What is life?

socratus
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WHAT IS LIFE?
In my opinion the life is first of all
energy + matter.
Take the simplest atom hydrogen: electron+proton.
This atom is primary particle for farther material evolution.
We don't know what an electron is.
''We know electron by what it does, not by what it is''-
- somebody wrote.
We don't know where proton come from.
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Life is*also five senses plus the thought.
The analysis* of the senses + thoughts shows that
they psychologically very subjective conceptions.
But somehow modern science were created by
objective laws and thoughts.
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Now try to explain the puzzle: what is life?
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Hoid
#2
It's like a bowl of cherries
 
Cliffy
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Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

It's like a bowl of cherries

Or a box of chocolates.

" I dreamed I was a 17 year old male. I couldn't leave the thing alone. I wanted to screw everything. I woke up realizing that the only thing saving them from my mighty penis was the fact that I had 100x a day for five years to use it and get some kind of control by the time of reaching full adult male strength. I discovered the penile brain of a pubescent male is real and they start out with no control over it.
- Anji Hope
 
Danbones
#4
A bowl or a box!





A.I.s live for those!
 
socratus
#5
very thoughtful comments, thanks
 
socratus
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U.S. scientists take step toward creating artificial life
SCIENCE NEWS NOVEMBER 30, 2017 / 2:19 AM

For example, in natural DNA, base pairs are attracted to each other
through the bonding of hydrogen atoms.
Romesberg’s X and Y bases are attracted through an entirely
different process, which prevents them from accidentally bonding with natural bases.

And because cells cannot make their own X and Y without the addition
of certain chemicals, the semi-synthetic organisms cannot live outside of a laboratory.

“They can’t escape,” Romesberg said. “There’s no ‘Jurassic Park’ scenario.”
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-s...-idUSKBN1DT2ZB

Can these semi-synthetic organisms live independently on Earth ?
Are these semi-synthetic organisms our future parents?
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Walter
#7
Capable of reacting to stimulus.
 
socratus
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Quote: Originally Posted by Walter View Post

Capable of reacting to stimulus.

These semi-synthetic organisms cannot make their own X and Y
without the addition of certain chemicals.
Who can add new chemicals?
Chemist.
Themselves they don't capable of reacting to stimulus.
Semi-synthetic organisms cannot create life.
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Last edited by socratus; Apr 10th, 2018 at 09:41 PM..
 
Hoid
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Quote: Originally Posted by socratus View Post

These semi-synthetic organisms cannot make their own X and Y
without the addition of certain chemicals.
Who can add new chemicals?
Chemist.
Themselves they don't capable of reacting to stimulus.
Semi-synthetic organisms cannot create life.
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we do not create life either
 
socratus
#10
"Philosophers ponder the meaning of life.
At least, that is the stereotype.
When I risk admitting to a stranger that I teach philosophy
for a living and face the question ‘What is the meaning of life?’,
I have a ready response: we figured that out in the 1980s,
but we have to keep it secret or we’d be out of a job;
I could tell you, but then I’d have to kill you.
In fact, professional philosophers rarely ask the question
and, when they do, they often dismiss it as nonsense."
/by Kieran Setiya, professor of philosophy /
https://aeon.co/ideas/philosophers-s...eaning-of-life
 
socratus
#11
TOPIC: Downward causation:
George Ellis at the 6th FQXi Meeting
FQXi BLOGS, September 2, 2019
https://fqxi.org/community/forum/topic/3322
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CAUSATION: ''a top and bottom''
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'' . . . he is not entirely convinced that there is a top or bottom. ''
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At the most fundamental level, upward and downward causation
must not only both exist, but must exist in a very specific form.
/ Robert H McEachern /
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Bottom-up causation can presumably only work if we know
everything about the bottom, but we have no certain knowledge
that there is a bottom, that there are not, indeed,
"turtles all the way down".
/ Peter Warwick Morgan /
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( . . . we don't even know if there *is* a bottom)
/ Blogger Ian Durham /
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We do know that there is a bottom and we know exactly
what it looks like - a single bit of information
(Shannon's definition of a bit, not physicist's)
/ Robert H McEachern /
https://fqxi.org/community/forum/topic/3322
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Cliffy
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Cliffy
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Cliffy
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Cannuck
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Hehehehehe....Jim always cracked me up