Brexit hasn't defunded Britain. So why is Project Fear willing us to fail?


Blackleaf
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Now that Britain has voted to leave, proof that economics matters less than you might think is the sad sight of some Remainers willing us to fail. Every piece of economic data is picked through for signs of impending doom – like a Roman fortune teller dissecting entrails. But if there are cracks in consumer confidence, isn’t it because Project Fear spent several months predicting that there would be?

Brexit hasn't defunded Britain. So why is Project Fear willing us to fail?




Tim Stanley
13 August 2016
The Telegraph


This particular British Bulldog is actually German, but you get the point (dog and cat exhibition, Dortmund, Germany, May 6, 2016.) Credit: Ina Fassbender


One more Remain camp scare story disproved. During the referendum, ministers said that Brexit would threaten subsidies to science, universities, infrastructure and farms – putting us one step closer to economic oblivion and the rise of the anti-Christ. Now Philip Hammond, the new chancellor, says that all organisations that currently receive EU funds will continue to receive the equivalent cash value.

This is unsurprising. The EU money that goes to British groups is drawn from the pool that is fed by Britain's annual subsidy. Once we stop paying that subsidy, we take control over our money again, and - hey presto - we can choose to give it to whoever we want. Philip Hammond might be a Remainer, but he’s also not an idiot. So of course he’ll keep the money flowing into our vital institutions. Anyone who ever thought said cash was at risk was a hysterical fantasist.

But why were so-called conservatives in favour of this kind of subsidy in the first place? The referendum turned political orthodoxy upside down. Remain’s free market conservatives found themselves defending subsidies to farmers, the EU’s protective union and even made dark warnings about Brexit harming state benefits. Don’t get me wrong: the referendum turned Leave’s libertarian Tories into socialists, too, as evidenced by their sudden love of the NHS and hatred for TTIP.

However, the transformation of socialists into libertarian Tories on the Remain side was all the more galling because they are normally so very high and mighty about their economics. Pro-Europe Labour activists suddenly decided that Osborne, the IMF and the City were economic oracles. That the banks must be kept in Britain at all costs (Jesus was wrong: the money changers must stay in the temple!) Overnight, lefties who had long argued for exports now thought that Britain needed a hard currency and that the pound should be pegged to the value of Kryptonite. All of this was proof that for many, the EU debate was not about practicalities but about cultural identity. The EU = success because it’s European. Liberal. Tolerant. Speaks multiple languages.

And now that Britain has voted to leave, proof that economics matters less than you might think is the sad sight of some Remainers willing us to fail. Every piece of economic data is picked through for signs of impending doom – like a Roman fortune teller dissecting entrails. But if there are cracks in consumer confidence, isn’t it because Project Fear spent several months predicting that there would be? Having every international institution, the major political parties and Madam EU herself running around screaming that the world was about to end was bound to send jitters through the market. A market already weakened by over-reliance on high house prices and cheap money. Some of us are still praying for house prices to collapse, by the way. Labour Europhiles may have been converted to the view that Kensington Gardens is a worthy motor of the country’s economy, but the rest of us would like to be able to afford to buy a home some day.

There will be pain. Britain has taken a bold, radical step – so there will be pain. But not as much pain as the EU fanatics suggest. There would certainly be a lot less if the establishment accepted the reality of Brexit and made it work.

Although we must come to terms with our new state of ironies. Apparently the plunging pound has created a tourist boom: visitors are up 18 per cent in one month. What a paradox. Brexit has brought us more foreigners, not fewer.


Brexit hasn't defunded Britain. So why is Project Fear willing us to fail?
 
Danbones
Free Thinker
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Greece has pain, Syria has pain, Iraq has pain, Palistien has pain
what has Britian to complain about compared to that?

Though Iceland seems to be doing OK
 
Blackleaf
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The first four are s***holes and the fifth is interminably cold, treeless and boring.
 
