Slowly, our dumb immigration is being changed


dumpthemonarchy
Free Thinker
#1
Hey, I guess they learn something once a decade in Ottawa. Business loves this because now, capital is getting cheaper labour with 300,000 undereducated immigrants entering the country each year.

We need only 100,000 immigrants each year, mostly from Europe and Latin America, they adjust must faster and don't have barbaric archaic practices such as honour killing like Asians do. I heard on the CBC recently that indo-Canadian girls are taken out of schools and sent to Asia to be married and if they rebel they can be killed. Why are we allowing this to happen in Canada?

Plus, Canadian women should be paid about $4000 for their third and fourth children.



Immigrants who don’t speak English or French end up working in ethnic ‘enclaves:’ report | News | National Post

Immigrants who don’t speak English or French end up working in ethnic ‘enclaves:’ report
Peter O'Neil, Postmedia News Jun 13, 2012 – 10:02 AM ET | Last Updated: Jun 13, 2012 10:08 AM ET


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Immigrants who work in ethnic “enclaves” in major cities earn less than other Canadians and have a tougher time adapting to this country’s economy, according to an internal federal government document.

.Comments Email Twitter inShare.9.OTTAWA — Immigrants who work in ethnic “enclaves” in major cities earn less than other Canadians and have a tougher time adapting to this country’s economy, according to an internal federal government document.

“Studies found that enclaves have a negative impact on the earnings growth for male and female immigrants,” says a report obtained under the Access to Information Act by immigration lawyer Richard Kurland.

The point was included in a federal report prepared in early 2011 to assess minimum language standards for immigrants brought to Canada under the “provincial nominee” (PN) program.

The report focused on concerns within Citizenship and Immigration Canada about the ability of program nominees in some provinces to speak one of Canada’s two official languages.

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.Immigration Minister Jason Kenney recently acted on those concerns, announcing in April that program applicants in semi- and low-skilled jobs will be required to meet minimum language standards in English or French starting July 1.

More than 38,000 workers and their families came to Canada in 2011 under the program, which has become hugely popular with provincial governments seeking to meet severe labour shortages.

The report obtained by Kurland cited research showing that immigrants who can speak English or French adequately have earnings comparable to their Canadian-born counterparts.

But those who don’t speak an official language struggle in the labour force and often end up working in “enclave” immigrant communities in major cities.

The report said the number of immigrants working in a non-official language jumped 14 per cent between 2001 and 2006, involving 611,000 people.

Roughly one in six immigrants “only” used a non-official language and of this group, close to 60 per cent indicated they couldn’t conduct a conversation in English or French.

“While some researchers point to the possibility of such immigrants becoming employed in an ethnically sheltered (enclave) economy, several recent studies have shown that there are many disadvantages to doing this,” according to the report.

Several studies, for instance, showed that jobs in these enclaves are mostly in the lower-paying service industries, and taking those jobs can put the employee in a rut.

“Exposure to one’s group reduces the accumulation of skills specific to the host country’s labour market, decreases the knowledge of the local native language and impedes immigrants’ economic progress,” the report said.

The report also found that workers who speak little or no English or French face greater risks in terms of occupational health and safety, since they tend to be in physically demanding occupations and may be unaware of their rights.

Language proficiency also plays a critical role in the social integration of immigrants and their young children, it said. “It has a direct relationship with newcomers’ ability to settle, adapt and integrate into Canadian society.”

A federal government-funded 2009 research paper by University of British Columbia geography professor Daniel Hiebert, which looked at immigrant enclaves in Vancouver, Toronto and Montreal, said those areas have higher unemployment levels and that residents are “slightly” more dependent on government transfers.
 
DurkaDurka
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#2
Where did you come up with the $4000.00 number for women having a 3'rd or 4'th kid?
 
dumpthemonarchy
Free Thinker
#3
I used the following arithmetic: $4000 x 200,000 (3rd - 4th kids) is only $800,000,000 . Cheap!!!

Since we're already getting 300,000 immigrants per year, this money would make up the shortfall. Taking in so many strangers like we do right now is not smart. We need people born here who know the country and will be more productive in their working life to get and make better jobs. With 100,000 immigrants, yuppies can still have their sushi.
 
The Old Medic
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Both Canada and the USA have long histories of accepting people that do not speak the language of the country.

Typically, the adult immigrants never become fully fluent in the language. Their children become largely bi-lingual. By the time they have grandchildren born in the country, they primarily speak the language of the country, and only partially speak the families native language.

By the time grandchildren reach adulthood, they commonly can not speak the original language more than haltingly, and are fully integrated into the society of the country their great grandparents moved to.

By the time there are great-great grandchildren, they are celebrating their ethnic heritage, and call themselves ---/Canadians or ---/Americans (fill in the ethnic group). They begin adopting some form of their ethnic heritage, and try to become some form of a hyphenated citizen.
 
dumpthemonarchy
Free Thinker
#5
Quote: Originally Posted by The Old Medic View Post

Both Canada and the USA have long histories of accepting people that do not speak the language of the country.

Typically, the adult immigrants never become fully fluent in the language. Their children become largely bi-lingual. By the time they have grandchildren born in the country, they primarily speak the language of the country, and only partially speak the families native language.

By the time grandchildren reach adulthood, they commonly can not speak the original language more than haltingly, and are fully integrated into the society of the country their great grandparents moved to.

By the time there are great-great grandchildren, they are celebrating their ethnic heritage, and call themselves ---/Canadians or ---/Americans (fill in the ethnic group). They begin adopting some form of their ethnic heritage, and try to become some form of a hyphenated citizen.

But the days of having a grade 5 education, getting a decent job, getting married and working for 40 years for the same company is long gone. Things have changed since the 1970s. To take so many immigrants who can't speak English dooms many to crappy jobs, living more intensely in their ethnic enclaves, and not assimilating.

Now they can maintain their language through the internet and flying back home when it suits them. You couldn't do this until the latter part of the 20th century. The world has changed, so our ideas on immigration have to change also.
 

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