Open military to non citizens?


JLM
No Party Affiliation
#361
Quote: Originally Posted by Curious Cdn View Post

You can't even read, you ignorant old git.


And you can't spell or compose a proper sentence so we are even.
 
Tecumsehsbones
#362
Quote: Originally Posted by JLM View Post

Fighting wars is just one means of serving the planet and the people on it. There are hundreds of different ways to serve, some care for infirm and elderly, some raise money to improve things in their community, some drive sick and elderly to their appointments, some walk people's dogs, some council disturbed children, so the people who destroy people with guns don't need to get overly proud of themselves. There's an old saying "it takes a bigger man to walk away from a fight than to engage in one".

I'm sure you "would have found another way to serve" in the World Wars as well.
 
JLM
No Party Affiliation
#363
Quote: Originally Posted by Tecumsehsbones View Post

I'm sure you "would have found another way to serve" in the World Wars as well.


Yeah, I suppose there is always a demand for surveyors in war.
 
Curious Cdn
Conservative
#364
Quote: Originally Posted by JLM View Post

Yeah, I suppose there is always a demand for surveyors in war.

In the Army, they were known as "FOOs" or Forward Observation Officers and it was one of the most dangerous things that Canadian soldiers did.
 
Twin_Moose
Conservative
+1
#365
Quote: Originally Posted by MHz View Post

You spelled 'Russian jets' wrong. BTW, an F-18 is not a slouch

Write the editor and correct him
 
DaSleeper
+2
#366
Quote: Originally Posted by Curious Cdn View Post

Oui.

Addendum to my lst post
It also doesn't mean that those who served can't be as experts in asshology, as those who didn't....
 
spilledthebeer
#367
Quote: Originally Posted by MHz View Post

Considering the size of the 'wilderness' just what is being protected.
Spare parts will keep our fleet flying, spare part from the us will not be happening. Ask Cuba how that works.
We have some White Helmets that we could sent to that trouble spot to the south.


POOR STUPID MHZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


By trying to support LIE-berals with his CRAP- he ends up shooting LIE-berals in both feet!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


He does not realize that Pierre Trudeau bought about 60 F 18`s and we are now down to about a dozen that can still fly!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


With about six of them still in good enough shape for something resembling combat flying!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


ALL THE OTHERS have already been worn out and cannibalized for use to keep the other relics flying!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


In one thing ONLY- MHz is right- NO MORE SPARE PARTS FROM YANKEES !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Simply because F18 is OBSOLETE and Yankees will NOT BE MAKING MORE PARTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And MHz promotes the shameless LIE that Cuba is bankrupt because Yankees would not trade with them!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And what Socialist swine MEAN by sneering at Yankees is that Yankees would not let Cuban Soviets SUCKER Yankees!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Cuba was at liberty to trade with the ENTIRE WORLD- if only their Soviet Socialist economy could ever produce something useful!!!!!!!!!!!


And we know the only thing Socialists make well are guns and kangaroo courts for show trials of their enemies!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
NZDoug
Free Thinker
#368
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

The F35 or whatever fighter they decide on will be a massive waste of tax dollars.
Just like the new warships.
We are hopelessly married to a military model that is obsolete and worthless

Merkel has spoken
https://www.defensenews.com/global/e...reaking%20News
 
JamesBondo
+1
#369
why don't you call it what it is....opening military to mercenaries
 
NZDoug
Free Thinker
#370
Quote: Originally Posted by JamesBondo View Post

why don't you call it what it is....opening military to mercenaries

https://www.defensenews.com/global/e...king%20NewsIts
It's the Art of the Deal.
 
Tecumsehsbones
#371
Quote: Originally Posted by JamesBondo View Post

why don't you call it what it is....opening military to mercenaries

On behalf of the non-citizens I served with, go f*ck yourself, Jody.
 
MHz
#372
Quote: Originally Posted by JamesBondo View Post

why don't you call it what it is....opening military to mercenaries

There have always been well paying positions available to x-military, especially if you lived outside the US. 'Soldier of fortune' was the term after WWII. West Point or equal is entry level schooling.
 
Curious Cdn
Conservative
#373
Quote: Originally Posted by JamesBondo View Post

why don't you call it what it is....opening military to mercenaries

When Pearl Harbour was attacked, 10,000 American "mercenaries" were already serving in Canada's forces. The came here and enlisted to fight Nazi Germany when the USA was a
neutral on the sidelines.

