Oops, I Did It Again


Tecumsehsbones
#1
Bride-to-be called 911 for help and was fatally shot by a Minneapolis police officer






By Katie Mettler July 17



A yoga and meditation teacher living in Minneapolis was fatally shot by city police Saturday night after she called 911 to report a possible assault in the alley behind her home.
The woman was identified by family in local and Australian news reports as 40-year-old Justine Damond, a native Australian who studied to be a veterinarian in Sydney before moving to Minneapolis to be with her fiance. The couple planned to marry next month.
Damond’s call for help came in just before 11:30 p.m. Saturday, according to a news release from the Minnesota Bureau of Criminal Apprehension. Two Minneapolis Police Department officers went to an alley near her home in the Fulton neighborhood, a popular area on the city’s southwest side.
“At one point an officer fired their weapon, fatally striking a woman,” the statement said.
But the BCA offered few other details on what precipitated the shooting and, it said, neither responding officer had turned on their body cameras before the shooting. The squad car camera did not capture the incident either. Investigators are looking into whether other video of the shooting exists, the statement said.
All Minneapolis police officers have worn body cameras since the end of 2016, according to the city, a policy decision that was announced in July 2016, same month a black motorist named Philando Castile was fatally shot by a police officer in the Twin Cities area.
“We all want to know more. I want to know more,” Minneapolis Mayor Betsy Hodges said during a news conference Sunday afternoon. “I call on the BCA … to share as much information as they can as quickly as they possibly can.”
In a series of statements since Saturday, Hodges has called the shooting a “tragic incident” and said she has questions about why the officers’ body cameras were not turned on.
“Tonight, I’m sad, and disturbed,” Hodges, who represented the Fulton area as a city council member, wrote on Facebook Sunday night. “This is a tragedy—for the family, for a neighborhood I know well, and for our whole city. … There is a long road of healing ahead, and a lot of work remains to be done. I hope to help us along that path in any way I can.
“But right now, I’m sad, disturbed, and looking for more answers, like many of you.”
Authorities told the Minneapolis Star Tribune that the officers have been placed on paid administrative leave, which is standard procedure in officer-involved shootings.
Three people “with knowledge of the incident” told the Star Tribune that the responding officers pulled into the alley behind Damond’s home. The woman, wearing pajamas, approached the driver’s side door and was talking to the driver, reported the Star Tribune. The officer in the passenger seat shot Damond through the driver’s side door, the three people told the newspaper.
“Basically, my mom’s dead because a police officer shot her for reasons I don’t know,” Zach Damond, Justine Damond’s stepson, said in a video posted to the Women’s March Minnesota Facebook page. “I demand answers. If anybody can help, just call the police and demand answers. I’m so done with all this violence.”
The 22-year-old man said that Damond heard a sound in the alley so she called police “and the cops showed up.”
“Next thing I know, they take my best friend’s life,” he said.
Another woman in the video, Bethany Bradley with Women’s March Minnesota, said police were not being transparent or sharing information with the family. She also lives in the Fulton area.
Justine Damond’s birth name was “Ruszczyk” but she had already taken the last name of her fiance, Don Damond, 50. He was away on a business trip when the shooting occurred.
Both Damonds taught meditation and spirituality classes at the Lake Harriet Spiritual Community center.
Justine Damond attended high school in Australia and graduated from the University of Sydney with a Bachelor of Veterinary Science degree in 2002, according to the Australian Broadcasting Corporation.
Her personal and business website says she was a qualified yoga instructor, meditation teacher and a personal health and life coach.
The website says Damond’s “interest in supporting people to heal and transform themselves developed after she saw family members suffer greatly from depression, alcoholism and cancer.”
It continued: “After losing much of her family to cancer she has spent many years on a personal investigative journey to discover how habits and disease develop, and how people can change and live in joy, expressing their full potential.”
The Minneapolis NAACP, three mayoral candidates and about 250 other friends, family and community members attended a vigil Sunday night held at the place where Damond was shot.
“Many of us who have been on the front lines have been warning the public, saying if they would do this to our fathers and our sons and our brothers and our sisters and our mothers, they will do it to you next,” said Nekima Levy-Pounds, one of the candidates and a civil rights attorney.
“I really hope that this is a wake-up call for this community to stop allowing things to be divided on the lines of race and on the lines of socio-economic status.”
Damond’s stepson called her a “very passionate” person. And other friends and neighbors at the vigil called her a “peaceful, lovely woman” who loved animals and helping others.
“This woman was a beautiful light,” Bradley said at the vigil. “She was a healer. She was loved. And she should be alive. She should still be here.”


https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.47c78a8f69d7


Oh, dear. And in the same city where Officer Jeronimo Yanez just got a walk for killing Philando Castile.