Remington1
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When you stop having a clear plan, everything slows down. I believe Britain has a couple of years to put in place a new plan. With time, when Britain can understand how to proceed economically by not being present at the EU conference tables to protect their best interest, there will be uncertainty with investors. In my opinion, they will struck up deals with some groups inside the EU, they are smart and savvy. With the situation in the world right now, and the overwhelming turmoil it's brought to Europe, getting back their independence and control over every part of their country is not a bad thing at all. I'm surprised France and Germany have not decided to leave as well, if only to protect their country from civil unrest. They need to do something! sitting still waiting for the next attacks on their citizen should not be an option.
 
Machjo
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Britain will survive.
 
Kreskin
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Hurry up and leave. We're all sick of hearing about the pseudo exit.
 
Blackleaf
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Quote: Originally Posted by Kreskin View Post

Hurry up and leave.

That's easy to say when you're not the country whose having to untangle itself from the EU.
 
Ludlow
No Party Affiliation
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Brexit schmexit tired o hearin bout it put up more pics of the English countryside those are cool Blackloaf.
 
Blackleaf
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Quote: Originally Posted by Ludlow View Post

Brexit schmexit tired o hearin bout it put up more pics of the English countryside those are cool Blackloaf.

England's Big Picture: 8 - 14 August 2016

BBC News

Each day we feature a photograph sent in from across England - the gallery will grow during the week.


This photograph of "lovely low evening sun, highlighting the footpath through a wheat field" was taken by Marcus Simmons while out on a family walk just outside Loughborough, Leicestershire


Jonathan Jerrome took this photograph during the press launch of the Bristol International Balloon Fiesta at Cabot Tower


Brian Whitehead took this photograph on Friday morning whilst going for a stroll along the Westcliff Promenade at Ramsgate, Kent. It shows the bronze sculpture Hands and Molecule by David Barnes, with Pegwell Bay in the background, "both basking in the summer morning sunshine"


This photograph of deckchairs overlooking St Ives harbour, Cornwall was taken by Julie Taylor on Monday. She said: "It was lovely and peaceful just before the crowds arrived and the scene looked its best on what was a stunning morning."


Gemma Waddison took this photograph on Monday whilst out walking in East Malling in Kent. The Sun is setting over the Kent Downs, which stretch from the White Cliffs of Dover to the London and Surrey border


Tony Bolton took this photograph of Crummock Water whilst waiting for his son to return from a run. Crummock Water is situated between Loweswater and Buttermere in the Lake District, Cumbria


This photograph was taken by Christopher Attard in Islington, north London as he was walking with his family in New River Walk


England's Big Picture: 8 - 14 August - BBC News
Last edited by Blackleaf; Aug 14th, 2016 at 08:23 AM..
 
Machjo
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Quote: Originally Posted by Blackleaf View Post

That's easy to say when you're not the country whose having to untangle itself from the EU.

All talk no action. Come back once you've figured out how to untangle yourselves. Ah the dream with no plan in sight.
 
Blackleaf
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Quote: Originally Posted by Machjo View Post

All talk no action.

That's easy for you to say when Canada doesn't have to untangle itself from over 40 years of EU legislation which now permeates almost every facet of British law and society. Pulling out of the EU will likely take up to two years.

Brexit is ‘FULL STEAM AHEAD’ as Theresa May VOWS to get Britain out of the EU quickly

THERESA May is working “full steam ahead” to finish Brexit deals as fears mount that delays could lead to Britain being tied to the European Union for another three years.

By Patrick Christys
Mon, Aug 15, 2016
The Daily Express


Theresa May's spokeswoman said the Prime Minister has Brexit as her 'top priority' GETTY

Brexit is the Prime Minister’s “top priority”, according to a Downing Street spokeswoman, as calls grow for Mrs May to trigger Article 50.

But there are concerns that “chaotic” Whitehall civil service departments are woefully unprepared for the changes Britain’s divorce from Brussels would cause.

City insiders said Whitehall staff would not be ready to trigger Article 50 for another 12 months.

But prominent Eurosceptic Jacob Rees-Mogg has slammed dithering civil service staff and called for Mrs May to speed up Britain’s EU departure.

He said: “Any suggestion Whitehall ‘is not ready’ just won’t do. The job of the civil service is to implement the political will.

“If it can’t what is point of the Cabinet Secretary?”