The same thing happened for the same reason in WWI.

Canada was at war with Germany for a full 1/10th of the 20th Century. Our neighbours for only half that time ...

All those mercenaries ...

http://www.ibiblio.org/hyperwar/USA/...-Canada-9.html

p.s. Do you know how many 10s of thousands of Canadian mercenaries fought in Vietnam? ... or the American Civil War?
 
EagleSmack
+2
#374
Quote: Originally Posted by Curious Cdn View Post

When Pearl Harbour was attacked, 10,000 American "mercenaries" were already serving in Canada's forces. The came here and enlisted to fight Nazi Germany when the USA was a
neutral on the sidelines.
The same thing happened for the same reason in WWI.
Canada was at war with Germany for a full 1/10th of the 20th Century. Our neighbours for only half that time ...
All those mercenaries ...
http://www.ibiblio.org/hyperwar/USA/...-Canada-9.html
p.s. Do you know how many 10s of thousands of Canadian mercenaries fought in Vietnam? ... or the American Civil War?

Your Alternet History posts are always entertaining to read.
 
MHz
#375
Canadian mercenaries are x-Canadian military that still fight in wars while not wearing the uniform of any National Military.
 
Curious Cdn
Conservative
#376
Quote: Originally Posted by EagleSmack View Post

Your Alternet History posts are always entertaining to read.

Your posts are meanless tripe.

No too bright, are you Yank?
 
spilledthebeer
+2
#377
Quote: Originally Posted by Curious Cdn View Post

Your posts are meanless tripe.

No too bright, are you Yank?


A TVO documentary claims that 36,000 Cdns served in the Yankee civil war!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


With 4,000 on the Confederate side!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And the Yankee sounds smarter than a Cdn LIE-beral SOCIALIST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 
Curious Cdn
Conservative
#378
Quote: Originally Posted by spilledthebeer View Post

A TVO documentary claims that 36,000 Cdns served in the Yankee civil war!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


With 4,000 on the Confederate side!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And the Yankee sounds smarter than a Cdn LIE-beral SOCIALIST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I was using the term "mercenary" satirically but it seems that you're almost as thick as Eagle Snack.
 
JamesBondo
#379
Thanks for all the comments, guys. So if what you are saying is true(non citizens serving in the military), then how did this thread title come about?
 
Curious Cdn
Conservative
#380
Quote: Originally Posted by JamesBondo View Post

Thanks for all the comments, guys. So if what you are saying is true(non citizens serving in the military), then how did this thread title come about?

It was made by someone who knows nothing of our military history.
 
Twin_Moose
Conservative
-1
#381
Shipyard at heart of Norman trial received secret cabinet documents in error
 
spilledthebeer
+1
#382
Quote: Originally Posted by Twin_Moose View Post

Shipyard at heart of Norman trial received secret cabinet documents in error


This whole ship procurement REEKS of LIE-beral manipulation!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Is it not ODD that the trial of Admiral Norman is heading for a MISTRIAL because LIE-beral friendly civil service union Hogs are refusing to hand out papers Normans lawyers NEED for his defense!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And yet the HOGS CAN send out secret papers to people who ought NOT to have them??????????????


AS I have said before- LIE-berals DO NOT wish to buy ANY WEAPONS for our military!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


LIE-beral stall and delay is the order of the day!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



LIE-berals happily completed the pair of De Wolf Arctic Patrol ships- because they are virtually UNARMED and are good for rescuing stranded Inuit fishermen - and you may recall a couple of years back that 4 Inuit got stranded on an ice floe- and a Cdn Forces SAR tech died in the rescue due - in part- to there not being any ships in the area!



And the De Wolf patrol vessels are also handy for rescuing stranded cruise ship passengers- and you may recall a Russian cruise ship getting stranded for nearly a week on an uncharted Beaufort Sea rock!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


But our LIE-berals HAVE NO INTENTION of actually completing or taking delivery of DESTROYERS for RCN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


At the height of the Cold War- Pierre Trudeau actually tried to disband the Cdn military and abandon our allies and leave us exposed to Soviet aggression!!!!!!!!!!!!