You just know they're having round-the-clock meetings in the mayor's office, the DA's office, the police union, PD headquarters, and the governor's office. How do you spin this one? Convict the cop, and the black community will know beyond all possibility of denial that it's open season on them. Acquit the cop and the whites are gonna get real worried that they're on the target list too now.


My advice to the cop? Say "I was frightened. I didn't know what she was going to do."


Worked for Yanez.
 
TenPenny
#2
I don't understand why the cops can turn off their cameras.
 
Tecumsehsbones
+1
#3
Quote: Originally Posted by TenPenny View Post

I don't understand why the cops can turn off their cameras.

Of course, we only have the PD's word for it that their cameras were off.

The power of the "delete" key is a mighty thing.
 
taxslave
#4
WHite Live's Matter
 
Tecumsehsbones
+3
#5
Quote: Originally Posted by taxslave View Post

WHite Live's Matter

I think we're about to get a year's worth of demonstration that only white lives matter.

By the way, did you get the part in the article that the cops have not been identified. Son, when the authorities can shoot an unarmed woman in her PJs, who is the one who called the cops in the first place, and have their identities concealed by the state, you are living in a police state.
 
petros
#6
I thought it was Minnesota?
 
captain morgan
#7
Quote: Originally Posted by taxslave View Post

WHite Live's Matter

You can stick with BLM on this one... Bride Lives Matter
 
Tecumsehsbones
#8
ALMM - Australian Lives Matter, Mate

Kinda like CLME - Canadian Lives Matter, Eh?
 
captain morgan
+1
#9
I think that we're witnessing the dawn of a new industry emerging.

... Can't wait to read all about the travails of OLCMLM (One Legged Circus Midgets) and how society needs to pay proper homage to their plight
 
Tecumsehsbones
+1
#10
Quote: Originally Posted by captain morgan View Post

I think that we're witnessing the dawn of a new industry emerging.

... Can't wait to read all about the travails of OLCMLM (One Legged Circus Midgets) and how society needs to pay proper homage to their plight

It's not a new industry. I see it as just an extension of the ribbon industry.

First there was the yellow ribbon. I think the next one was green. Now it's every colour, combination of colours, patterns, what-have-you.

I kinda like it. It's certainly a cheap, easy way to pretend you give a damn.

The other way to look at it is that Black Lives Matter was formed in response to what its founders, members, and supporters believe is excessive police force used against black people, and all the responses thereto are attempts to deny the validity of BLM through fallacious attacks (mostly ad hominem and strawman). Whether or not BLM has a valid point is not something I'm going to debate, certainly not with you.
 
petros
+2
#11
On shootings BLM has validity but when they get upset about a white woman quoting Bouyancy claiming "cultural appropriation" they've blew it. Bouyancy ranks right up there with Michael Jackson for wanting to be white.
 
White_Unifier
+1
#12
Quote: Originally Posted by Tecumsehsbones View Post

I think we're about to get a year's worth of demonstration that only white lives matter.

By the way, did you get the part in the article that the cops have not been identified. Son, when the authorities can shoot an unarmed woman in her PJs, who is the one who called the cops in the first place, and have their identities concealed by the state, you are living in a police state.

I've read a police report in Canada with the officers' names crossed out and the Minister's counsel refusing to share them with the judge.

Just call him Officer Anonymoose.
 
captain morgan
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Quote: Originally Posted by Tecumsehsbones View Post

It's not a new industry. I see it as just an extension of the ribbon industry.

First there was the yellow ribbon. I think the next one was green. Now it's every colour, combination of colours, patterns, what-have-you.

I kinda like it. It's certainly a cheap, easy way to pretend you give a damn.

Fair enough.... The pink and green ribbon campaigns succeeded (hugely) in raising billions. Hopefully the one legged circus midgets can be as successful

Quote: Originally Posted by Tecumsehsbones View Post

The other way to look at it is that Black Lives Matter was formed in response to what its founders, members, and supporters believe is excessive police force used against black people, and all the responses thereto are attempts to deny the validity of BLM through fallacious attacks (mostly ad hominem and strawman). Whether or not BLM has a valid point is not something I'm going to debate, certainly not with you.

BLM lost any credibility when they worked in a manner that contributed to the rioting and looting of the very communities they purportedly represented..... It also didn't help that they tried wading into any and every political arena imaginable and got all butthurt when their movement attracted parallel organizations.

