LUNATIC slip past the LIE-beral "security checks" that are supposed



to catch crazies and radicals?????????????


LIE-berals LIE to us about immigration issues at every turn!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Here is yet another article illustrating why it is not wise to let large numbers of devout Muslims immigrate to Canada as their most basic and fundamental values clash strongly with our Cdn values. With some comments of my own in brackets):

Girls as young as 9 can marry, Turkish religious body's Islamic glossary suggests.

(And is it not rather creepy that even though Turkey is the most modern and progressive of Muslim nations- they can still produce this radical CRAP?)

Associated Press. Published: January 4, 2018. Updated: January 4, 2018 9:32 AM EST

Filed Under: Toronto SUN/ News/ World

By Suzan Fraser, THE ASSOCIATED PRESS

ANKARA, Turkey — A suggestion by Turkey’s state religious affairs body that girls as young as nine could marry has sparked an outcry, including calls for an inquiry and the dismantling of the scandal-tainted organization.

(Turkey is a country dedicated to the separation of church and state- in a fairly western model but clearly radical Muslim forces are at work there- just as they are in all other western and middle eastern countries!)

Its online glossary of Islamic terms, which has since been removed, defined marriage as an institution that saves a person from adultery and said girls can marry when they reach puberty — as early as age nine, Turkish media reports said.

Our directorate has never in its history approved of child marriages and never will.
Diyanet

(But the Diyanet definition of “child” sounds rather close to pedophilia!)

Turkey’s main opposition party has called for an investigation into the Directorate of Religious Affairs, or Diyanet, accusing it of inciting underage marriages. Social media users joined a campaign demanding the closure of the body that oversees mosques and imams and has frequently courted controversy.

Diyanet vehemently denied approving underage marriages, saying that “our directorate has never in its history approved of child marriages and never will.”

Deputy Prime Minister Bekir Bozdag accused the media of manipulating definitions in the glossary to make the government look as though it supports child marriages. Bozdag added that it was the religious body’s duty to interpret terms according to Islamic laws, not civic laws.

The Diyanet previously caused fury for issuing an online fatwa, or religious ruling, suggesting that a father can lust after his daughter. That fatwa was quickly retracted. In other rulings, the Diyanet has said Muslims cannot marry non-Muslims and that engaged couples cannot be left alone or hold hands.

(One has to pity the poor moderate Muslims who have to live down the more ridiculous fatwas being issued by crackpots who seem to want deliberately to feed the most ugly of Muslim stereotypes! And one has to worry about Canada after a report a year back by 2 reporters who told us that the only voices at Cdn mosques and Muslim schools are radical ones- shouting down the moderates!)

The legal age for marriage in Turkey is 18. Women’s rights groups say underage marriage is widespread despite the laws and accuse authorities of not taking sufficient steps to protect girls from becoming “child brides.”

In 2016, the government scrapped a proposal that critics said would have allowed men accused of statutory rape to go free if they were married to their victims, following similar outrage.

(In some Muslim Sharia Law versions of woman’ rights, a woman who accuses a man of rape must provide FOUR MALE WITNESSES or else she will be charged with PERJURY! Some Muslims certainyl do have a more moderate view of womens issues but the great concern is that Our idiot Boy Justin is not doing nearly enough to weed out the crazy ones!)
 
Christian
#77
Is Sharia law in south Syria of the end of war.

Islamist group IS has controlled south Syria in this times rest of new times.
 
Christian
#78
Can only find this order of the end of the war in Syria.

 
MHz
#79
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HG7I4oniOyA
Annie Lennox - Why

Is the song about a singer that only wants to sing but in order to do that to an audience certain conditions must be met, Taking advantage of her natural beauty was the cost for her 'fame and fortune'. She is not an exception, it is a blanket requirement and the payment start with something humiliating and that is anything that is out of a persons natural character.


The singer below also had her 'dreams' brought 'a little lower' just to show it was easy to do and nobody escaped.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8DE5U6npkQ
Barbra Streisand Woman in Love



I don't have the writer's names so it could have been done by different singers at some time.
 