And now we have a new Cold War with Russian Putin, Soviet Red China, radical Islam in Iran and with the lunatic rocket boy of North Korea!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And Our idiot Boy Justin and his loser LIE-berals want to disarm us and abandon our allies and leave us open to Chinese SPIES masquerading as Huawei employees!


And LIE-berals have thrown open the borders to a DELUGE of illegals without the slightest concern that some might be criminals or terrorists!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Given a choice between buying the votes of illegals or defending our sovereignty- LIE-berals MUCH PREFER BUYING VOTES SO THEY CAN CLING TO POWER AT ANY PRICE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Our idiot Boy Justin is being backed into a corner!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


LIE-berals have NOT been able to bamboozle either Trump or Cdns on NAFTA- most of us think it is CRAZY to demand gender studies in a trade agreement with another democracy that many Cdns happily visit on a regular basis!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


The idiot Boy made noises about replacing LOST Yankee trade with Chinese biz- and that blew up in his face!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


In order to deal with China we would have had to give up huge chunks of sovereignty- so much that even LIE-berals shrank from such concessions!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And now we have the entire world talking about Huawei SPIES and Chinese aggression and greed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And the words of the Trudeau clan are coming back to HAUNT our LIE-beral overlords!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


In his book Two Innocents in Red China- Pierre Trudeau heaped fawning praise on Chinese Chairman Mao "for his genius in rushing 30 million Chinese to the gallows" during the notorious disaster called The Great Leap Forward!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And Our idiot Boy tells us "he likes the way the Chinese get things done"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Surely nothing quite labels you more clearly as a Soviet Asshole than praise for MASS MURDER??????????????????????



Nor have LIE-berals have not been able to fool us with regard to their insane carbon crap and trade tax SCAM that is nothing more than a MAJOR GRAVY GRAB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


LIE-berals were very happy to sneer at anybody who scorned the vaunted Paris Accords............and yet just a few short years later.......LIE-berals are telling us Paris Accord is USELESS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


ALL LIE-beral policy is FAILING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Hoid
#383
Quote: Originally Posted by Curious Cdn View Post

If you get rid of NORAD, the USAF then patrols ALL of our air space without our knowledge, permission and possibly against our strategic interests, from time-to-time.
You'll be the first whiner in line when some future American fruit-loop ding-dong President starts disallowing tourist flights returning from Cuba and turning them back to land in Mexico or the Carribean.
Don't think for a second that they aren't capable of electing someone like that or doing something like that because of the gigantic security threat that Cuba represents to that undereducated 1/3rd.

They would still patrol the same airspace and we would still know about it and it would still be done under some sort of agreement.
(edit in norad is not really one of my bugaboo's but I do think it is an extremely wasteful agency)
As far as American presidents interfering with international flights - doubtful.
 
spilledthebeer
#384
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

They would still patrol the same airspace and we would still know about it and it would still be done under some sort of agreement.
(edit in norad is not really one of my bugaboo's but I do think it is an extremely wasteful agency)
As far as American presidents interfering with international flights - doubtful.


Poor muddled HOID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


He wants Canada to SURRENDER IMMEDIATELY to any dictator that comes along!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


But he will fight like a TIGER TOM PROTECT HIS LIE-BERAL SUPPLIED GRAVY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !


Maybe that is the best way to protect Cdn sovereignty?????????????????????????????????



Just persuade LIE-berals that they will be able to keep a bigger chunk of gravy under a Conservative govt than under a Chinese Soviet dictatorship led by Our idiot Boy Justin acting as a Chinese PUPPET!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Twin_Moose
Conservative
#385
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

They would still patrol the same airspace and we would still know about it and it would still be done under some sort of agreement.
(edit in norad is not really one of my bugaboo's but I do think it is an extremely wasteful agency)
As far as American presidents interfering with international flights - doubtful.

I would think it isn't Canadian wasteful it is US Airforce funded and Canadian manned
 
MHz
#386
Now you understand why we need some immigrants to man the 'front line'. How would you like that explained 'to them' so they thank us at the same time??
 
MHz
#387
Quote: Originally Posted by JLM View Post

And you can't spell or compose a proper sentence so we are even.

Look around and then explain why that would be a requirement around here??
 
