Tesla's electric cars aren't as green as you might think


DaSleeper
#241
Quote: Originally Posted by spilledthebeer View Post

Oh dear me- all automatic devices have an automatic over ride you say?

Beside posting diarrhea

You have reading comprehension problem




Quote: Originally Posted by DaSleeper View Post

Even the most sophisticated automatic devices have a manual override!

 
petros
#242
Electric cars aren't cheaper in Wetaskiwin.
 
Hoid
#243
expecting the white nationalist climate change deniers to actually read anything is probably a forlorn hope.
 
captain morgan
#244
Quote: Originally Posted by Bar Sinister View Post

As usual you didn't read the article. It says nothing about trans-Atlantic flights.


I see that reading isn't exactly your strong suit.

maybe you should just stick to supporting child slave labour


Quote: Originally Posted by captain morgan View Post

Enjoy your trans-Pacific flight.

.... RIP

 
pgs
+1
#245
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

expecting the white nationalist climate change deniers to actually read anything is probably a forlorn hope.

Are you white ? Do you deny that climate and weather are interchangeable? Are you real ?
 
Bar Sinister
#246
Quote: Originally Posted by captain morgan View Post

I see that reading isn't exactly your strong suit.

maybe you should just stick to supporting child slave labour


Chils labour? That's your schtick. I don't own a cell phone.



Maybe you should just stick to supporting poisoned air and water.
 
pgs
#247
Quote: Originally Posted by Bar Sinister View Post

Chils labour? That's your schtick. I don't own a cell phone.



Maybe you should just stick to supporting poisoned air and water.

But we are cleaning the air and water . Around my neck of the woods anyway .
 
Hoid
#248
Global Investment in Wind and Solar Energy Is Outshining Fossil Fuels
In 2016, about $297 billion was spent on renewables—compared with $143 billion on new nuclear, coal, gas and fuel-oil power plants,


https://www.wsj.com/articles/global-...els-1528718400

By Russell Gold
Updated June 11, 2018 10:21 a.m. ET
Global spending on renewable energy is outpacing investment in electricity from coal, natural gas and nuclear power plants, driven by falling costs of producing wind and solar power.
More than half of the worlds added power generating capacity is from alternative.



And Canada is still in dithering along with pipelines.

We are going to get left behind.
 
spilledthebeer
+1
#249
Quote: Originally Posted by captain morgan View Post

Enjoy your trans-Pacific flight.

.... RIP


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


I LIKE THAT ONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1


MAYBE WE SHOULD BUY HOID A TICKET FOR THAT FIRST ELECTRIC PLANE FLIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!





You just KNOW he would have to be drugged and sedated to get him aboard!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Cant you just see his panic stricken little face pressed to the window looking out on the world in despair?


Wondering where and how so much LIE-beral policy went so very far wrong!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
pgs
+1
#250
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

Global Investment in Wind and Solar Energy Is Outshining Fossil Fuels
In 2016, about $297 billion was spent on renewables—compared with $143 billion on new nuclear, coal, gas and fuel-oil power plants,


https://www.wsj.com/articles/global-...els-1528718400

By Russell Gold
Updated June 11, 2018 10:21 a.m. ET
Global spending on renewable energy is outpacing investment in electricity from coal, natural gas and nuclear power plants, driven by falling costs of producing wind and solar power.
More than half of the worlds added power generating capacity is from alternative.



And Canada is still in dithering along with pipelines.

We are going to get left behind.

Good , that means we are maintaining some sanity and are not joining the race to the bottom .
 
Bar Sinister
#251
Quote: Originally Posted by spilledthebeer View Post

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


I LIKE THAT ONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1


MAYBE WE SHOULD BUY HOID A TICKET FOR THAT FIRST ELECTRIC PLANE FLIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!





You just KNOW he would have to be drugged and sedated to get him aboard!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Cant you just see his panic stricken little face pressed to the window looking out on the world in despair?


Wondering where and how so much LIE-beral policy went so very far wrong!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


I'd use an electric plane. Ticket prices are supposed to cost much less and they would be perfect for short haul flights within most nations or to nations that are close to one another like Europe. Of course, if it is your preference you could continue to pay more for you ticket and ride a conventional jet aircraft. And as usual the situation has nothing to do with liberalism and everything to do with innovation and the market economy.
 
taxslave
#252
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

Global Investment in Wind and Solar Energy Is Outshining Fossil Fuels
In 2016, about $297 billion was spent on renewables—compared with $143 billion on new nuclear, coal, gas and fuel-oil power plants,


https://www.wsj.com/articles/global-...els-1528718400

By Russell Gold
Updated June 11, 2018 10:21 a.m. ET
Global spending on renewable energy is outpacing investment in electricity from coal, natural gas and nuclear power plants, driven by falling costs of producing wind and solar power.
More than half of the worlds added power generating capacity is from alternative.



And Canada is still in dithering along with pipelines.

We are going to get left behind.

Most of our power has always been generated by renewables for over 100 years. Making us far ahead of the rest of the world. Site C alone is over 6 billion $$$ in renewable power while the rest of the world dithers around squandering billions trying to make the wind blowing steady and the sun to shine 24/7.
Even the project we are wrapping up in Campbell River is over a billion replacing 6 ancient generators with 3 new ones that produce the same power with 20% less water.
And all the equipment required for construction runs on diesel. Most of the equipment required to obtain and transport the materials for your useless whirlygigs also require diesel. The backup power generators to ensure your inefficient wind and solar power is not interupted run on Natural Gas or Coal. If we don't build pipelines we will truly get left behind.
The really smart money would be working on a way to transport coal by pipeline.

