Multiple dead after shooting at Quebec City mosque


spaminator
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Couillard: Quebec mosque shooting victims were 'like me, like us' | Canada | New

Montreal mosque vandalized | Canada | News | Toronto Sun

Terror at our door | Malcolm | Columnists | Opinion | Toronto Sun
 
mentalfloss
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As Quebec shooting victims mourned, Montreal mosque vandalized | CTV News

Terrible
 
Locutus
#483
yeah, tragic.
 
mentalfloss
+1
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Loc, you are a horrible person.
 
Locutus
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#485
Quote: Originally Posted by mentalfloss View Post

Loc, you are a horrible person.

not at all.

in fact I'm well-liked, popular and quite successful.

my post topics are vastly more mighty, plentiful and varied than yours.

also nu-male, I am a better fukking troll than you are.
 
Machjo
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Quote: Originally Posted by taxslave View Post

That is about the extent of his linkage with Trump too but it didn't stop the loony left from claiming it is Trump's fault.

True. Plus the NDP and trump are not as different from one another as they'd like to think, at least in their views on nationalism. They both tend to be protectionist (Mulcair being one of the few exceptions in his party).
 
JLM
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Quote: Originally Posted by Machjo View Post

True. Plus the NDP and trump are not as different from one another as they'd like to think, at least in their views on nationalism. They both tend to be protectionist (Mulcair being one of the few exceptions in his party).


I'm not sure being protectionist is a bad idea. Beats the hell out of sending jobs to Bangladesh!
 
mentalfloss
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Quote: Originally Posted by Locutus View Post

not at all.

in fact I'm well-liked, popular and quite successful.

my post topics are vastly more mighty, plentiful and varied than yours.

also nu-male, I am a better fukking troll than you are.

Like I said, you are pretty grimey.
 
Cannuck
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Quote: Originally Posted by Locutus View Post

also nu-male, I am a better fukking troll than you are.

Sorry to disappoint but you're not half the troll Flossy is.
 
mentalfloss
#490
Quote: Originally Posted by Machjo View Post

True. Plus the NDP and trump are not as different from one another as they'd like to think, at least in their views on nationalism. They both tend to be protectionist (Mulcair being one of the few exceptions in his party).

The NDP actually evolved over the last decade to understand the importance of globalism.
 
Colpy
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Quote: Originally Posted by mentalfloss View Post

Quebec and Canada have an Islamophobia problem

What was it like growing up in Quebec?

It’s a question I get often. My boilerplate response generally consists of admitting that while language issues did often come up for me growing up in a predominantly French-speaking town about an hour east of Montreal, racism was never really a factor.

However, I am always quick to point out that as an Indo-Canadian who spoke the right kind of French, I was raised in a Hindu household. So although I faced no racism, I am under no illusions that had my family been practicing Muslims I would have had a very different experience growing up in rural Quebec.

In the aftermath of the devastating attack on a mosque in Quebec City that has left six men dead and 19 injured, many are left wondering whether Quebec is in fact a distinct society when it comes to Islamophobia.

While there is ample evidence to suggest that Quebeckers are no more racist than their English Canadian counterparts, the same is not true regarding a negative conception of Islam. According to a Forum Research poll conducted late last year, 48 per cent of respondents from Quebec had a negative view of Islam, compared to 28 per cent of the rest of the country.

From Jacques Parizeau uttering the phrase “money and the ethnic vote” to explain why the sovereignty referendum was defeated in 1995 to the heated debate that engulfed Quebec in 2013 over “values,” Quebec’s unique brand of language and identity politics is no secret.

Once you factor in Quebec’s promotion of interculturalism to multiculturalism, along with the fact that the political class firmly believes in the French concept of laïcité, or secularism, a larger picture starts to unfold of just how easy it is for politicians to exploit anti-Muslim sentiment for political gain.

However, Canadians elsewhere should not be feeling too smug about this, as shoring up anti-Muslim sentiment is hardly relegated to Quebec. The 2015 federal election campaign featured the Conservative Party proposing a tip line for “barbaric cultural practices,” apparently unaware of the fact that people already have the ability to call the police should they suspect a monstrous crime is underway.

Similarly, the current Conservative leadership race has been a stark reminder of the fact that appealing to xenophobic voters is a legitimate strategy in trying to get votes.

Conservative leadership candidate Kellie Leitch’s chief policy proposal is that she will screen immigrants and refugees for “Canadian values” without ever explaining how she will do this or what problem this will solve. Leitch’s flirtation with courting the unabashed bigot vote is so glaring that the pediatric surgeon with 22 letters after her name could not even bring herself to utter the words Muslim or mosque in her statement on the attack.

Quebec and Canada have an Islamophobia problem | Globalnews.ca

Islamophobic is a word created by fascists, and used by cowards, to manipulate morons. Andrew Cummins
 
mentalfloss
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Machjo
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Quote: Originally Posted by JLM View Post

I'm not sure being protectionist is a bad idea. Beats the hell out of sending jobs to Bangladesh!

Protectionism promotes economic inefficiency and so contributes to inflation which hurts the poor the most.