Regardless, we'll end this here as you are averse to debating this with me.
 
Tecumsehsbones
+1
#14
Wow. I just read that women account for only 4% of the police killings in Murka!

Time for a new movement. But should we call it BLM (Bro Lives Matter), DLM (Dude Lives Matter), GLM (Guy Lives Matter), or YLM (Y-chromosome Lives Matter)?

I still advocate for my organization No Lives Matter, because that seems to be the most accurate representation of the observed facts.
 
Johnnny
+3
#15
I like D,LM more.... "Dude, Lives Matter"
 
petros
#16
Maybe it was a black cop that shot this woman?
 
Tecumsehsbones
#17
Oh, boy. This cop is gonna hang high.

His name is Mohammed Noor.

He should convert to Christianity, cuz they're gonna CRUCIFY him.
 
TenPenny
+1
#18
That seems like kind of an extreme way to get out of a marriage.
 
Danbones
#19
Die vorce
 
Twila
+1
#20
Time for a hard look at how police are trained. If they're over the top with authority or if they're truly afraid for their lives.

Body camera's shouldn't be allowed to be turned off, deleting footage should be an instant guilty charge / firing.
 
Tecumsehsbones
#21
Quote: Originally Posted by Twila View Post

Time for a hard look at how police are trained. If they're over the top with authority or if they're truly afraid for their lives.

Radley Balko says the problem is the training of the cops has gone from "guardian" orientation to "warrior" orientation.

Me, I say it's gone to "hysterical coward barking inconsistent orders" orientation. Look at the video of Geronimo Yanez if you disagree.

Quote:

Body camera's shouldn't be allowed to be turned off, deleting footage should be an instant guilty charge / firing.

Yeah, that'll happen.
 
Johnnny
#22
In Canada's case, i don't think its unreasonable to have the cops in our country to be trained in a form of martial art that would give them more options in tense situations.

The cops make a lot of money and have state of the art gear already so why not expect them to at least hold a black belt in some martial arts? Other countries do it...

I believe this was mentioned already on this forum.
 
TenPenny
+1
#23
Quote: Originally Posted by Tecumsehsbones View Post

Me, I say it's gone to "hysterical coward barking inconsistent orders" orientation. Look at the video of Geronimo Yanez if you disagree.



If you watch many of those youtube videos of people being arrested, it's a constant stream of cops yelling 'get on the ground! put your hands behind your back! turn over! I said get on the ground! '


No normal person could decipher what they're screaming quickly enough to do what they demanded before they start screaming something else. And if there's more than one cop, they're screaming different things, and demanding you comply.
 
Tecumsehsbones
#24
Quote: Originally Posted by TenPenny View Post

If you watch many of those youtube videos of people being arrested, it's a constant stream of cops yelling 'get on the ground! put your hands behind your back! turn over! I said get on the ground! '


No normal person could decipher what they're screaming quickly enough to do what they demanded before they start screaming something else. And if there's more than one cop, they're screaming different things, and demanding you comply.

Then they'll shoot you and later on the stand whimper about how terrified they were because there were only eight of them with guns, tasers, OC spray, and batons, facing. . . THE DREADED UNARMED CITIZEN!

Yeah, they're heroes.
 
spaminator
#25
Australian woman shot and killed by Minneapolis police, reasons unknown | World
 
Curious Cdn
#26
Quote: Originally Posted by Tecumsehsbones View Post

Then they'll shoot you and later on the stand whimper about how terrified they were because there were only eight of them with guns, tasers, OC spray, and batons, facing. . . THE DREADED UNARMED CITIZEN!

Yeah, they're heroes.

The scary thing is that the police apparently believe that they are at war with crime and any one of us is potentially a criminal,

Therefore, they are at war with ...
 
Tecumsehsbones
#27
Well, I gotta admit, I'd be pretty terrified of a 40-year-old white chick yoga instructor in pajamas.
 
Danbones
#28
Yeah, cops should have their guns controlled

Quote: Originally Posted by Johnnny View Post

In Canada's case, i don't think its unreasonable to have the cops in our country to be trained in a form of martial art that would give them more options in tense situations.

The cops make a lot of money and have state of the art gear already so why not expect them to at least hold a black belt in some martial arts? Other countries do it...

I believe this was mentioned already on this forum.

They used to learn Defendo.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defendo
 
TenPenny
#29
Quote: Originally Posted by Danbones View Post

Yeah, cops should have their guns controlled



They do.
 
Danbones
#30
Bride-to-be called 911 for help and was fatally shot by a Minneapolis police officer
(in case you missed it)

not very well apparently
 

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