MHz
#80
Miss Kitty on the Gunsmoke series was always a 'lady', check out the clips with sound.
 
spilledthebeer
#81
Quote: Originally Posted by MHz View Post

Miss Kitty on the Gunsmoke series was always a 'lady', check out the clips with sound.


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MHz and Christian have slid from discussing Syria and Isis over to talk of the moral virtue of MISS KITTY FROM the old tv show Gunsmoke????????????


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Do the premier members of the Tinfoil Hat Brigade realize Miss Kitty is FICTION????????????????
 
MHz
#82
Beavis and Butthole reruns over.. Your version has the US Army locked and loaded against women and kids. You do know there were no Muslims in Gunsmoke but you can turn it into a racist piece. I can hardly wait till the dust is as thick here as it is on the moon.


What part of making 2 threads about the Indians in the north and the stress they are under gets me called an 'asshole' from somebody who claims to be connected with those people in a lot deeper way than I am.
Welcome to the collective loyalty oath type of thing?? When one Chief was in a meeting with the Government stooges his wife died of pneumonia. Whitey would have been high-fiveing each other as soon as they were alone. You would fit right in with those boys and so would Walnut and the rest of there collective. I wonder why he passed up on a socialism dig when mothers were selling their children rather than watch them die of starvation. The collective should be doing high-fives should they not, after all that is the whole point of sanctions isn't it?
 
spilledthebeer
#83
Quote: Originally Posted by MHz View Post

Beavis and Butthole reruns over.. Your version has the US Army locked and loaded against women and kids. You do know there were no Muslims in Gunsmoke but you can turn it into a racist piece. I can hardly wait till the dust is as thick here as it is on the moon.


What part of making 2 threads about the Indians in the north and the stress they are under gets me called an 'asshole' from somebody who claims to be connected with those people in a lot deeper way than I am.
Welcome to the collective loyalty oath type of thing?? When one Chief was in a meeting with the Government stooges his wife died of pneumonia. Whitey would have been high-fiveing each other as soon as they were alone. You would fit right in with those boys and so would Walnut and the rest of there collective. I wonder why he passed up on a socialism dig when mothers were selling their children rather than watch them die of starvation. The collective should be doing high-fives should they not, after all that is the whole point of sanctions isn't it?


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Pity MHz- the Clueless Goof!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Your keeprs obviously retrain you so often that you do not get any true understanding of the world at this time!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Consider:


File this one under AMAZING! The CBC has reported the following-and I have added some comments of my own in brackets):

First Nations teen solves remote community's drinking water problems.
A 19-year-old from North Spirit Lake First Nation is the key to solving a boil water advisory in place in his community for nearly as long as he has been alive.
Jody Porter/CBC tells us that Quentin Rae, 19, tests water samples at the North Spirit Lake First Nation in his new role as water plant operator. Quentin Rae, 19, is the water plant operator in North Spirit Lake First Nation.

The remote First Nation, about 800 kilometers northwest of Thunder Bay, Ont., has been under a boil water advisory for 14 years.

Now, a unique program spearheaded by the Northern Chiefs Council (Keewatinook Okimakanak), is allowing people like Quentin Rae to take the initiative and the responsibility for providing clean water in their own communities.

"I have to take care of the plant, make sure chlorine gets in the water to clean the bacteria," said Rae with a smile during his first week on the job at the end of April.
Quentin Rae, 19, files the water monitoring reports at the North Spirit Lake First Nation water plant. "I just graduated last year and they gave me the job."

The high school diploma is the prerequisite for the training provided by Northern Chiefs Council that will provide Rae with his operator certificate. Once the water plant in North Spirit Lake has a certified operator, the boil water advisory can be lifted.

But the program goes beyond the training.
'Think about a 19-year-old like Quentin having the safety of every member of this community on him,' says public works manager Barry Strachan. We can't let him do that alone, we need to support him ' says public works manager Barry Strachan. You think about a 19-year-old like Quentin having the safety of every member of this community on him — we can't let him do that alone, we need to support him."