Trump doesn't mind paying tariffs because he can afford it. Not the ordinary working man though.
 
s_lone
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Funny how Quebec was once termed ''Quebecistan'' by Barbara Kay, a National Post reporter. Quebec was supposedly too friendly and tolerant towards islamist terrorism.

Now Quebec is suddenly viewed as being too islamophobic.

It's so easy to nitpick events to suit your own narrative.
 
Machjo
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Quote: Originally Posted by mentalfloss View Post

The NDP actually evolved over the last decade to understand the importance of globalism.

I seem to remember that Mulcair had really irked members of his party for his pro-trade stance. This was before his ousting.

Immigration-wise too, the NDP insists on linking immigration to the social safety net. One reason immigration was so welcomed and immigration laws were so lax prior to WWI was because it wasn't linked to the social safety net. People would move to Canada to the degree that the free market could absorb them. So even if a billion people flooded Canada, it couldn't cost the taxpayer anything. Instead, it would be a billion more taxpayers.

The Libertarian Party of Canada holds this view today, that we should just have an open border to immigration, but the Libertarian Party delinks it from the social safety net. in other words, anyone can come to Canada as long as they can support themselves.

By insisting that immigration and the social safety net be linked, the NDP has created a hostile environment to immigration to the point where even the NDP itself must now support limits to immigration, albeit more generous than other parties. As a result, linking the two has made all parties, the NDP included, less tolerant of open borders than was the case prior to WWI. If we want to go back to the good old days of more open borders, we need to delink immigration from the social safety net.
 
Cannuck
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Quote: Originally Posted by Machjo View Post

that Mulcair had really irked members of his party for his pro-trade stance.

Mulcair is too far right for the Trumpites
 
Machjo
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Quote: Originally Posted by Cannuck View Post

Mulcair is too far right for the Trumpites

He's too far right for most in his own party too.
 
Cannuck
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Quote: Originally Posted by Machjo View Post

He's too far right for most in his own party too.

Yes, Trumpites and Dippers do have alot in common
 
Johnnny
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Quote: Originally Posted by s_lone View Post

Funny how Quebec was once termed ''Quebecistan'' by Barbara Kay, a National Post reporter. Quebec was supposedly too friendly and tolerant towards islamist terrorism.

Now Quebec is suddenly viewed as being too islamophobic.

It's so easy to nitpick events to suit your own narrative.

This is exactly what im saying and your from Quebec...
 
EagleSmack
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Quote: Originally Posted by mentalfloss View Post

As Quebec shooting victims mourned, Montreal mosque vandalized | CTV News

Terrible

Are they investigating the NDP for this?
 
Machjo
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Or would that be 'left.' Given how the poor benefit the most from free trade, I guess free trade ought to be considered more of a left movement. Seeing how protectionism is more closely associated with nationalism and free trade with internationalism, and we tend to associated internationalism with the left and nationalism with the right, protectionism would seem to be more right and free trade more left.
 
EagleSmack
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Quote: Originally Posted by Machjo View Post

True. Plus the NDP and trump are not as different from one another as they'd like to think, at least in their views on nationalism. They both tend to be protectionist (Mulcair being one of the few exceptions in his party).

This is a Canadian and NDP problem... it has nothing to do with Trump.
 
Machjo
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Quote: Originally Posted by EagleSmack View Post

This is a Canadian and NDP problem... it has nothing to do with Trump.

You're reading too much into my statement. I was not implying anything about the shooting being Trump's fault. I was just saying that Trump and the NDP share more in common than they'd like to admit.
 
JLM
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Quote: Originally Posted by Machjo View Post

Protectionism promotes economic inefficiency and so contributes to inflation which hurts the poor the most.

Trump doesn't mind paying tariffs because he can afford it. Not the ordinary working man though.


So you'd rather see jobs going to Bangladesh?
 
EagleSmack
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Quote: Originally Posted by Machjo View Post

You're reading too much into my statement. I was not implying anything about the shooting being Trump's fault. I was just saying that Trump and the NDP share more in common than they'd like to admit.

Your opinion but we can respectfully disagree.

How long has the NDP been a hate group? Do you think there are more NDP terrorists out there?
 
Cannuck
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Quote: Originally Posted by EagleSmack View Post

Your opinion...

No. It's a fact.
 
EagleSmack
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^
#alternatefact
 
Cannuck
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Quote: Originally Posted by EagleSmack View Post

^
#alternatefact

I know it's difficult for Trumpites to accept. That's why it's so funny.

I'd like to take the time and go back through the old threads when free-trade was discussed. I know Cliffy fought long and hard against free trade and folks like Loc and probably you fought for free trade. I know it pains you and I know you would never admit that you agree with a leftard like Cliffy but we know.
 
JLM
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How did this thread get so far off topic? Albeit maybe I was one of the ones contributing to it! I think it's quite a stretch to jump from murder to economics although I suppose that can happen when passing life sentences in lieu of Ol' Sparky and the rope.
 
Cannuck
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Quote: Originally Posted by JLM View Post

I think it's quite a stretch to jump from murder to economics...

It has to do with motive. Try and keep up