Theresa May seems committed to securing Britain's EU divorce as quickly as possible GETTY

A Cabinet source said yesterday problems hiring staff for David Davis and Liam Fox’s Brexit and International Trade departments were stalling progress on Britain’s exit from the EU.

Mr Davis and Mr Fox are desperately trying to recruit staff during Parliament’s summer recess.

Mr Fox needs up to 1,000 trade policy experts but currently has fewer than 100.

Mr Davis will employ up to 250 new staff members – but also currently has less than half the staff he needs.

Despite concerns, a Downing Street spokeswoman said: “It is full steam ahead.

“The Prime Minister has promised to get the job done. Ministers’ diaries are jam-packed with meetings. There is no slowdown or diversion from that. We are ploughing on as quickly as we can and there is no hold-up. Staff are joining every day.”

The assertions were supported by Brexit-supporting Tory Peter Bone, who said: “I’ve absolutely no doubt Theresa May will want this done and dusted as quickly as possible because she doesn’t want this issue she has inherited hanging over her.

“She’ll want to get on with it and I suspect Brexit will happen earlier rather than later.”


Brexit is ‘FULL STEAM AHEAD’ as Theresa May VOWS to get Britain out of the EU quickly | UK | News | Daily Express
 
Blackleaf
#12
Nigel Farage deserves a knighthood for giving the British their freedom



Simon Heffer
20 August 2016
The Telegraph


Nigel Farage, who now sports a moustache, out canvassing for the last time as leader in Thanet Credit: Steve Finn


David Cameron’s resignation honours rewarded corruption, dishonesty, lack of principle and failure. Earlier appointments littered the Lords with such political heavyweights as Michelle Mone, an underwear queen, and Karren Brady, a football executive.

He is shameless; I hope those who took largely undeserved baubles are not, and will come to appreciate the damage they have done to their reputations by accepting them. Some of us still despise the beneficiaries of Harold Wilson’s “Lavender List” 40 years on.

But with the next list in December Mrs May must settle the question of appropriately rewarding those who helped secure the will of the British people in the recent referendum.

Nigel Farage did more than anyone to bring Brexit about, and a knighthood is about the least he deserves. There are others like him. If the honours system won’t recognise such conspicuous achievement, what is it for?

Nigel Farage deserves a knighthood for giving the British their freedom
 
Danbones
Free Thinker
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Quote: Originally Posted by Blackleaf View Post

The first four are s***holes and the fifth is interminably cold, treeless and boring.

guess what country played a MAJOR hand in making some of them ****holes
and Iceland:
wWll, they certainly financially have kicked Britain sorry A$$

Maybe what Britain deserves is the same fate as the palistien you British folks sold out

(Just a note: ...and when Netanyahootaninny claimed that the grand mufti of palistien went to hitler and also said that the mufti told him to burn all the Jews, he was busted as a lier
By claiming that he also put the lie to the fib that there was no plaistien before WW2
Last edited by Danbones; Aug 20th, 2016 at 08:16 AM..
 
Blackleaf
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The people responsible for the mess in Palestine are the Palestinians.
 
Danbones
Free Thinker
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i call BS on that
britain sold out Palistien with the Balfour declaration

how quickly we forget, eh?

next you'll be tellin us Britain's problems are some one else's fault
like they did when Iceland kicked Britian's butt a while back by doing in those illegal bankers

eta
sorry there Walter
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balfour_Declaration

it is what it is
reddies won't change that

note that britain sold out palistien to the bankers that funded Hiltler and the EU they just brexited
how sick is that?
Last edited by Danbones; Aug 20th, 2016 at 08:24 AM..
 
Blackleaf
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Bollocks. The geographical region known as Palestine was part of the Ottoman Empire for centuries before the British Empire defeated the Ottoman Empire in the Great War and took control of parts of it, including Greater Syria.

The British then divided Greater Syria into the modern states of Syria, Lebanon, Israel, Jordan, Iraq and Kuwait, with both Israel AND Jordan occupying the region known as Palestine.

It's funny, however, that the Lefties never complain about Jordanian occupation of Palestine.