Quote: Originally Posted by Corduroy
Do liberals actually care about CNN? It seems to be singularly conservative obsession.
You do that old saying: that to annoy a Conservative you must lie to him but to annoy a LIE-beral you tell the truth! Cnn is doing a fine job of smearing Trump with this storm in a Russian Tea cup! This is NOT Watergate for a new generation- this is FAKE NEWS and it used to have various labels such as: lies, misrepresentation, speculation and propaganda!
Our own Cdn LIE-berals are doing a fine job of producing their own fake news! Consider:
Here is an article illustrating that LIE-berals have told us so many lies that now LIE-berals are attacking each other because they cannot keep track of all the lies! With some comments of my own in brackets):
Wynne Liberals discrediting McGuinty Liberals by attacking report
By Lorrie Goldstein, Toronto Sun. First posted: Wednesday, January 18, 2017 05:32 PM EST | Updated: Wednesday, January 18, 2017 05:39 PM EST
Wynne, McGuinty bungled green energy
Shutdown of coal plants raised electricity rates, failed to reduce pollution: Report
Energy minister rips report on closing coal plants
By attacking this week’s Fraser Institute report that closing Ontario’s coal-fired electricity plants had no significant impact on provincial air quality, Premier Kathleen Wynne’s Liberals are biting off their own tails.
They are directly contradicting statements by the previous Liberal government of Dalton McGuinty a decade ago, when Ontario was campaigning to reduce U.S. cross-border emissions from 150 coal-fired plants in the American Midwest.
The Fraser study by economists Ross McKitrick and Elmira Aliakbari, first reported by the Sun, says Ontario’s closure of its five coal plants by 2014 — costing billions of dollars and helping to send electricity prices skyrocketing — did not significantly improve Ontario’s air quality.
They said since these plants weren’t major contributors to air pollution — which the Liberal government knew from its own study in 2005 — Liberal claims closing them resulted in dramatic improvements to air quality are “implausible.”
(No surprise about false air quality claims since they ARE LIE-berals!)
Ontario’s air quality, McKitrick and Aliakbari say, was mainly affected by cross-border pollution from U.S. coal plants.
(IN other words- as I have said before- LIE-beral are trying to claim credit for dying industry in U.S. and saying it is the result of THEIR actions! There was no reason not to look hard at our coal plants and ask if there were low cost ways to reduce emissions but LIE-berals never did this. Nuclear submarines have air scrubbers that allow the ships to stay underwater for months at a time- there are also air cleaners available in Europe that can be installed on a wood burning fireplace in a house to reduce emissions. LIE-berals NEVER looked to see if there might be air cleaners that we could use on our coal plants. LIE-berals simply rushed off in a gross display of greed and signed us up for green energy produced by their friends in a program so sloppy and ill conceived that it actually produces MORE carbon than would be the case if we simply used natural gas generators and scrapped the mouldy green deal!)
(And now LIE-berals have enraged the public with their price gouging and their lies about cleaner air and their the ugly show of arrogance in selling our Hydro system to their friends and calling it a good deal for the public- with LIE-beral friendly Hogs soaking up huge profits that we are not allowed to know about as LIE-berals REFUSE to show us the books! With Fraser Institute chipping away at LIE-beral camouflage that covers their lies!)
In rushing to discredit the Fraser report — because it undermines their claim that closing Ontario’s coal plants saved the health-care system $3 billion annually, thousands of lives and lowered hospital admissions — the Wynne Liberals are discrediting what the McGuinty Liberals said a decade ago.
At that time, McGuinty and his environment minister, Laurel Broten, argued most of Ontario’s coal pollution — up to 90% — came from the U.S.
Here’s McGuinty speaking in 2005: “On a typical bad air day, we know that more than 50% of the smog hovering over Ontario originates in the U.S. Midwest and Ohio Valley.”
Here’s Broten in a submission to the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency in 2006: “More than half of the air pollution in Ontario originates in the United States, in particular from the electricity production sector. At some Ontario locations, including Sarnia and Windsor, more than 90% of the air pollution can come from U.S. sources.”
Here’s then Toronto mayor David Miller, writing in support of Broten’s submission: “Emissions from U.S. sources are responsible for between 50% and 90% of the air pollution that blankets Toronto on smog days and coal-fired plants in the Midwestern United States are the worst offenders.”
Here’s Dr. David V.J. Bell, former dean of York University’s faculty of environmental studies: “Most of the air pollution effecting Ontario residents comes from the Midwestern states in the U.S.”
In 2006, on behalf of Toronto, Windsor and other cities, the Sierra Club petitioned the EPA to reduce cross-border coal pollution, noting 150 coal plants in seven Midwestern states — “among the oldest and dirtiest in the U.S.” — produced 4.5 million tonnes of sulphur dioxide and 1.6 million tonnes of nitrogen oxide annually.
By comparison, Ontario’s five coal-fired plants produced 153,750 tonnes of sulphur dioxide and 57,875 tonnes of nitrogen oxide annually.
Ohio’s 24 coal plants alone produced eight times the sulphur dioxide, six times the nitrogen oxide and five times the greenhouse gases.
While the Wynne government cites a dramatic drop in smog days, pollution-related deaths and hospital admissions since Ontario closed its coal plants, McKitrick and Aliakbari suggest this was mainly due to a dramatic drop in U.S. cross-border pollution between 2002 and 2014, when monthly average nitrogen oxide emissions fell by more than half, from 556 megatonnes to 263.
(IN other words the economic impact of the 2008 melt down has destroyed U,S, industry and reduced electrical demand and cleaned the air as U.S. plants cut back on use of coal! LIE-beral propaganda about the value of their carbon scheme is simply feel good nonsense designed to hide how they are turning our Hydro system into a cash cow for their grossly entitled friends!)
The main reasons were the 2008 recession and the fracking boom, leading to the replacement of many U.S. coal plants with cleaner burning natural gas.
(LIE-beral environmental policy is based on the same crappy smoke and mirrors method that gave us a 15 percent `reduction` in the cost of auto insurance- by the simple expedient of reducing benefits paid to victims by FIFTY PERCENT! LIE-beral energy policy and environmental policies are in total disgrace!)
lgoldstein at postmedia