Quote: Originally Posted by vita2007 View Post

We have electric cars, too, its are becoming very popular. Whatever you say, the pollution are less, and harm less to nature. I have already tried to drive different cars rental24h.com. When I see the rental cars then take electric cars.

That depends on how the power to charge your lectric toy is generated and wheat her you want to go more than a couple of blocks.
 
petros
+1
#253
How did they solve the battery killing cold problem by testing on the ground?
 
spilledthebeer
#254
Quote: Originally Posted by petros View Post

How did they solve the battery killing cold problem by testing on the ground?


Pity the poor LIE-berals- their world is collapsing as we speak! Hoid- I do hope you got your order in for your electric Toy vehicle before the election and got the price nailed down because there will NOT be a lot of LIE-beral money available for electric Toy subsidies in future!


And here is an article explaining WHY so much money is going into renewable toys- with LIE-berals REFUSING to tell us how much o0f that money is OUR TAX MONEY! So much money is being thrown around by govt that even oil companies are going green! This is LIE-beral fakery and vote buying on a fabulous scale!



I present here an article written by Lorrie Goldstein of Toronto Sun newspaper and it ought to be MUST READING for any person who is employed in the private sector now or who hopes to be employed there some time in the future! Goldstein has summed up our looming LIE-beral designed economic disaster nicely but I have added some comments of my own in brackets).

Wynne’s climate change strategy rewards big business while punishing average Ontarians

(I say isn’t that amusing? LIE-berals sneered at Conservatives because they cut corporate taxes in order to lure jobs here and yet here are LIE-berals just GIVING carbon credits-bought with OUR tax dollars- to big corporations in order to persuade them not to close up shop and leave because of LIE-beral environmental tax and spend madness!)

By Lorrie Goldstein, Toronto Sun. First posted: Wednesday, June 08, 2016 06:19 PM EDT | Updated: Wednesday, June 08, 2016 06:24 PM EDT

The funniest thing about Premier Kathleen Wynne’s unveiling of Ontario’s plan to fight global warming Wednesday wasn’t her observation that the weather was freezing on June 8, before she hightailed it out of the Evergreen Brick Works in a gas-guzzling SUV.

The funniest thing was the comment of her climate change minister, Glen Murray, to the Toronto Star the day before that Ontario’s $8.3-billion climate change plan is “a big basket of carrots and no sticks.”

Because it’s only a basket of carrots if you’re one of the more than 100 major industrial greenhouse gas emitters that will be getting free carbon credits — in essence, free money — from the Wynne government under its cap-and-trade legislation, which kicks in Jan. 1.

But it’s all stick, as in bad news, if you’re an average taxpayer who, among other countless absurdities in this plan, will be subsidizing rich people who buy expensive, not-ready-for-prime time electric cars, as well as paying for the free electricity they’ll get to recharge them.

What’s really going on here is an unholy alliance between big business, which is praising the Wynne plan in return for billions of dollars in public subsidies paid for by taxpayers, and so-called environmentalists, who are cheering a plan they know is grossly unfair to the public, but which they figure is better than nothing.

They’re wrong because for the average Ontarian, this plan is worse than nothing.

(A good many of the more rabid environmental activists are quite comfortable with the idea of forcing us to live in bark wigwams and having us cook our `meal` of Dandelion Greens over a smokey fire of dried Moose droppings-ASSUMING they are willing to let us collect the droppings instead of letting them decompose properly into the `natural` world!)

Its carbon pricing component will raise the cost of living, increasing the prices of virtually all goods and services, in return for no significant decreases in greenhouse gas emissions linked to climate change.

(Wynnes carbon cap is really nothing but a GIANT slush fund she will use to BRIBE civil service Hogs to continue VOTING for her! This is an election platform and has NOTHING to do with environment!)

It will drive hundreds of thousands more Ontarians — particularly seniors on fixed incomes — into energy poverty, where they spend more than 10% of their income just to power their homes.

It’s built on a financial house of cards — North America’s cap-and-trade market, which collapsed last month, resulting in California and Quebec, Ontario’s two new partners in cap-and-trade, receiving a mere 11% of the $700 million they anticipated in their latest auction of carbon credits.

(IN spite of industry scorning the plan, bankrupt California politicians are making plans to kick up the price of carbon credits by about 10 percent per year indefinitely into the future-with our LIE-beral Wynne-bag and her cronies tied into that scheme!)

Ontario expects to make $1.9 billion annually to start when it joins this carbon trading market next year, and while it’s gamed the system so that it will make money initially, inevitably the carbon trading market will collapse, just as it did in North America last month and as it did in Europe following the 2008 global recession.

And average Ontarians will be left holding the bag, as the Liberals will either increase taxes or the provincial debt to pay for the climate change schemes they announced Wednesday.

(A second auction of carbon credits was later held and sold out-nothing like a chocie between BUY or CLOSE your doors to motivate companies to buy! In spite of this forced racket, LIE-berals now admit the amount of money collected with be rather less than expected! Nothing like a CEO stating “give us credits free or we close shop and move south of the border with our jobs” to pry some more free credits out of LIE-berals!)

The easiest way to explain this looming disaster is that all previous Liberal scandals — eHealth, Ornge, cancelled gas plants and, as we learned on Wednesday, the $342-million deficit left over from the Pan Am Games — pale in comparison to the losses taxpayers are going to face under the climate change strategy Wynne unveiled Wednesday.

In a word, it’s frightening.

(LIE-berals truly believe they are the natural ruling party and they are prepared to make us pay ANY price so they cab cling to power by buying votes from select pressure groups such as Muslims and civil service Hogs!)
 

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