The support comes in the form of a high-tech monitoring system installed in five remote First Nations in 2015. It provides Strachan up-to-the-second updates on water quality, sent to his office in Dryden, Ont. He can then help the local technicians work through the problem over the phone.

"We want the community to own and fix the problems," Strachan said.

"The best way to build the confidence in their own ability to run these systems is to let them do it and support them while they are."

Strachan admits First Nations need sound infrastructure in place first, before the monitoring and training system will work. The program has already resulted in removing boil water advisories in three other northern Ontario First Nations.

Meanwhile, community leaders in North Spirit Lake are pleased to be able to offer new opportunities to the young people.

"That young fella, he just graduated from Grade 12 and we gave him an opportunity and he jumped at it," said deputy chief Donald Campbell.

"I think he's very excited and he'll be a good asset for our community as he grows and learns."

Rae expects to complete his training for his certificate in June.

"It feels all right," he said. "I'm happy."

But Rae laughs when asked whether he sees the opportunity as a "job for life."

"I don't know," he says. "It's my first job ever."

(I have to say it’s a remarkable CBC report-just imagine-a young fellow from a reserve actually graduated from high school and then took advantage of the FREE training offered by govt and now he has the skills needed to help his community! AND HE has a steady job out of it too!!!! Who would have imagined such a happy outcome simply from going to school and gaining a skill?)

(Life on the average First Nation Reserve is so aweful that govt cannot find qualified white people to go to such places and operate the water treatment plants. And of course only 25 percent of natives actually graduate from high school and very few of them go on to post secondary education so the number of qualified natives is disturbingly low, especially when drugs and alcohol take their toll on `worker` attitude!)

(Add in endemic corruption on many reserves where money intended to keep water plants running is often syphoned off for stupid reasons like sending native hockey teams to tournaments in places like California or for sending native groups on Caribbean cruises; then add INSANE salaries for band councils-in one New Brunswick case a band chief was being paid Five Hundred Thousand dollars per year to over see a band of less than 500 people and it quickly becomes obvious why there is no money for clean water on so many reserves!)

(And sadly, even when there IS clean water, it is often not used. On the same day that CBC reported the good news about Quentin Rae, CBC ALSO ran a report out of the very troubled Kashchewan reserve- it seems a number of kids have been air lifted out to hospitals in the south to treat horrible skin rashes. I am not a doctor but the last time I saw a rash like that shown on the face of the girl in the news report, that rash was on the body of a NEGLECTED boy who I KNEW had not been supplied with clean clothes or a hot bath in months!)

(I have to ask if anything really works on the average native reserve. Especially since govt has AGAIN airlifted 300 people out of Kashechewan due to the YEARLY flooding! And govt may have to do as it did last year and airlift as many as 1200 people out due to the flooding-which occurs EVERY YEAR! WHY build a town in a place guaranteed to FLOOD EVERY YEAR?)

(What IS the cost to fly 500 or a 1000 people plus their clothing and pets out and back every year? A 1000 Km trip to some place like Thunder Bay? And then put them up in hotels? Why not fly them out and LEAVE THEM OUT-some place high and dry? Or should we assume this is a native revenge thing-making a MESS that white people get to pay for? No wonder CBC thinks its newsworthy when a young guy like Quentin Rae shows responsibility and common sense! Its so utterly out of character for so many Reserve inhabitants and the loonie LIE-beral loving leftists egging them on!)

(The worst of it is the reserve houses flood so often BECAUSE govt let the natives build the houses-and they took a little short cut that NO WHITE MAN would be allowed! When white men build in such a place-so close to sea level-they START by bulldozing up a nice HIGH pad of sand and gravel and build the house on top of that-out of reach of yearly flood waters. Native house builders did not bother with such an elementary step and the houses now flood every spring due to their elevation-which happens to be an average of 6ft above Hudson Bay sea level-according to an old Toronto (Red) Star report; so every spring one little ice jam in the river floods huge chunks of reserve land and houses! Oh well, its only white mans money that is paying for all this.....and it makes for nice photo ops for Our Brainless Boy who enjoys taking `selfies` with the victimized natives.)