Twin_Moose
Conservative
+1
#388
Quote: Originally Posted by MHz View Post

Now you understand why we need some immigrants to man the 'front line'. How would you like that explained 'to them' so they thank us at the same time??

Would you mind interpreting? I don't speak Psychonese
 
DaSleeper
+1
#389
Quote: Originally Posted by Twin_Moose View Post

Would you mind interpreting? I don't speak Psychonese

I'm sure that they had him in mind when Proverbs 18:2 were written.....
 
Curious Cdn
Conservative
+1
#390
Quote: Originally Posted by spilledthebeer View Post

This whole ship procurement REEKS of LIE-beral manipulation!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Is it not ODD that the trial of Admiral Norman is heading for a MISTRIAL because LIE-beral friendly civil service union Hogs are refusing to hand out papers Normans lawyers NEED for his defense!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And yet the HOGS CAN send out secret papers to people who ought NOT to have them??????????????
AS I have said before- LIE-berals DO NOT wish to buy ANY WEAPONS for our military!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
LIE-beral stall and delay is the order of the day!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
LIE-berals happily completed the pair of De Wolf Arctic Patrol ships- because they are virtually UNARMED and are good for rescuing stranded Inuit fishermen - and you may recall a couple of years back that 4 Inuit got stranded on an ice floe- and a Cdn Forces SAR tech died in the rescue due - in part- to there not being any ships in the area!
And the De Wolf patrol vessels are also handy for rescuing stranded cruise ship passengers- and you may recall a Russian cruise ship getting stranded for nearly a week on an uncharted Beaufort Sea rock!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
But our LIE-berals HAVE NO INTENTION of actually completing or taking delivery of DESTROYERS for RCN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
At the height of the Cold War- Pierre Trudeau actually tried to disband the Cdn military and abandon our allies and leave us exposed to Soviet aggression!!!!!!!!!!!!
And now we have a new Cold War with Russian Putin, Soviet Red China, radical Islam in Iran and with the lunatic rocket boy of North Korea!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And Our idiot Boy Justin and his loser LIE-berals want to disarm us and abandon our allies and leave us open to Chinese SPIES masquerading as Huawei employees!
And LIE-berals have thrown open the borders to a DELUGE of illegals without the slightest concern that some might be criminals or terrorists!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Given a choice between buying the votes of illegals or defending our sovereignty- LIE-berals MUCH PREFER BUYING VOTES SO THEY CAN CLING TO POWER AT ANY PRICE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Our idiot Boy Justin is being backed into a corner!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
LIE-berals have NOT been able to bamboozle either Trump or Cdns on NAFTA- most of us think it is CRAZY to demand gender studies in a trade agreement with another democracy that many Cdns happily visit on a regular basis!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The idiot Boy made noises about replacing LOST Yankee trade with Chinese biz- and that blew up in his face!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
In order to deal with China we would have had to give up huge chunks of sovereignty- so much that even LIE-berals shrank from such concessions!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And now we have the entire world talking about Huawei SPIES and Chinese aggression and greed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And the words of the Trudeau clan are coming back to HAUNT our LIE-beral overlords!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
In his book Two Innocents in Red China- Pierre Trudeau heaped fawning praise on Chinese Chairman Mao "for his genius in rushing 30 million Chinese to the gallows" during the notorious disaster called The Great Leap Forward!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And Our idiot Boy tells us "he likes the way the Chinese get things done"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Surely nothing quite labels you more clearly as a Soviet Asshole than praise for MASS MURDER??????????????????????
Nor have LIE-berals have not been able to fool us with regard to their insane carbon crap and trade tax SCAM that is nothing more than a MAJOR GRAVY GRAB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
LIE-berals were very happy to sneer at anybody who scorned the vaunted Paris Accords............and yet just a few short years later.......LIE-berals are telling us Paris Accord is USELESS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ALL LIE-beral policy is FAILING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Norman got it 100% right and we got an excellent ship on time, on budget that is already working hard for us while Norman is still forced to build his case against a Liberal government that has no interest in supplying any ships at all.

http://www.thechronicleherald.ca/opi...uccess-281374/

Great ship, Admiral Mark!

http://youtu.be/dzEKwHVxkss

Bravo Zulu!

We need two more of them! Put Norman in charge of ALL of the procurement!

http://youtu.be/rCY0Xm3sgIs