(It was Jean Chretien as Dept if Indian Affairs minister under LIE-beral leader Pierre Trudope who first encouraged a bunch of drugged, drunken, emotionally depressed, chronically un-employed sots living on remote reserves that they were `first nations`.....and given the array of problems endemic to a typical reserve one ought to say `First Nation` with a sneer. LIE-berals are responsible for this mess-encouraging natives that we can and will pay them whatever they want whenever they desire it. But isn’t it nice that some natives (like Quentin Rae) understand reality and scorn the siren song of `free` money from LIE-berals! AND take responsibility for their lives!)

(It is entirely obvious that natives on reserves need some sort of help but what they DON’T need is grossly misplaced sympathy from air head social workers; nor do they need any encouragement to continue down their current corrupt and drunken and too often suicidal path!)
 
MHz
#84
(It was Jean Chretien as Dept if Indian Affairs minister under LIE-beral leader Pierre Trudope who first encouraged a bunch of drugged, drunken, emotionally depressed, chronically un-employed sots living on remote reserves that they were `first nations`.....and given the array of problems endemic to a typical reserve one ought to say `First Nation` with a sneer. LIE-berals are responsible for this mess-encouraging natives that we can and will pay them whatever they want whenever they desire it. But isn’t it nice that some natives (like Quentin Rae) understand reality and scorn the siren song of `free` money from LIE-berals! AND take responsibility for their lives!)


Who was saying they could not do better on their own?

You have to allow them to communicate with other places that Government stooges. Just about every one should be close to Military Medic because they are in the field. Sitting and watching an injured friend because the God keeps them off balance. Holding back first aid is a crime, giving them the wrong advice is criminal and immoral. If you support you are part of the problem, plain and fuking simple.


14 years of bad water and it wasn't fixed?? I'll be the mold issue wasn't fixed either. Clean water and people still getting sick would be a hard question for JT wouldn't it?? Maybe he should be up there for the photo op before the next election.
 
Hoid
#85
not legally responsible / not guilty

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toron...dict-1.4893553
 
DaSleeper
#86
She didn't yell out allahu akbar.....so everything is OK
 
MHz
+1
#87
Accidentally hit the heart though?? I don't think so. Please tell me she isn't part of the Canada Social Services network.
 
spilledthebeer
#88
Quote: Originally Posted by MHz View Post

(It was Jean Chretien as Dept if Indian Affairs minister under LIE-beral leader Pierre Trudope who first encouraged a bunch of drugged, drunken, emotionally depressed, chronically un-employed sots living on remote reserves that they were `first nations`.....and given the array of problems endemic to a typical reserve one ought to say `First Nation` with a sneer. LIE-berals are responsible for this mess-encouraging natives that we can and will pay them whatever they want whenever they desire it. But isn’t it nice that some natives (like Quentin Rae) understand reality and scorn the siren song of `free` money from LIE-berals! AND take responsibility for their lives!)


Who was saying they could not do better on their own?

You have to allow them to communicate with other places that Government stooges. Just about every one should be close to Military Medic because they are in the field. Sitting and watching an injured friend because the God keeps them off balance. Holding back first aid is a crime, giving them the wrong advice is criminal and immoral. If you support you are part of the problem, plain and fuking simple.


14 years of bad water and it wasn't fixed?? I'll be the mold issue wasn't fixed either. Clean water and people still getting sick would be a hard question for JT wouldn't it?? Maybe he should be up there for the photo op before the next election.


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Sadly- where Cdn natives are concerned- NOTHING EVER REALLY GETS FIXED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Natives themselves are now the major obstacle to any forward movement!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Consider this sh+tty mess:


Did anybody happen to see the evening news flash of early June/2017? The one about the native reserve house full of sewage? The BRIEF report was produced by LIE-beral loving news media dedicated to political correctness and ignored more questions than it answered!


The worst of it is there has NEVER been any follow up- mainly because LIE-berals DO NOT want to admit what a bunch of screwups our natives have become! Did they ever get the house repaired or replaced? Are they still LIVING in the Sh+T House? WHO KNOWS!!!!!!!!!!!!!


First- there were the sad images of a bungalow built on concrete piles in the style common in the north where a house with full basement is not suitable either due to bed rock near the surface or because of issues with permafrost- a full basement can hold in heat and cause the house to literally sink into the rapidly thawing grown! Hence the concrete piles for foundation.

But a house on piles like that has a flaw- the plumbing MUST be very carefully insulated or it WILL freeze since the crawl space under the house is not heated nor insulated! And some pipes must pass through this freezing zone to reach the septic tank system. And frozen pipes are more likely if the family is poor and thus scrimping on heating costs- the lower the temperature in the house- the less heat leaks from the house to keep pipes under the floor from freezing.

News media tells us there are 10 people living in a rather crowded 3 bedroom bungalow and such a crowd might be more than the septic system can handle? So did the sewage pipe either simply froze and ruptured or maybe it clogged up and then froze and ruptured. In any case the pipe broke and raw sewage began leaking and pooling in a disgusting mess UNDER the house.

The residents say it was not too bad till the spring- at which point the mess thawed fully and began to ferment with maggots swarming everywhere and the reek becoming an eye watering horror. The band council was approached for help but none was forthcoming for some reason?

A white business man heard of the family plight and offered to DONATE a new prefab house but things are stalled for reasons the media do not want to discuss. Both business man and band council blame each other for the lack of progress on a new house. Perhaps the businessman wants the band to pay for shipping since he has stepped up and donated the house? And maybe the band figures the house should be shipped for free? WE don’t know and LIE-beral minded news medai seems to think such questions are NOT important?

And there are other questions too- such as why the family did not stop flushing the toilet immediately after the pipe broke? AS a guy who has lived in exactly this sort of house I know that a white guy will not continue using a toilet that is poisoning his house and air! The reserve is out in the forest and the first thing a white guy would do is do `it` in the forest like the bears- or at least go find a bucket that can be used in the heated bathroom and DUMPED in the forest! As for bathing- there is a community centre and why not shower there for a while instead of adding to the cess pool under the house? Sensible people who don’t like living over a foul sewage lagoon generally find ways to avoid adding to the pool daily! But natives are not like white people- they apparently are comfortable just to keep mindlessly adding to the filth and whining because no white people will help them!

And now that warm weather is here, no plumber wants to go wading through all that filth to fix a broken pipe! And there is the value of the bucket method- the swamp under the house will dry out of not added to daily and it will become possible to get under and do repairs without losing your lunch! A plumber might want to put down plastic sheeting to avoid soft and squishy areas but it IS possible to do the repairs without getting mired in filth! And of course white people would not simply abandon a house because it has frozen and ruptured pipes. A house is costly and not to be simply written off on a whim! Not before serious repair efforts are made!

The great majority of houses on a typical reserve are built BY the local people after they have been through govt training programs. They KNOW how to fix and repair the house- if only somebody would give them some motivation! But gee, brand new pipes are so much more pleasant to work with than dirty old ruptured ones so its much better to whine that whites are bigots forcing natives to live in sub standard housing than to take any logical action!
 
MHz
#89
Quote: Originally Posted by DaSleeper View Post

She didn't yell out allahu akbar.....so everything is OK

When did that become a Canadian saying? Seems like you are the one wanting to yell it out. Guards, . . .
 
spilledthebeer
#90
Quote: Originally Posted by MHz View Post

When did that become a Canadian saying? Seems like you are the one wanting to yell it out. Guards, . . .


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POOR STUPID MHz!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


He is far to busy telling us why we should hate Jews.................


who DO NOT ATTACK CDNS................................


while at the same time Mhz tells us lies about Muslims who come to our country to attack us.................


so he is too busy to join in the chorus of "Allah Akbar"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



And of course he blames the west because Jews chose to return to their ancient tribal homeland!!!!!!!!!!!


No failure is cever rthe fault of Muslims!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


God is with the Muslims.........except on the battlefield.......or in the negotiating chamber........or in the news media.......or in public opinion polls.........


God has forsaken the blood lusting Muslims.......and they think He is just being SHY about revealing himself!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

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